U.S. Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade, ending 50 years of federal abortion rights

[onthedarkside]

 

 

The Supreme Court in a 6-3 decision on Friday overturned Roe v. Wade, the landmark ruling that established the constitutional right to abortion in the U.S. in 1973.

 

The court’s controversial but expected ruling gives individual states the power to set their own abortion laws without concern of running afoul of Roe, which had permitted abortions during the first two trimesters of pregnancy.

 

Almost half the states are expected to outlaw or severely restrict abortion as a result of the Supreme Court’s decision, which is related to a highly restrictive new Mississippi abortion law.

 

Other states plan to maintain more liberal rules governing the termination of pregnancies.

 

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https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/24/roe-v-wade-overturned-by-supreme-court-ending-federal-abortion-rights.html

 

 

[Iamfalang]

I'm a guy, I don't think I have a say in these matters.  

 

If I was a woman, it would be my choice.   

 

sad day for women. 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

Outrageous, this will lead to back street abortions and women coming of age today will have less rights then their mothers or grandmothers had. What with the wild west gun laws this has put the US back years.

[onthedarkside]

Here are the states set to ban or severely limit abortion access now that Roe v. Wade is overturned

• The overturning of Roe v. Wade is set to almost immediately remake how access to abortion looks in America.
• Twenty-two states had laws or constitutional amendments that were already in place which could be quickly used to try to ban abortion.
• The laws include bans on abortion that were already in place in a number of states before the Supreme Court’s 1973 decision in Roe protected abortion rights.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/24/states-set-to-ban-abortion-after-supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-wade.html

 

 

 

[ozimoron]

It's going to be a vote loser for the right, as is the NY gun ruling.

 

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/06/13/about-six-in-ten-americans-say-abortion-should-be-legal-in-all-or-most-cases-2/

[Jingthing]

Passed by a supreme court with little legitimacy as two of those far right wing justices were unfairly installed.

[jak2002003]

This is shocking!  

 

It's getting like a strict Muslim dictatorship now!

 

What will be next, ban gays, alcohol, sex outside marriage?!  America seems to really be regressing.

[Jingthing]

Its ironic that macho and Catholic Latin America is becoming more progressive on abortion rights and gay rights and the USA is quickly moving BACKWARDS.

[Atlantis]

7 minutes ago, Iamfalang said:

I'm a guy, I don't think I have a say in these matters.  

 

If I was a woman, it would be my choice.   

 

sad day for women. 

 

 

And what about the millions of little women (a.k.a. girls, now commonly a.k.a. "womb-carriers") who would have loved to LIVE.

[gargamon]

Get out the coat hangers...

 

Coming up soon: ban on gay marriage, lbgtq rights, etc.

[Atlantis]

32 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Outrageous, this will lead to back street abortions and women coming of age today will have less rights then their mothers or grandmothers had. What with the wild west gun laws this has put the US back years.

What an egregious claim - and highly predictable talking point.

The US still has unrestricted internal movement. It is still a country, made up of states. In the very small number of cases that "poor" women are so poor that they cannot afford to travel to a state like New Jersey (that still allows late 3rd trimester abortions), you can bet an unborn child's life on an outside pro-abortion organization coming in to finance the trip - and a TON of media coverage to boot.

 

 

Edited June 24, 2022 by Atlantis
*mistype

[Atlantis]

1 hour ago, gargamon said:

Get out the coat hangers...

 

Coming up soon: ban on gay marriage, lbgtq rights, etc.

Try and actually understand what Roe vs Wade actually is first before claiming any future "bans" unrelated to the non-existent constitutional right to end human life.

[proton]

11 minutes ago, Iamfalang said:

I'm a guy, I don't think I have a say in these matters.  

 

If I was a woman, it would be my choice.   

 

sad day for women. 

 

 

The choice is having sex with no contraception, nobody should have the choice to kill a child because they could not be bothered to

[Bkk Brian]

Justice Thomas says the Supreme Court should reconsider rulings that protect access to contraception and same-sex marriage as the court overturns Roe v. Wade

 

In a concurring opinion with the Supreme Court's Friday ruling to overturn the precedent set in Roe v. Wade, Justice Clarence Thomas said the court should reconsider rulings that protect access to contraception, same-sex relationships, and same-sex marriage.

The Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade on Friday, with Justice Samuel Alito penning an opinion in favor of Mississippi in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health. 

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/justice-thomas-said-the-court-should-reconsider-rulings-on-same-sex-marriage-2022-6

[ozimoron]

3 minutes ago, Atlantis said:

And what about the millions of little women (a.k.a. girls, now commonly a.k.a. "womb-carriers") who would have loved to LIVE.

