I'm not tipping anymore I don't give a

[TravelerEastWest]

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

Of course I'm sure it's different in non tourist areas 

Good point!

[mvdf]

I always tip when good to excellent service is provided. And for exceptionally good service I tend to be more generous. I always get ear to ear smiles and thanks in return. Helps make my day complete. 

[spidermike007]

This guy sounds like a real winner. I get so much gratitude from a waitress for a 20 baht tip. Same with Panda. They are so happy. In the US, barely an acknowledgement for a $20 tip at a restaurant. I usually give a small tip to taxis,and they love it too. To each his own. 

 

No need to tip for laundry, take out, etc. That is being overly gratuitous. 

[Walker88]

I tip in appropriate situations, which I guess are 'appropriate' according to my personal definition.

 

For a meal? Tip.

 

In a bar? Tip my server always. If it's an agogo, buy the server a drink sometimes, too. If a woman on stage dances well---I don't mean sexy, but rather is fluid and coordinated (think Michael Jackson or JT Taylor of Kool & the Gang), and also working to make customers enjoy the night---I will discreetly slip her a folded 1000 baht note as I leave the club.

 

Taxi? If he has taken the correct route and not purposely gone out of the way, and---because there are some rides I take repeatedly and know the cost---if his meter is correctly adjusted.

 

Haircut? Always, perhaps until I go bald, which I hope is never. The woman who washes my hair also gets a tip.

 

Hotel housekeeping? Every day, under the pillow. If a long stay, the woman learns your schedule and cleans while you eat breakfast, so if one's habit is to do a little work in the room after breakfast, one is not disturbed.

 

Panda or Grab? Always. The guy faced death delivering through BKK traffic.

 

Unlike the OP, I have never had anyone moan about the size of the tip. I tip not to get thanks (though get them), but because I suspect they are underpaid and may well be struggling to make ends meet. Sure, that isn't my fault, but it isn't such a bad thing to give a fellow human a bit of a boost and recognize their efforts. I'm not a sucker, and not that fool who will soon be parted from his money. I just believe it is appropriate to reward good service or a friendly face.

Edited June 23, 2022 by Walker88

[MaiDong]

10 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

This guy sounds like a real winner. I get so much gratitude from a waitress for a 20 baht tip. Same with Panda. They are so happy. In the US, barely an acknowledgement for a $20 tip at a restaurant. I usually give a small tip to taxis,and they love it too. To each his own. 

 

No need to tip for laundry, take out, etc. That is being overly gratuitous. 

Same here, if my Lazada order is B223 and I give them B230, I get genuine appreciation, even though it's almost nothing.

 

I just hope that 10 other people do the same in one day so the boy can get himself a well deserved beer at the end of a crappy day of risking his life for bu99er all.

Edited June 23, 2022 by MaiDong

[papa al]

Don't tip sleeping cows.

Edited June 23, 2022 by papa al

[Ralf001]

Tip..... Yeah thats were I dump my garbage every Sunday.

[Tropicalevo]

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

But do expats living in tourist areas actually tip everyday for every service ?

I live in Samui and I do not tip for every service every day.

I tip hairdresser, restaurants, flower seller at the temple and the guy who delivers my booze.

Always small tips but a bonus at Christmas and Songkhran.

[Old Croc]

When I first came to Thailand I was pleasantly surprised to find people who actually put fuel in the car for me and collected the payment at my window. I didn't have to get out to operate the pump nor walk inside to pay! 

I was happy to tip 100baht each time.

Then one of these people stole from me by failing to put any fuel in when I was in a hurry, I was lucky to make it home with a near empty tank. I never tipped them again and calculated that about every tenth fill-up cost me nothing thanks to that one thief who cruelled it for all.

I still don't bother to pick up change coins at a restaurant.

[stoner]

3 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

A massage woman half way through the massage ,how much you tip me she says ?

dude that was your in.....

