Casino's - are they coming?

[London Lowf]

On 10/10/2022 at 10:21 AM, Nemises said:

Easy to still play on a AU$5 minimum blackjack table - online!
Just need a VPN and an AU bank account. 
 

 

 

 

Have you ever punted in a real casino?

 

Comparing it to online gambling is like arguing that a PH session is as good as an hour with a real girl, or that "racing" a Formula 1 car on your laptop (or even on a Sim set-up) is as good as hooning around a real circuit.

 

[Nemises]

2 hours ago, London Lowf said:

Have you ever punted in a real casino?

 

Comparing it to online gambling is like arguing that a PH session is as good as an hour with a real girl, or that "racing" a Formula 1 car on your laptop (or even on a Sim set-up) is as good as hooning around a real circuit.

 

Thanks for asking. Yes, I have spent many years punting (on blackjack) in real casinos and putting up with obnoxious drunks, cigarette-filled public gaming areas (mainly in Asia), beginners making ridiculous decisions (e.g. hitting for a card when on 19) causing me to lose, rude players opening a new shoe without first asking others who are in the middle of a winning run ….and worst of all, having to listen to the whinging, BS and nonsense of others (like you) because all other tables are taken and you can’t move. The list goes on and on. 
 

Thank goodness for online casinos. 
 

 

 

Edited October 20, 2022 by Nemises

[London Lowf]

4 hours ago, Nemises said:

Thanks for asking. Yes, I have spent many years punting (on blackjack) in real casinos and putting up with obnoxious drunks, cigarette-filled public gaming areas (mainly in Asia), beginners making ridiculous decisions (e.g. hitting for a card when on 19) causing me to lose, rude players opening a new shoe without first asking others who are in the middle of a winning run ….and worst of all, having to listen to the whinging, BS and nonsense of others (like you) because all other tables are taken and you can’t move. The list goes on and on. 
 

Thank goodness for online casinos. 
 

 

 

I trained as a croupier (blackjack, roulette and punto banco) in London and worked there for four years before doing a similar stint in South Africa before six months on the cruise ships out of Miami, a year in Warsaw and ended up as an assistant manager in Cameroon - I can assure you that the BS does not originate from me.

 

Other players causing you to lose? Unless you are the most skillful card-counter on the planet and/or have a complete misunderstanding of the probability laws governing hard gaming then you would know that that is nonsense.

[Nemises]

2 hours ago, London Lowf said:

 

Other players causing you to lose? 

If you have 11 and a beginner/drunk/drugged/idiotic (or all of the above) player on your immediate right pulls “your” 10 on his 19 resulting in you missing out on your blackjack and if the dealer doesn’t get blackjack but beats your hand, then yes, that other player has caused you to lose that particular hand. Have seen that and similar occurrences often, always resulting in much angst and disharmony at the table, especially when the affected losing player has chipped-up to, or near, the table bet limit. 
 

So please, spare me your criticisms of my post about preferring to play blackjack online, at home. Thanks. 
 

 

 

Edited October 20, 2022 by Nemises

[London Lowf]

16 hours ago, Nemises said:

If you have 11 and a beginner/drunk/drugged/idiotic (or all of the above) player on your immediate right pulls “your” 10 on his 19 resulting in you missing out on your blackjack and if the dealer doesn’t get blackjack but beats your hand, then yes, that other player has caused you to lose that particular hand. Have seen that and similar occurrences often, always resulting in much angst and disharmony at the table, especially when the affected losing player has chipped-up to, or near, the table bet limit. 
 

So please, spare me your criticisms of my post about preferring to play blackjack online, at home. Thanks. 
 

 

 

Drawing a 10 on to your 11 is not a blackjack - I'll leave it there ????

[Nemises]

1 hour ago, London Lowf said:

Drawing a 10 on to your 11 is not a blackjack - I'll leave it there ????

No, but same result, which is: another player has caused you to lose, which was the point of the exercise after you refused to believe that it could happen. 
 

Hope that example has helped in your training. 

[jacko45k]

16 hours ago, London Lowf said:

Drawing a 10 on to your 11 is not a blackjack - I'll leave it there ????

Yes, I thought that, 2 card 21 surely is a natural or Blackjack. Not the know it all gambler he professes to be!

Edited October 21, 2022 by jacko45k

[Nemises]

5 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Yes, I thought that, 2 card 21 surely is a natural or Blackjack. Not the know it all gambler he professes to be!

