9 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Great article Tanakorn Panyadee, let's make these women aware that they can report these offenders. 

 

Should be more of these women come forward and report these offenders. 

 

I also like to come forward about all the girls which touched me in that street.

Do I also get paid if I liked it?

Or do I have to pretend at least for a day that it was a horrible experience when that cute girl touched me?

 

 

8 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

No, I have never been to Pattaya and I have never been groped by anyone , let alone a ladyboy .

   Sexual assault is sexual assault and anyone who gropes another person should be arrested and charged 

Yes, of course, in certain circumstances you are right.

 

200,000 Baht for touching a tush? for 200,000 baht he could touch my tush and I would not report him! I will even go to walking street by tuk tuk!

 

18 minutes ago, BigStar said:

Less crime now than in the old days

Agree but we are no where near the number of tourists that we had in the old days, still down on numbers. 

 

17 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I also like to come forward about all the girls which touched me in that street.

Do I also get paid if I liked it?

Or do I have to pretend at least for a day that it was a horrible experience when that cute girl touched me?

 

 

I'm hearing you, it's unacceptable. 

 

Yes, these girls above have touched me inappropriately in the past, bloody repeat offenders. 

 

9 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Nope....  his nationality is irrelevant with regards to a person going out into an area well known for its 'hedonistic and wild vibe’ and being shocked when people behave poorly.

 

Perhaps it is because the guy was Indian that the lady took so much affront...  

Irrelevant perhaps, it should not have happened anyway.

 

But... how ‘severe’ was the inappropriate touch?... a slap on the backside or a full on motorboating !!!

 

200,000 baht is extortionate... But.. if it happened to my Wife...  hmmm.. Who am I kidding?, my Wife would never been seen dead in an area like that...  Why?... because this is the sort of thing that can happen. 

 

 

 

The outstanding question remains: ‘what was the inappropriate touch’  ???? 

 

What, so a woman should not be able to walk in whatever public place she wants, without the need to accept that in some places it´s ok to break the law? Is that a sound opinion?

Does it matter how severe it was, when it was unwanted? Are you saying like that because the need to protect the male race?

 

Now we all know what a good and respectable wife you have. Wonder where you met her. However, the agreement to pay 200k is very good. Maybe it will scare others that think such behavoir is ok.

3 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

In a milieu such as Walking Street at 3 AM. there is a presumption that you are there for a purpose: to either obtain or provide sexual services.

Depends on who's presuming. A monger, who assumes that all Thai women are prostitutes, would think so, as is very clear from so many replies here. Why aren't they offering B1000 to all the cashiers in Lotus's?

 

But that would be obviously wrong, besides irrelevant to the case. Now one tourist has learned to adjust his thinking, anyway, and others probably as well, as word gets around. So some of our members may need to cease their groping of well-dressed office ladies on the street now. 

 

3 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

I think the fact that the incident occurred in a venue where sexual propriety norms are often suspended ought to be taken into consideration when assessing damages and penalties.

Shockingly, it was taken into consideration. You see, after taking the venue into consideration, the police, unlike our barstool judges, determined that the laws against sexual assault aren't suspended in that venue but are in fact (cough) still applicable. No doubt they checked the GPS coordinates and found that it is part of Thailand.

 

If the perp believes the law inapplicable in that venue, he's perfectly entitled to make his case in court.

 

The demand for damages was obviously much higher than if the perpetrator had been Thai.

 

Contrast the 200K demanded in this case with the 105K per victim which the Mountain B fire victims received. Over the years I have anecdotally heard countless stories where Thais have been compensated for damages involving automobile accidents, wrongful death, bodily injury, negligence, and assaults for a fraction of the amount demanded in this case. I can also recall many far more egregious examples where foreigners have been injured under similar circumstances and it's highly doubtful that they were compensated as fully as this woman has been.

 

Not saying she didn't deserve reasonable compensation for what happened, but knowingly allowing foreign wrongdoers to be opportunistically pressured into agreeing to excessively high demands for compensation while under threat of criminal prosecution is a slippery slope, and short sighted. In today's world, word gets around quickly.

 

https://thepattayanews.com/2022/08/20/justice-minister-gives-compensation-worth-two-million-baht-to-families-of-19-deceased-victims-of-mountain-b-nightclub-fire/

 

 

1 hour ago, BigStar said:

And that's why they're bargirls. This is such a confusing problem for our poor farang--realizing that not all Thais are prostitutes, since that's all they meet.

An Indian is not a farang?

Alright lads,

 

Let's go down Walking Street and claim 200k for every time we're groped by a lady(boy).

 

Will definitely exit the street a millionaire.

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

What not 500 baht and a Wai.. or a basket of chicken delight.

200,000 baht she's laughing all the way to the bank.

So are the BIB, who probably got 50%?

6 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

An Indian is not a farang?

Nope.

 

'Farang' is only used, by Thais, to describe whites.

 

They have been saying it since they saw their first white men who were Francais.

6 minutes ago, BigStar said:

Depends on who's presuming. A monger, who assumes that all Thai women are prostitutes, would think so, as is very clear from so many replies here. Why aren't they offering B1000 to all the cashiers in Lotus's?

 

But that would be obviously wrong, besides irrelevant to the case. Now one tourist has learned to adjust his thinking, anyway, and others probably as well, as word gets around. So some of our members may need to cease their groping of well-dressed office ladies on the street now. 

 

Shockingly, it was taken into consideration. You see, after taking the venue into consideration, the police, unlike our barstool judges, determined that the laws against sexual assault aren't suspended in that venue but are in fact (cough) still applicable. No doubt they checked the GPS coordinates and found that it is part of Thailand.

