State data show more Republican excess COVID-19 deaths during pandemic compared to Democrats - study

[onthedarkside]

 

New statistics from Ohio and Florida published by the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) show that Republicans have suffered more COVID-related excess deaths than Democrats, adding to the literature that demonstrates the link between political party affiliation, vaccination uptake, and COVID-19 mortality.

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The data show that the [overall] excess COVID-19 death rate for Republicans was 5.4 percentage points, or 76%, higher than the excess death rate for Democrats, and it increased after vaccines became widely available. After the introduction of vaccines, the excess death rate gap between Republicans and Democrats widened from 1.6 percentage points (22% of the Democrat excess death rate) to 10.4 percentage points (153% of the Democrat excess death rate).

 

Previous studies have shown Republican-leaning, or "red "counties have had higher COVID-19 mortality rates than Democratic-leaning counties, but this is the first attempt to understand the excess death risk at the individual level.

 

"Registered Republicans in Florida and Ohio had higher excess death rates than registered Democrats, driven by a large mortality gap in the period after all adults were eligible for vaccines," the authors concluded.

 

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/10/covid-19-scan-oct-04-2022

 

 

 

Original Study (conclusion):

 

Excess Death Rates for Republicans and Democrats During the COVID-19 Pandemic

 

"Overall, our results suggest that political party affiliation only became a substantial risk factor in Ohio and Florida after vaccines were widely available. Lack of individual-level vaccination status limits our ability to draw broad conclusions, but the results suggest that the well-documented differences in vaccination attitudes and reported uptake between Republicans and Democrats [10, 7, 8, 13] have already had serious consequences for the severity and trajectory of the pandemic in the United States. If these differences in vaccination by political party affiliation persist, then the higher excess death rate among Republicans is likely to continue through the subsequent stages of the COVID-19 pandemic."

 

https://www.nber.org/papers/w30512

 

[candide]

Another evidence supporting Darwin's theory. ????

[300sd]

Kind of like elections. All depends who is counting the votes!

[Eric Loh]

Not a good time to be a Republican especially the MAGA kind. 

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, 300sd said:

Kind of like elections. All depends who is counting the votes!

Do you want to subject these results to multiple audits and recounts?  Just as in 2020, it won't change the outcome.

[pomchop]

and repub antivaxxers also spread more covid because they bought into the all a hoax BS ....

 

I had two good friends who refused the vax as they believed the BS....both otherwise healthy both dead of covid.

 

Rumours and outright lies kill people.  Yet they persist.

[300sd]

1 hour ago, heybruce said:

Do you want to subject these results to multiple audits and recounts?  Just as in 2020, it won't change the outcome.

No. You are right. It won't change the outcome. The truth wouldn't even change the outcome so why bother.

[candide]

4 minutes ago, 300sd said:

No. You are right. It won't change the outcome. The truth wouldn't even change the outcome so why bother.

What truth?

[KhunLA]

hmm ... FL = retirees, and Rep / conservatives may also mean the same, an older demographical.

 

As stated, who's counting, who agenda being met.  Man ... oops, people (PC) corrupt anything they touch.

 

Edited October 6, 2022 by onthedarkside
trolling comment removed

[candide]

48 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

hmm ... FL = retirees, and Rep / conservatives may also mean the same, an older demographical.

 

As stated, who's counting, who agenda being met.  Man ... oops, people (PC) corrupt anything they touch.

 

Fodder for the sheep ...

Correlated by the rate of vaccination, an obvious explanation corroborated by many studies (death rate related to vaccination rate)

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As to "who counts", GOP voters are more likely to live in GOP states or precincts. Do you mean that GOP politicians and officials are more likely to overcount the number of Covid deaths than Dems? ????

Edited October 6, 2022 by candide

[KhunLA]

23 minutes ago, candide said:

Correlated by the rate of vaccination, an obvious explanation corroborated by many studies (death rate related to vaccination rate)

.

As to "who counts", GOP voters are more likely to leave in GOP states or precincts. Do you mean that GOP politicians and officials are more likely to overcount the number of Covid deaths than Dems? ????