As already explained, referring to the 3-card 21 as a “blackjack” was an oversight and didn’t  make any difference whatsoever in the example given to prove that other’s bad play can cause you to lose - something that the learned croupier (?) didn’t think could happen! ????
 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 22, 2022 by Nemises

[London Lowf]

I’ll give it one more try.

In the long term, what causes you to lose are the odds/laws of probability/house percentage – call it what you like.

 

How many hours of blackjack do you think that I dealt and supervised over a ten-year career? I have never once seen a player draw on a 19 – in fact I’ve never seen anyone draw on an 18 or 17 – where on earth were you playing and how often did that happen that resulted in you abandoning live punting.

I have seen (very occasionally) a player draw a card to a 15 or 16 against a dealer’s 6 (a definite no-no) and end up “saving” the entire table and gaining a round of applause as a result!

As I said above, it’s you against the house – that’s the definition of hard gaming. Although it might seem on occasion that other players are messing up (or saving!) your game, in the long run they are not and you are just looking for a scapegoat for your neutral or bad luck.

And finally,  if I was a punter, I would far rather play in a real casino with a real dealer and a real deck(s) of cards than online – a pack of cards (or roulette wheel for that matter) is random whereas an AI computer program is most definitely not.

 

[Nemises]

2 hours ago, London Lowf said:

  I would far rather play in a real casino with a real dealer and a real deck(s) of cards than online – a pack of cards (or roulette wheel for that matter) is random whereas an AI computer program is most definitely not

Live, streaming blackjack is available online. You actually see the dealer (yes, a real live person) dealing your cards.

As previously mentioned, I would rather play live, online, at home than ever again walking into the disgusting, stinking, cigarette smoke-filled gaming areas of certain casinos that I have encountered (mainly in SE Asia). 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 22, 2022 by Nemises

[London Lowf]

1 hour ago, Nemises said:

Live, streaming blackjack is available online. You actually see the dealer (yes, a real live person) dealing your cards.

I stand corrected - I assume just you and the dealer and no numpties to mess things up.

 

[London Lowf]

1 hour ago, Nemises said:

disgusting, stinking, cigarette smoke-filled gaming areas of certain casinos that I have encountered (mainly in SE Asia). 

Fair enough - I never worked in one of those, although Cameroon was close.

[Sparktrader]

On 10/2/2022 at 1:26 PM, 2009 said:

Gambling would ruin this country.

 

The men, but moreso women, here have a huge gambling problem out in Isaan.

I knew this dumb isaan woman who spent 70% her money gambling. Always broke. Aged 55. She never woke up.

[Leaver]

On 10/20/2022 at 5:46 AM, PJ71 said:

So i'm in Pattaya now am i - lol.

 

Says the person always accusing me of not being in Pattaya, which one is it?

 

I chose to live in Pattaya, mainly because of the nightlife, it's certainly not for the lousy beach.  What part of that do you not understand? 

[PJ71]

4 hours ago, Leaver said:

 

I chose to live in Pattaya, mainly because of the nightlife, it's certainly not for the lousy beach.  What part of that do you not understand? 

hahahahaha, toys out the pram - class

[Leaver]

11 hours ago, PJ71 said:

hahahahaha, toys out the pram - class

 

Says he who continually maintained cannabis will NEVER be legalized here, even after it was legalized. Talk about behind the times. ????

 

Now, it's casinos. 

 

You do provide the forum with entertainment.  ????

[PJ71]

1 hour ago, Leaver said:

 

Says he who continually maintained cannabis will NEVER be legalized here, even after it was legalized. Talk about behind the times. ????

 

Now, it's casinos. 

 

You do provide the forum with entertainment.  ????

You're beating the same drum, i've said numerous times i'm amazed how cannabis has taken off here, like many others i'm sure.

 

I'm sorry, but unlike you i do not know everything, my bad.

[Leaver]

On 10/28/2022 at 4:40 AM, PJ71 said:

i've said numerous times i'm amazed how cannabis has taken off here

 

Why would you be so amazed if / when they allow casinos?  May other countries have them, including Thailand's neighbors.

 

Edited October 30, 2022 by Leaver

[PJ71]

11 hours ago, Leaver said:

 

Why would you be so amazed if / when they allow casinos?  May other countries have them, including Thailand's neighbors.

