No Problems from Cannabis Legalization: Health Minister

[snoop1130]

 

BANGKOK, Aug 17 (TNA) – Cannabis has not posed a problem as feared by many parties while its market value has reached 28 billion baht, according to Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul.

 

Mr Anutin said in the “Meet the Press: Cannabis” event at Miracle Hotel that since cannabis was decriminalized for medical use, it has not caused any negative social impact as many parties were concerned.

 

Hospitals reported 60 people suffered from the acute side effects of cannabis over the past two months (from June 6 to Aug 16).

 

Full Story: https://tna.mcot.net/english-news-999758

 

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[bobbin]

Anutin for President!!

 

Oh, wait..

 

Prime Minister!!

[The Hammer2021]

Whatever problems there might be will be far less than than laws that criminalise people and lock them up. The problems will be outweighed by the benefits.

[JingerBen]

No surprises here.

Hasn't this been the positive outcome wherever it has been legalized?

Are there any exceptions - cases where countries have banned it after having legalized it?

[The Hammer2021]

10 minutes ago, JingerBen said:

No surprises here.

Hasn't this been the positive outcome wherever it has been legalized?

Are there any exceptions - cases where countries have banned it after having legalized it?

Holland  messed up and walked  back and reversed some measures due to the growth of narcotic dealing and use and big street gangs  growth but its a complex  problem that Thailand  won't have.

[JingerBen]

2 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Holland  messed up and walked  back and reversed some measures due to the growth of narcotic dealing and use and big street gangs  growth but its a complex  problem that Thailand  won't have.

Yes, I had heard something about that, but they haven't done a complete U-turn and gone back to total prohibition.

   Not yet, anyway.

[findlay13]

No problems A.K.A. "Show me the money"

Edited August 17, 2022 by findlay13

[austhai]

12 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Whatever problems there might be will be far less than than laws that criminalise people and lock them up. The problems will be outweighed by the benefits.

Outweighed by his personal benefits.. ????

[thailand49]

Even if he is wrong this guy not in his DNA to admit wrong. ????

[Songlaw]

Most things in life have to be recognized as having equal ramifications  negative and positive. As a society and as individuals, we have to constantly analyze whether the positives are such that they  outweigh the negatives and, barring that, can we live with or mitigate  the negatives, which will always be with us in one form or another anyway? In this case, sons, fathers, daughters and mothers  have been  allowed to return to their families and loved ones, industries and tax bases have been either instantly created or enhanced (tourism being a major beneficiary), and for those who prefer not to dissolve their livers and kidneys while anesthetizing their life-induced trepidations now finally have a viable and arguably preferable alternative to lao kao. And, as a poster on one of these threads once pointed out, fun, to some degree, has consequently returned to Thailand - if by no other means than the lessening of the dread that stems from the draconian pall that has permeated this society for far, far too long. May the pendulum not be impeded in its efforts to correct the misguided and undeserved policies of the past, and may we continue with the hope that dominoes will continue to fall. If the goal was ever to bury Thaksin’s legacy by way of comparing and contrasting then with now, the powers that be could not have stumbled and blundered their way into a more fortuitous shift in circumstances. I think we can agree that the past 15 or 20 years have been a mixed bag in most respects. Let’s hope this portends of trends that will result in a less insidious reality for everyone. A guy can dream, right? I, for one, have tired of the darkness. Imagine what it’s been like for the generations of Thai who have never known any other way? Thank Dog the tide finally shows concrete signs of having shifted. It ain’t over by any means, but it’s a start. 

Edited August 18, 2022 by Songlaw

[khunpeer]

11 hours ago, JingerBen said:

Yes, I had heard something about that, but they haven't done a complete U-turn and gone back to total prohibition.

   Not yet, anyway.

they certainly did not walk back and a Uturn won't happen... it's well integrated in dutch society, can buy herb in coffeeshops all over the country, even products made from ganja are widely available and sold. here in Tland the plant is legal now, even the buds, but products of it can not contain thc over 0.02%.

overall it seems better to legalize it so quality-control can guarantee good outcome! ????

