Grab Thailand urges government assistance after Land Transport Department cancels service of private motorcyclists

[snoop1130]

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Grab Thailand is concerned about the effect on hundreds of thousands of GrabBike drivers and customers after the Department of Land Transport (DLT) has ordered the service cancelation of white license plate GrabBike riders as motorcycle taxi drivers.

 

Worachat Luxkanalode, Executive Director of Grab Thailand, told the Press that the company had sent out a notification of the latest announcement from the Department of Land Transport which only allows GrabBike motorcycle taxi drivers with yellow licenses plates (public transport licenses) to provide delivery and transport services. They are only allowed to accept customers and distances in the area registered with the Department of Land Transport and must charge the same fare rates as public motorcycle taxi drivers.

 

The company must remove their partners/drivers with personal vehicles or white license plates from the system within 30 days, starting June 16th. They can only be allowed to provide the services until July 15th, 2022, according to the notification.

 

Full Story: https://thepattayanews.com/2022/06/22/grab-thailand-urges-government-assistance-after-land-transport-department-cancels-service-of-private-motorcyclists/

 

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[trainman34014]

Someone at the Department is looking for a big handout to get them back on the road !

[pixelaoffy]

Another typical Thai BS to get more money from Grab.  Thai Gov has no interest in Grab motorbike riders earning a living. No Democracy in the land of Corruption and selfishness 

[BKKTRAVELER]

3 hours ago, pixelaoffy said:

Another typical Thai BS to get more money from Grab.  Thai Gov has no interest in Grab motorbike riders earning a living. No Democracy in the land of Corruption and selfishness 

Possibily, wonder why they only target Grab and not others (or did they?). It would be inconsistent.

 

Is it a tax issue? Lobbying? 

 

Will affect many people indeed. Looking forward to the development, if we even get one.

[patman30]

4 hours ago, pixelaoffy said:

Another typical Thai BS to get more money from Grab.  Thai Gov has no interest in Grab motorbike riders earning a living. No Democracy in the land of Corruption and selfishness 

i look at this the other way around, Grab the company does not care about the drivers
they pay them a pittance per delivery (barely enough for 1 person to survive on)
while taking 25% of the order

many motorbike taxis used to do deliveries from many places
and now these registered taxis also have less demand from regular fares

the end customer only thinks about their own pocket without looking at it from a different view
or understanding how things actually work

Grab just do not want to increase delivery fees, as customers may complain
 

[ukrules]

Surely this will affect everyone everywhere who does any kind of delivery with a 'white plate' and if taken to its logical conclusion there's no reason why it should only be applied to motorcycles.

 

I suspect this just destroyed commerce across the country.

 

How many weeks before they backtrack or 'clarify' on this? Not many I suspect....

 

Someone at the DLT will be fired very soon.

Edited June 22, 2022 by ukrules

[Gottfrid]

This is simple, and I am pretty sure it do not only regard Grab. Just that they are the only ones protesting. However, it has always been needed to have another class of driver license for taxi according to law. Both for motorcycle and car. Now they wish to enforce the law. Ok, then, the only thing they need to do is go make a test and upgrade their license. But, they see it more fit to be lazy and complain when DLT just do their job.

[pixelaoffy]

4 hours ago, patman30 said:

i look at this the other way around, Grab the company does not care about the drivers
they pay them a pittance per delivery (barely enough for 1 person to survive on)
while taking 25% of the order

many motorbike taxis used to do deliveries from many places
and now these registered taxis also have less demand from regular fares

the end customer only thinks about their own pocket without looking at it from a different view
or understanding how things actually work

Grab just do not want to increase delivery fees, as customers may complain
 

Nonsense ! They are going to get nothing under gov plan. Unemployed 

[Deli]

Taxi cartel seeks protection. Again.

[redwood1]

and must charge the same fare rates as public motorcycle taxi drivers.

 

Hello.....Well this will mean 40-60-80 baht per delivery for the customers.... Which in turn will kill Grabs business........Who will pay 60 baht plus tip on a 130 baht order....Not me... 

[IAMHERE]

7 hours ago, BKKTRAVELER said:

Possibily, wonder why they only target Grab and not others (or did they?). It would be inconsistent.

 

Is it a tax issue? Lobbying? 

 

Will affect many people indeed. Looking forward to the development, if we even get one.

Baby steps, get Grab to fall in line and the others will tumble in.

[wombat]

Madness personified 

[Andycoops]

Complete Thai nonsense yet again.

I get white plate delivery drivers arriving at my house all the time, as some of the delivery companies sub out the work to locals for online orders from Lazada etc.

No consistency from the Muppets in charge, just arbitrary what shall we do today mumbo jumbo.

 

[thailand49]

Once the money starts to come in they will forget just like enforcing crosswalk and a whole list of other stuff! 

[Baron Samedi]

What do people working for Grab as bikers think about the company?

Are they satisfied with the amount of money they're able to make?

Just curious...

[Peterphuket]

GRAB Thailand is concerned.

 

Well, believe me Grab, I'll be concerned about Grab with all the stupid motorbike drivers who driving like idiots.

[actonion]

Another law that will be swept under the carpet 

[herfiehandbag]

7 hours ago, BKKTRAVELER said:

Possibily, wonder why they only target Grab and not others (or did they?). It would be inconsistent.

 

Is it a tax issue? Lobbying? 

 

Will affect many people indeed. Looking forward to the development, if we even get one.

The Motorcycle Taxi lobbying group came up with a better offer.