 

Can you not read, i forget how many times i've told you why i think that.

 

Coz they've been speaking about it for the 20years + i've been in Thailand.

[Leaver]

On 10/30/2022 at 2:48 PM, PJ71 said:

Coz they've been speaking about it for the 20years +

 

So?

 

Maybe now's the time. 

 

You'll get this one wrong as well.  ????

 

You'll be saying. "They will never allow casinos in Thailand" even after the first one is open.  ????

[altayvan]

On 10/1/2022 at 9:53 PM, Leaver said:

 

This thread will probably be moved because it doesn't specify Pattaya as having a casino in the future.

 

In any case, it's not if, just when, for both Thailand in general, and Pattaya.

 

Social harm to Thai's has been cited by many as the main reason casinos will never be allowed in Thailand, however, Thailand could easily follow Vietnam's model and have locals provide proof of a minimum monthly salary in order to gain entry.  

 

On 10/3/2022 at 2:54 PM, mran66 said:

Past couple of decades have been mostly steady improvement in terms of foreign income from tourism, thus regardless of all the talk over the years about casinos, there has not been burning need to proceed from that perspective, rather more than enough work to keep infrastructure in match with tourism volumes.

 

Now, with the developments since 2020 with covid, the war, and consequent coming recession, situation is different and I also would be pretty suprprised if casinos would not come into the toolbox. Unrealistic to expect the decisionmakers to let that money to flow to neighboring countries who have the gambling places that attract asian gamblers.

 

I would guess those casinos would be for foreigners and maybe for rich thais, and local mass market gambling will stay underground as it has been to fund police and other goverment officials related to that.

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Edited March 18 by altayvan

[brewsterbudgen]

On 10/30/2022 at 9:47 AM, Leaver said:

 

Why would you be so amazed if / when they allow casinos?  May other countries have them, including Thailand's neighbors.

 

 

I think there's a strong likelihood of casinos in tourist areas soon.  But, as in Cambodia, I'm sure there'll be off limits for locals unless they work there.

[FruitPudding]

On 10/2/2022 at 10:26 AM, 2009 said:

Gambling would ruin this country.

 

The men, but moreso women, here have a huge gambling problem out in Isaan.

 

Well, it's not our circus. 

 

They are big boys n girls, let them have some fun. 

[FruitPudding]

On 10/22/2022 at 5:45 PM, Nemises said:

Live, streaming blackjack is available online. You actually see the dealer (yes, a real live person) dealing your cards.

As previously mentioned, I would rather play live, online, at home than ever again walking into the disgusting, stinking, cigarette smoke-filled gaming areas of certain casinos that I have encountered (mainly in SE Asia). 

 

 

 

Is it Evolution Gaming?

[jacko45k]

11 hours ago, FruitPudding said:

 

Well, it's not our circus. 

 

They are big boys n girls, let them have some fun. 

It's an evil business, playing on people's weaknesses and driving them into misery and often crime. Thailand can do well without it...it is suitable only for hollow societies with too much money to squander. 

[FruitPudding]

3 hours ago, jacko45k said:

It's an evil business, playing on people's weaknesses and driving them into misery and often crime. Thailand can do well without it...it is suitable only for hollow societies with too much money to squander. 

 

While I agree it's an evil business, it's no worse than cigarettes, alcohol, marijuana,  sugar, fast food, prostitution, and maybe even religion. 

 

They can all destroy lives and wreck societies. 

[PJ71]

14 hours ago, FruitPudding said:

 

Well, it's not our circus. 

 

They are big boys n girls, let them have some fun. 

For the average person a rare night out to a casino can be fun but to many people it's a horrible addiction and ruins lives.

[ChaiyaTH]

It's funny how few people seem to know about the huge investment project near UTP airport, where the casino obviously will come, I knew since early covid about.

[ChaiyaTH]

4 minutes ago, PJ71 said:

For the average person a rare night out to a casino can be fun but to many people it's a horrible addiction and ruins lives.

Non-issue, they already made clear since ages that these casino's will only be at a specific places. Besides that, most Thais gamble online anyway.

[PJ71]

Just now, ChaiyaTH said:

Non-issue, they already made clear since ages that these casino's will only be at a specific places. Besides that, most Thais gamble online anyway.

And many people smoked weed before it was legalised, look now....

 

Your comment makes zero sense.