[JBChiangRai]

If the law is followed, cannabis with 0.2% THC won’t cause a problem. Unfortunately, it’s not being followed and THC content nearer 100 times that is being sold.

 

In higher concentrations (enough to give a high) it can cause mental illness in a significant proportion of people and affects brain development in most young and still developing brains.

 

I am not sharing an opinion, I am stating medical fact.

 

Thailand is ill prepared for mental illness.

[Photoguy21]

12 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Holland  messed up and walked  back and reversed some measures due to the growth of narcotic dealing and use and big street gangs  growth but its a complex  problem that Thailand  won't have.

It is a pity people here, yourself excepted, can not understand that people will get high on it then go out and drive a car or motor cycle possible causing chaos on the roads. Some say they wont do that but how many people drive here under the influence of YaBa? A lot I would guess. Cannabis will be no different.

[lujanit]

21 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

If the law is followed, cannabis with 0.2% THC won’t cause a problem. Unfortunately, it’s not being followed and THC content nearer 100 times that is being sold.

I think you have that wrong.  The law is that extracts (to make edibles etc) must not contain more than 0.2% THC.  So it is perfectly legal to sell weed with a much higher THC content.

Edited August 18, 2022 by lujanit

[sungod]

21 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

If the law is followed, cannabis with 0.2% THC won’t cause a problem. Unfortunately, it’s not being followed and THC content nearer 100 times that is being sold.

 

In higher concentrations (enough to give a high) it can cause mental illness in a significant proportion of people and affects brain development in most young and still developing brains.

 

I am not sharing an opinion, I am stating medical fact.

 

Thailand is ill prepared for mental illness.

Do you enjoy a drink occasionally?

[FolkGuitar]

16 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

In higher concentrations (enough to give a high) it can cause mental illness in a significant proportion of people and affects brain development in most young and still developing brains.

 

I am not sharing an opinion, I am stating medical fact.

 

Proper peer-reviewed citations, please, to substantiate your statement.

 

Otherwise, all you are sharing is your own personal thoughts backed up by internet  "conclusion shopping," that parrot back your own beliefs.

[KannikaP]

29 minutes ago, khunpeer said:

they certainly did not walk back and a Uturn won't happen... it's well integrated in dutch society, can buy herb in coffeeshops all over the country, even products made from ganja are widely available and sold. here in Tland the plant is legal now, even the buds, but products of it can not contain thc over 0.02%.

overall it seems better to legalize it so quality-control can guarantee good outcome! ????

0.02% or 0.2% ?

[chalawaan]

13 hours ago, JingerBen said:

No surprises here.

Hasn't this been the positive outcome wherever it has been legalized?

Are there any exceptions - cases where countries have banned it after having legalized it?

NZ were given a referendum. 

The only country in the world so far, who narrowly voted NOT to legalize it.

They have an incredible craft beer, and also world class wine reputation, so it's a real mystery why they would pass up all the well-researched benefits, by a slim  majority. 

 

That's democracy tho. 

 

I haven't used since I've been back in NZ, but have seen people do so in public. 

Most jobs also claim they randomly drug test in a "lottery" system. While I agree that adults should use with responsibility, I think this goes too far, and much more impairment reasearch needed vs alcohol, which is well understood. 

 

 

I also hear weed now costs MORE than a comparative amount of Meth in NZ! But I don't know how true that claim is either. 

 

The wonderful craft beer here  costs slightly MORE than imported craft beer does when bought from a bar in Chiang Mai, in  Thailand, I know that's very hard to believe, but this is the crazy downside to a population of just 5 million (BKK alone has at least DOUBLE that!) and NZ stuffers a net greater OUTFLOW of citizens every year.

 

Despite its' reputation as a paradise on earth.

 

Now I think I know why!