Edited June 23, 2022 by herfiehandbag

[Ralf001]

7 hours ago, patman30 said:

i look at this the other way around, Grab the company does not care about the drivers
they pay them a pittance per delivery (barely enough for 1 person to survive on)
while taking 25% of the order

many motorbike taxis used to do deliveries from many places
and now these registered taxis also have less demand from regular fares

the end customer only thinks about their own pocket without looking at it from a different view
or understanding how things actually work

Grab just do not want to increase delivery fees, as customers may complain
 

Delivery person gets 50 to 60 baht per delivery according to the GRAB website.

Hardly a pittance, At 10 delivery's per day 5 days a week they are earning 12k a month.

Many work 7 days and I assume do more than 10 deliveries a day.

 

[tomazbodner]

19 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Delivery person gets 50 to 60 baht per delivery according to the GRAB website.

Hardly a pittance, At 10 delivery's per day 5 days a week they are earning 12k a month.

Many work 7 days and I assume do more than 10 deliveries a day.

 

Most of the time, 12-15 baht is added to my deliveries from about 2-3 km around my place. Previously, with other services, standard delivery fee was 50 baht. It makes very little sense to order 50 baht dish with 50 baht delivery fee for most Thais. So in my opinion the number of deliveries will drop, and the restaurants, who benefited from not only serving local walk-ins, will get significantly impacted by loss of clientele since their coverage area will decrease significantly. Maybe good news for 7-11, but surely not for drivers, food shops nor end-customers.

 

And Ralf, with cost of gasoline (and you can't convert it to run on gas), 12k a month is a pittance, for a very dangerous gamble of being on Thai roads... on a motorbike... from dawn to dusk. I can nearly guarantee you wouldn't last a month doing it.

[moe666]

4 hours ago, ukrules said:

Surely this will affect everyone everywhere who does any kind of delivery with a 'white plate' and if taken to its logical conclusion there's no reason why it should only be applied to motorcycles.

 

I suspect this just destroyed commerce across the country.

 

How many weeks before they backtrack or 'clarify' on this? Not many I suspect....

 

Someone at the DLT will be fired very soon.

Hopefully this will slow these people down, these drivers are a hazard on the road with there high speed and dangerous passing. 

[austhai]

4 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

This is simple, and I am pretty sure it do not only regard Grab. Just that they are the only ones protesting. However, it has always been needed to have another class of driver license for taxi according to law. Both for motorcycle and car. Now they wish to enforce the law. Ok, then, the only thing they need to do is go make a test and upgrade their license. But, they see it more fit to be lazy and complain when DLT just do their job.

In Pattaya there would be only like 1 in 50 bike taxi with the yellow plate, these should be made to upgrade & should have a higher insurance rating to cover passengers for when they fall.

[tomazbodner]

24 minutes ago, moe666 said:

5 hours ago, ukrules said:

Surely this will affect everyone everywhere who does any kind of delivery with a 'white plate' and if taken to its logical conclusion there's no reason why it should only be applied to motorcycles.

 

I suspect this just destroyed commerce across the country.

 

How many weeks before they backtrack or 'clarify' on this? Not many I suspect....

 

Someone at the DLT will be fired very soon.

Hopefully this will slow these people down, these drivers are a hazard on the road with there high speed and dangerous passing. 

@ukrules Yellow plates are not just for motorbikes but for every public transport (buses, vans, taxis, motorbikes).

 

The change of plate colour doesn't automatically mean that they would change their driving style for the better, more likely to the worse. As they'd be paying more than when using white plates, it's far more likely they'll try to drive even faster to make as much as possible each day, making them even more dangerous.

[koele2]

All govt decisions are made based on how much money the top guy can skim so that he can show off all the money he has and gain face among his corrupt peers.

[pixelaoffy]

2 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

Delivery person gets 50 to 60 baht per delivery according to the GRAB website.

Hardly a pittance, At 10 delivery's per day 5 days a week they are earning 12k a month.

Many work 7 days and I assume do more than 10 deliveries a day.

 

Driver told me can make 17 -20 k amonth if work every day 

[Howiehotspur]

2 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

Delivery person gets 50 to 60 baht per delivery according to the GRAB website.

Hardly a pittance, At 10 delivery's per day 5 days a week they are earning 12k a month.

Many work 7 days and I assume do more than 10 deliveries a day.

 

Plus Tips , I tip 100 bht everytime.. unless they are terribly late , but they still get 20 out of me . 

[smedly]

silly nonsence

[hotchilli]

17 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The company must remove their partners/drivers with personal vehicles or white license plates from the system within 30 days, starting June 16th. They can only be allowed to provide the services until July 15th, 2022, according to the notification.

A mad dash for riders to go get yellow plates or not many Grab riders around.

[Ralf001]

2 hours ago, tomazbodner said:

 

 

And Ralf, with cost of gasoline (and you can't convert it to run on gas), 12k a month is a pittance, for a very dangerous gamble of being on Thai roads... on a motorbike... from dawn to dusk. I can nearly guarantee you wouldn't last a month doing it.

Scooter uses 1b of fuel (@ 45b/lt) to travel 1km... (My Honda click is slightly under 1b/km).

Rider works with a 5km radius... so a 60b delivery fuel cost is less than 10%.

 

Fuel cost to earn 12k is 1000b.

 

Still not seeing the downside even moreso my numbers are based on 10 deliveries per day for 5 days....

16 deliveries per day 7 days a week is 30k a month (fuel cost B2400).

 

[Sydebolle]

Yet another government executive fiddling around in the private industry. Never heard of such BS, in a civilized country there would never be such an issue; assuming that white plated bikes are, like cars, taxed and insured. 

Just some pr1cks on a self-profiling ego trip on the world-famous Thai-governmental merry-go-round