Including those born as a result of rape or incest?

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, proton said:

The choice is having sex with no contraception, nobody should have the choice to kill a child because they could not be bothered to

If they were raped?

[Jingthing]

Just now, Atlantis said:

What an egregious claim - and highly predictable talking about.

The US still unrestricted internal movement. It is still a country, made up of states. In the very small number of cases that "poor" women are so poor that they cannot afford to travel to a state like New Jersey (that still allows late 3rd trimester abortions), you can bet an unborn child's life on an outside pro-abortion organization coming in to finance the trip - and a TON of media coverage to boot.

 

 

Many or most poor women won't be able to travel.

Richer women including the hypocrite republicans that brought this tragedy about will indeed be able to still get abortions.

This is a direct attack on poor people.

Truly dystopian.

[Atlantis]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

Including those born as a result of rape or incest?

 Does your question imply that you would be okay with a total ban on abortion if only the exception for rape and incest is made?!

No I didn't think so.
 

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, Atlantis said:

Try and actually understand what Roe vs Wade actually is first before claiming any future "bans" unrelated to the non-existent constitutional right to end human life.

Justice Thomas said he encourages revisiting the gay marriage cases.

The fascists are on a roll.

[ozimoron]

1 hour ago, Atlantis said:

 Does your question imply that you would be okay with a total ban on abortion if only the exception for rape and incest is made?!

No I didn't think so.
 

 What's debunked about not allowing raped women to seek an abortion?

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, Atlantis said:

Those "far right" justices were as qualified as the most recent nominee who had so much spine that she couldn't even bring herself to give the objective commonsense definition of what a woman is (which is highly relevant to the US constitution).

Those two seats were obtained by dirty trickery and you know it.

[Atlantis]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Many or most poor women won't be able to travel.

Richer women including the hypocrite republicans that brought this tragedy about will indeed be able to still get abortions.

This is a direct attack on poor people.

Truly dystopian.

If some nutcase legislators in red states want to pass and keep truly draconian laws, they will suffer for it in due time. Yes it might take time. Like the very long time that passed since the stupid Roe V Wade ruling was unexpectedly made. American states would have had decades to "get it right" and evolve their laws according to changing cultural norms.

"Poor women" can, and will, still get abortions. Including sickening late-term abortions in a bunch of blue states.

[ozimoron]

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas on Friday called for overturning the constitutional rights the court had affirmed for access to contraceptives and LGBTQ rights in an opinion concurring with the majority to decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.

 

In his separate opinion, Thomas acknowledged that Friday’s decision does not directly affect any rights besides abortion. But he argued that the constitution’s Due Process Clause does not secure a right to an abortion or any other substantive rights, and he urged the court to apply that reasoning to other landmark cases.

 

Thomas wrote, “In future cases, we should reconsider all of this Court’s substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell.”

 

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/3535841-thomas-calls-for-overturning-precedents-on-contraceptives-lgbtq-rights/

[Jingthing]

Again many poor women won't be able to afford the travel. FACT.

A very common reason for wanting an abortion is being too poor to raise the child.

FACT

So many poor women will be forced to go through pregnancies they don't want or to seek medically unsafe at home remedies.

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, Atlantis said:

 

It takes away civil rights women have had for many decades.

[ozimoron]

And poor single women will be consigned to a life of poverty raising a child as a single mom and unable to afford child care so they can work.

[ozimoron]

1 hour ago, Atlantis said:

 

you don't care about preserving stare decisis?

[Atlantis]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

It's not deflection. I wanted to know whether your opposition to abortion was absolute. Now, you have made it clear that you at least in part disagree with the court ruling which fails to enshrine the right to abortion under those circumstances.

You knew what my position is when I called you out for your extreme position on terminating a pregnancy a day prior to the due date - on the Gay People in Thailand Thread before the World News Forum was reactivated.

People can have a range of personal views on abortion rights and still be informed enough to know that all the fault lies with the initial ruling that was based on a load of nothing.
 

[Jingthing]

23 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

This is shocking!  

 

It's getting like a strict Muslim dictatorship now!

 

What will be next, ban gays, alcohol, sex outside marriage?!  America seems to really be regressing.

It really is and quickly.

But there are two Americas now.

Can they live together?

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, Atlantis said:

You knew what my position is when I called you out for your extreme position on terminating a pregnancy a day prior to the due date - on the Gay People in Thailand Thread before the World News Forum was reactivated.

People can have a range of personal views on abortion rights and still be informed enough to know that all the fault lies with the initial ruling that was based on a load of nothing.
 

Not everyone 555