Edited August 18, 2022 by chalawaan

[Serhii]

51 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

people will get high on it then go out and drive a car or motor cycle possible causing chaos on the roads

By "chaos on the roads" do you mean everyone driving 40 km/h? Going faster being stoned feels too fast.

[Smithson]

13 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Holland  messed up and walked  back and reversed some measures due to the growth of narcotic dealing and use and big street gangs  growth but its a complex  problem that Thailand  won't have.

Also because they didn't fully legalize due to pressure from others in Europe, at least that's what I read. It gave crooks a great opportunity, when the govt could have been collecting tax.

[fabruer]

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

If the law is followed, cannabis with 0.2% THC won’t cause a problem. Unfortunately, it’s not being followed and THC content nearer 100 times that is being sold.

 

In higher concentrations (enough to give a high) it can cause mental illness in a significant proportion of people and affects brain development in most young and still developing brains.

 

I am not sharing an opinion, I am stating medical fact.

 

Thailand is ill prepared for mental illness.

You are sharing an opinion since your facts are wrong.

It starts with the THC content which is an uninformed opinion of yourself and not reality based.

[FolkGuitar]

2 minutes ago, Serhii said:

By "chaos on the roads" do you mean everyone driving 40 km/h? Going faster being stoned feels too fast.

People are starting to wait for blinking red lights to turn green...

 

[sammieuk1]

The pot baron is making a stonking profit so all is well ????

[Excel]

5 minutes ago, FolkGuitar said:

People are starting to wait for blinking red lights to turn green...

 

really ? ????

[sometimewoodworker]

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

In higher concentrations (enough to give a high) it can cause mental illness in a significant proportion of people and affects brain development in most young and still developing brains.

 

I am not sharing an opinion, I am stating medical fact.

 

Lets take the statements one by one

Quote

In higher concentrations it can cause mental illness

That by itself is undoubtedly true. However virtually every psychoactive in high enough concentration can cause mental illness, but it is often temporary.

 

Quote

it can cause mental illness in a significant proportion of people

What is a significant proportion of people? 0.001%, 0.1%, 10%, 90%?

making unfounded claims then basing your actions on those claims shows that you want to be a political person.

Please provide peer reviewed papers supporting you claim or admit that it is a fabricated one.

Quote

affects brain development in most young and still developing brains.

Completely correct, virtually everything affects brain development in most young and still developing brains.

 

If things did not affect brain development there could be no learning. So affecting brain development is required and only people who have no understanding of this think that it’s a bad thing.

 

 

Edited August 18, 2022 by sometimewoodworker

[Photoguy21]

53 minutes ago, Serhii said:

By "chaos on the roads" do you mean everyone driving 40 km/h? Going faster being stoned feels too fast.

I mean being damn stupid like many drivers are now but they will be worse.

[Snig27]

14 hours ago, JingerBen said:

Yes, I had heard something about that, but they haven't done a complete U-turn and gone back to total prohibition.

   Not yet, anyway.

The government tried to block tourists from going to cafes but the mayor of Amsterdam overruled it locally. The biggest problems seem to have come from from outsiders and tourists. 

[freedomnow]

Anyone offer an idea on whether hashish is considered an extract or a straight compress or what ?

Previously posted on it, but this thread bit of a more live wire....

 

[Roel]

14 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Holland  messed up and walked  back and reversed some measures due to the growth of narcotic dealing and use and big street gangs  growth but its a complex  problem that Thailand  won't have.

Holland indeed implemented some stricter rules but that had nothing to do with the reasons you mention. It was forced to do so under European pressure as a compromise to more strict EU-countries.

[bobbin]

5 minutes ago, freedomnow said:

Anyone offer an idea on whether hashish is considered an extract or a straight compress or what ?

Previously posted on it, but this thread bit of a more live wire....

 

Hash is definitely not an extract. If Government wanted to differentiate I suppose they could say it's manufactured but that would be a stretch...

 

I have already bought Nepali hash twice. From 2 different shops here in Pattaya. The real deal..

 

Finally, all these Nepali tailors are useful.