Funding the nber ... from wiki... "The largest donators currently are the "National Institute of Health" ... think Fauci

 

... would anyone expect any anti-vaccine study to come from these people funding anything.

 

As I stated ... man corrupts whatever he touches.

Edited October 6, 2022 by KhunLA

[candide]

8 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Funding the nber ... The largest donators currently are the "National Institute of Health" ... think Fauci

 

... would anyone expect any anti-vaccine study to come from these people funding anything.

 

As I stated man corrupts whatever he touches.

The data is provided by the States (ex Florida).

Another lame conspiracy theory.

Edited October 6, 2022 by candide

[KhunLA]

6 minutes ago, candide said:

The data is provided by the States (ex Florida).

Another lame conspiracy theory.

No, just thinking for myself.  That it is even a news item, screams, somebody has an agenda.

 

Studies, polls, surveys ... No Thanks

[pomchop]

tell my two otherwise healthy friends who bought the antivax bs caught covid and are now dead that it is all just surveys and some kind of conspiracy theory.....tell their wives and kids who also refused vax and watched fox news nonstop til they caught covid but kids ok and wives barely survived and still not back to normal....

[Chomper Higgot]

Clearly some will not be convinced no matter what the evidence.

 

Refer a couple of examples above.

[candide]

11 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

No, just thinking for myself.  That it is even a news item, screams, somebody has an agenda.

 

Studies, polls, surveys ... No Thanks

Facts, no thanks!????

 

Known fact: Covid death rate is higher for unvaccinated people

Known fact,: vaccination rate was significantly lower among Republicans.

 

So there is absolutely no reason to doubt about a study confirming that the COVID death rate is higher in a group with a lower rate of vaccination.

[onthedarkside]

The study in question was done by professors from Yale University.

 

Jacob Wallace
Yale School of Public Health

Paul Goldsmith-Pinkham
Yale School of Management

Jason L. Schwartz
Yale School of Public Health

 

 

The following is a brief info item re NBER:

 

"The National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) is a private, nonpartisan organization that facilitates cutting-edge investigation and analysis of major economic issues. It disseminates research findings to academics, public and private-sector decision-makers, and the public by posting more than 1,200 working papers and convening more than 120 scholarly conferences, each year."

 

Also:

"The NBER conducts research but does not make policy recommendations or carry out advocacy on the basis of research findings."

 

https://www.nber.org/about-nber

 

And their wiki entry regarding funding:

 

"According to the NBER, they are funded by grants from government agencies, private foundations, by corporate and individual contributions, and by income from the NBER's investment portfolio. The largest donators currently are the National Institute of Health, the National Science Foundation, the Social Security Administration, and the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation.^"

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bureau_of_Economic_Research#Funding

 

[onthedarkside]

The findings also parallel prior research findings that have been done by others on the same issues:

 

People in Republican Counties Have Higher Death Rates Than Those in Democratic Counties

 

July 18, 2022

 

"During the COVID-19 pandemic, the link between politics and health became glaringly obvious. Democrat-leaning “blue” states were more likely to enact mask requirements and vaccine and social distancing mandates. Republican-leaning “red” states were much more resistant to health measures.

 

The consequences of those differences emerged by the end of 2020, when rates of hospitalization and death from COVID rose in conservative counties and dropped in liberal ones. That divergence continued through 2021, when vaccines became widely available.

 

And although the highly transmissible Omicron variant narrowed the gap in infection rates, hospitalization and death rates, which are dramatically reduced by vaccines, remain higher in Republican-leaning parts of the country."

 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/people-in-republican-counties-have-higher-death-rates-than-those-in-democratic-counties/

 

 

[onthedarkside]

A trolling post has been removed.

 

[KhunLA]

48 minutes ago, candide said:

Facts, no thanks!????

 

Known fact: Covid death rate is higher for unvaccinated people

Known fact,: vaccination rate was significantly lower among Republicans.

 

So there is absolutely no reason to doubt about a study confirming that the COVID death rate is higher in a group with a lower rate of vaccination.