[whereyougo]

Listen to the OP big bwana expecting the natives to kiss his hand when leaving a tip and then comes crying here to the other big Bwana's Looking for sympathy and hugs.  Pathetic!! 

[Will B Good]

3 hours ago, 2baht said:

Here's a tip.........................................Buy low, sell high!

Damn......somehow knew I'd got that arße about face.

[spidermike007]

1 hour ago, MaiDong said:

Same here, if my Lazada order is B223 and I give them B230, I get genuine appreciation, even though it's almost nothing.

 

I just hope that 10 other people do the same in one day so the boy can get himself a well deserved beer at the end of a crappy day of risking his life for bu99er all.

10 or 15 baht can be a big deal for a Panda delivery guy, who is making 9 baht per delivery. In the US it is about $12 in delivery fees alone. Why not help out a hard working chap? What does that 10 baht mean to us? 

 

There is also a loftier component here. By showing even minor generosity, and decency, we keep the heart open and that keeps us feeling better and being more useful to our community. 

[MrJ2U]

Sounds like your having a terrible holiday.

 

Tipping for good service is standard practice.  

 

Leave the tip,  and feel good for helping these workers support themselves and thier families. 

 

Don't expect accolades for doing it. 

Edited June 23, 2022 by MrJ2U

[mikeymike100]

3 hours ago, Olmate said:

Never been to the US? 

To be fair, yes in the US tips are expected for waitresses in restaurants, bars etc, but the service is generally pretty good in my experience

Have you ever been to the UK?

[ColeBOzbourne]

When I tip at a restaurant I never hear a 'thank you' because I leave the money on the table as I walk out the door. They find it after I'm already gone. Some people can't do that because it denies them the glory of basking in their own generosity.

[bkk6060]

I tip, but I think some Thais depends on the circumstances may think it is degrading or cheap.  Especially, leaving 10 or 20 b usually get no acknowledgement back.

Funny though, got gas in my motorbike yesterday some young kid pumps it and I give him 20 b tip.  He was so excited, smiling he ran yelling and waved the 20 b in the air showing all his coworkers.  Made his day I guess.

[Baron Samedi]

4 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

The last few days being new in town for my holiday I have stupidity tipped,worked out last few days around 5k.

As far as I know Thais don't tip.

You just don't do that in here.

They might round up the bill amount but that's it.

Restaurants usually charge you 10% for the service.

You can throw in an additional 50 to 100THB for good measure.

 

This is how I do it:

 

- Taxis >> round up

- Bars and local restaurants >> 20THB + annoying coins

- Western-style restaurants >> 100THB

- Massage girls >> 100THB

 

I don't really care about how they treat me.

Thais can be pretty weird sometimes.

I don't judge.

Also I don't like to give any tip directly.

I leave it on the table or something you know.

 

Anyway. I hope you'll have a better run of things in the future OP ????

 

 

[1FinickyOne]

1 hour ago, stoner said:

4 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

A massage woman half way through the massage ,how much you tip me she says ?

dude that was your in....

I am sure he must have known that... it wasn't a tip though the word might have been used by the masseuse, it was a re-negotiation of a service contract... how else do you get to 5,000 baht? an experienced masseuse will have radar letting them know who might be named Charlie... the masseuse wants to make sure there is a proper agreement in place... 

[BritManToo]

3 hours ago, Iamfalang said:

Thai people are poorer than falang, so help them if you can. 

I know lots of Thai people with more money than me.

I never tip anyone for anything (excluding ladies that provide extra services).

 

State your price, and I'll decide if I want the product/service or not.

If you want more, ask for more right at the start.

If you're an employee who feels you don't get paid enough, look for another job.

Edited June 23, 2022 by BritManToo

[1FinickyOne]

2 minutes ago, Baron Samedi said:

Thais can be pretty weird sometimes.

Thankfully farang aren't ever weird...

 

oh, can I give you examples!!