 

If the perp believes the law inapplicable in that venue, he's perfectly entitled to make his case in court.

 

People keep misreading my post, and using it to tee up these chivalrous virtue-signaling comments about the sanctity of a woman's body. I didn't say the law shouldn't be applicable; it definitely should, and I have reiterated this repeatedly.

 

I just said that the venue and the sexual propriety standards of Walking Street at 3 AM should be taken into consideration when considering his punishment. Walking Street has a reputation as a sexual candy store. Both men and women sometimes get handsy with one another in this setting, and people, especially when highly inebriated and when they are first time visitors (which many tourists are), can get carried away and make errors in judgement. I think factors such as these should be considered when considering punishment. That doesn't mean I think he should be given a pass or get off scot-free; I'm just questioning whether the 200K damage demand was fair.

22 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

An Indian is not a farang?

Presumably @Reigntax is not an Indian. You may ask him, if that's an issue for you. But now that you mention it, Indians are learning as well.????

3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Please show me/us even one comment with someone writing she deserved that. I read lots of comments and I don't think anybody wrote she deserved it.

 

What lots of people wrote is that going out at night in Walking Street as a single lady has a huge risk of being touched - because that is what that street is all about. Smart ladies, who don't want to get touched, don't walk alone in that street in the middle of the night.

 

And why should it make any difference what nationality or age or whatever the guy was?

I take your point but don't concur. I have walked down the street once with my girlfriend and I wouldn't have considered I had the right to inappropriately touch any of the women. It's not a thing. 

13 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

I just said that the venue and the sexual propriety standards of Walking Street at 3 AM should be taken into consideration when considering his punishment.

And I just informed you that they were, and if the perp doesn't think so, he can take his case to court. Perhaps you can then submit an amicus curiae. Are we all clear on that FINALLY?

 

13 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

I'm just questioning whether the 200K damage demand was fair.

We got that the first time. When was that, so long ago?

 

Yeah, life ain't fair; get used to it. I've seen far, far worse . . . .

Who hasn't been groped in walking street?

 

I had 7,00 baht taken out of my pocket by some 5 year old children at 7am on walking street. Didn't report it though and was lucky enough to get my money back as some girl had seen the pickpockets ( i had no idea they had knicked my money)

8 minutes ago, BigStar said:

Presumably @Reigntax is not an Indian. You may ask him, if that's an issue for you. But now that you mention it, Indians are learning as well.????

I have no issues whatsoever just trying to keep things accurate.????

2 minutes ago, ed strong said:

Who hasn't been groped in walking street?

Addressed earlier here.

Who knows if she does this `on a regular and goes with suitable customers.

then she is not there as a civi but how can a tourist dispute police are judge and jury with a pay day

Two wrong doesn't make it right TIT

might dent a certain market

2 hours ago, possum1931 said:

When I am in Pattaya I never go down walking street even in the daytime, most of my walking about is on Beach Road and never after 10pm. I have never approached a working lady, but am approached many times and always pleasant to them. I always only carry about 2000Bt with me in a zipped pocket.

500 baht is more than enough to be entertained by a beach road girl, anything more than that is juts giving your money away for no reason. Perhaps the rest is for a tip, depending on the service?

2 minutes ago, tomyami said:

Who knows if she does this `on a regular and goes with suitable customers.

Certainly the perp didn't know. Maybe he should have, like, asked first.

4 minutes ago, BigStar said:

Addressed earlier here.

 

Umm to not be groped on walking street is probably even worse than being groped tbh.

 

I'm not a huge fan of the place however its all part of the game when you head into the sex capital of the world. Walking street in pattaya is pretty unique place, gross and hedonistic but sometimes thats exactly whats needed.

 

 

2 minutes ago, ed strong said:

head into the sex capital of the world. Walking street in pattaya is pretty unique place,

Sex Capital, World!!!!!!!!! 

 

Source? 

 

Where are you getting your information from? 

 

Probably the most expensive and shortest short-time heard of.....so far

Those groppers better be careful at the next Wet T-Shirt contest.

5 minutes ago, ed strong said:

Umm to not be groped on walking street is probably even worse than being groped tbh.

A deflection into "opinion" from a false assertion of fact.

 

7 minutes ago, ed strong said:

its all part of the game when you head into the sex capital of the world.

No, some things aren't part of the game at all. SHOCK. Sex capital of the world, LOL. So much nonsense.

44 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

I take your point but don't concur. I have walked down the street once with my girlfriend and I wouldn't have considered I had the right to inappropriately touch any of the women. It's not a thing. 

Yes, nice guys, especially if they are not drunk don't do that.

But after you walked there with your gf: If she would tell you at 2am that she wants to go alone to that place to feel the vibe, what would you tell her:

Sure, go ahead and enjoy the night?

Or maybe: Forget about that idea. 

Or, if she absolutely wants to see it: Ok, I will go with you to take care of you.

 

But most likely she would never have such a stupid idea.

1 hour ago, 2009 said:

Nope.

 

'Farang' is only used, by Thais, to describe whites.

 

They have been saying it since they saw their first white men who were Francais.

I always remember a funny moment when I was attending a Thai language school back then.. Teacher asks each student in the classroom if they are farang (conversation in Thai):

 

Teacher (asking a French guy): Are you a farang?

French guy: Yes!

Teacher (asking a Spanish guy): Are you a farang?

Spanish guy: Yes!

Teacher (asking a Burmese girl of Indian origin): Are you a farang?

Burmese girl: Yes!

Teacher: Nooo! you are not!!

 

????

 

I feel so sorry for him.

 

I'd rot in jail.

 

Extortion. Mercenary bi**h

 

I bet there are mugs who didn't pay 200k for murder