 

Especially farang who are particularly cheap and don't know the local language and customs and expect everything to be the same as back home and don't have the power to understand that there are cultural differences. 

[sipi]

3 hours ago, CharlieH said:

I had a job done recently by an Electrical guy, he drove 20km to me, spent 3 hrs sorting out a problem, 45minutes of that in the roof space with 36 deg heat so lord knows what it was like up in that space. When it was all finished, the electrical issiue fixed , he asked for 400 baht ! I gave him double !

I wouldnt have even come out that distance for 400 let alone what he did altogether. So yeah, that boy got a good tip ! Amazing service and VALUE in my book.

Imagine what the cost wouldve been in the West.

 

Generally out and about, no I dont tip unless its not bothering with "shrapnel" with change, and I dont regard that as a tip, more a convenience for me as I hate coins.

 

Yeah I pay what they're worth. I've tipped taxi drivers double, and just one or two times I've flipped a tuk tuk driver a half fare and done a runner.

One sod in Nong Khai, I said to the misses "you distract him and I'll cut his ignition wire", but she wouldn't be in it.

[itsari]

1 minute ago, sipi said:

Yeah I pay what they're worth. I've tipped taxi drivers double, and just one or two times I've flipped a tuk tuk driver a half fare and done a runner.

One sod in Nong Khai, I said to the misses "you distract him and I'll cut his ignition wire", but she wouldn't be in it.

Oh what a rascal you are .

[BritManToo]

26 minutes ago, 1FinickyOne said:

Especially farang who are particularly cheap and don't know the local language and customs and expect everything to be the same as back home and don't have the power to understand that there are cultural differences. 

Says a 2 week millionaire.

Calling people 'cheap' is an indefensible position, the price advertised is the only price anyone needs to pay. If you want to pay more than the advertised price, I'll call that 'stupid'.

Edited June 23, 2022 by BritManToo

[KhunLA]

22 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I know lots of Thai people with more money than me.

Most Thai people I 'know' have more money than me .... rich basstards ????

[itsari]

Thailand has not a tipping culture as in the United States for example . The waiters  depend on tips to make a livable wage in the US . 

I have stopped having a beer at a local foreigners bar on this issue of tipping . 

I like to buy a beer as I order them and then the guy serving would throw a plate under my nose with the change . If I never left any change I was often accused of being a cheap charlie .

I asked the guy to forget the tray when i order a beer , That fell on deaf ears .

Now I forget to go there and have a beer in a Thai bar that is far cheaper and no tray thrust at me . 

Yes I do tip the bar person often at the Thai bar . Mostly received reluctantly , so i say now its for the ice .

[Lacessit]

I tip according to circumstances. I am acutely aware there are some Thais who only have one-third or one-quarter of the income they used to have pre-COVID.

I won't tip if the service is perfunctory. As I have developed a network of services I know are reliable, I always tip them.

I trust the OP feels better now.

[Baron Samedi]

48 minutes ago, 1FinickyOne said:

Thankfully farang aren't ever weird...

Never said that.

[1FinickyOne]

36 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Says a 2 week millionaire.

Calling people 'cheap' is an indefensible position, the price advertised is the only price anyone needs to pay. If you want to pay more than the advertised price, I'll call that 'stupid'.

Sure, there are no cheap farang who come here... my mistake? But, I don't think that ladies in massage shops advertise prices for special services. And I would bet that any w/experience have a pretty good idea who might be cheap. 

 

A masseuse once told me of a young man who wanted special services, then after, dashed out of the shop w/o even paying for the massage... but you are saying calling him cheap is indefensible - I am saying he was cheap... 

 

2 week millionaire? Really? Is that what you are calling me? 

 

 

[1FinickyOne]

8 minutes ago, Baron Samedi said:

Never said that.

But maybe you should have as your post accusing Thai did seem to exclude others... and I find Thai far less weird than most farang...