It's called 'division' ... why would any study, of any disease or vaccine/medicine, have any results / demographics by 'political party' ?

 

Think about that, don't hurt yourself ...

 

Why not, covid kills more ... gun owners

... pro-lifers

... anti-illegal immigrants

... Atheist

... anti MMGW folks

... EV buyer

 

Pick an agenda ... 'divide & conquer' or should be

'divide & steal your income'

 

Have a nice day ... ????

[placeholder]

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Funding the nber ... from wiki... "The largest donators currently are the "National Institute of Health" ... think Fauci

 

... would anyone expect any anti-vaccine study to come from these people funding anything.

 

As I stated ... man corrupts whatever he touches.

This kind of thinking explains why Trump supporters have a higher death rate from Covid.

[onthedarkside]

Another trolling post has been removed.

 

[300sd]

Just follow the funding.

[OneMoreFarang]

Win/win

[Eric Loh]

2 hours ago, KhunLA said:

It's called 'division' ... why would any study, of any disease or vaccine/medicine, have any results / demographics by 'political party' ?

 

Don't really need a study as we all know that Republicans are firmly anti-vaxxers and therefore vulnerable to deaths. You practically hear from their own leaders like De Santis legislating to fight federal Covid-19 vaccination rules. Those gullible fools who hang on every words of De Santis's opposing federal rules crammed into the House and Senate galleries, filled up 2 overflow rooms and gathered on the steps of the capitol super spreader style. Hope these folks are alive. Well the study now confirmed what everyone knew of the recklessness of GOP leaders toying with the lives of their supporters. 

[candide]

4 hours ago, KhunLA said:

It's called 'division' ... why would any study, of any disease or vaccine/medicine, have any results / demographics by 'political party' ?

 

Think about that, don't hurt yourself ...

 

Why not, covid kills more ... gun owners

... pro-lifers

... anti-illegal immigrants

... Atheist

... anti MMGW folks

... EV buyer

 

Pick an agenda ... 'divide & conquer' or should be

'divide & steal your income'

 

Have a nice day ... ????

Because anti-vax propaganda was mainly diffused by particular political side and it may be interesting to know its impact?

[Chomper Higgot]

As a Liberal I’m struggling with the concept of ‘Republican excess deaths’.

 

If the Republicans believe encouraging their supporters to follow a course of action/inaction that results, by means of Darwinian selection, in a reduction of their own voter base why would any Liberal waste headspace worrying about it.

 

[herfiehandbag]

On 10/6/2022 at 1:31 PM, candide said:

Facts, no thanks!????

 

Known fact: Covid death rate is higher for unvaccinated people

Known fact,: vaccination rate was significantly lower among Republicans.

 

So there is absolutely no reason to doubt about a study confirming that the COVID death rate is higher in a group with a lower rate of vaccination.

 

On 10/6/2022 at 2:25 PM, KhunLA said:

It's called 'division' ... why would any study, of any disease or vaccine/medicine, have any results / demographics by 'political party' ?

 

Think about that, don't hurt yourself ...

 

Why not, covid kills more ... gun owners

... pro-lifers

... anti-illegal immigrants

... Atheist

... anti MMGW folks

... EV buyer

 

Pick an agenda ... 'divide & conquer' or should be

'divide & steal your income'

 

Have a nice day ... ????

The data supports the facts stated by @candide.

 

it has nothing to do with: gun owners,

pro-lifers, anti-illegal immigrants, atheists, anti MMGW folks or EV buyers.

 

I would speculate that if you looked at each of those groups, and examined the death rate amongst those that were vaccinated as opposed to the death rate of those that were not vaccinated, you would find that the disparity was similar.

 

The only agenda displayed here is denial of simple facts.

Edited October 8, 2022 by herfiehandbag

[candide]

1 hour ago, herfiehandbag said:

 

The data supports the facts stated by @candide.

 

it has nothing to do with: gun owners,

pro-lifers, anti-illegal immigrants, atheists, anti MMGW folks or EV buyers.

 

I would speculate that if you looked at each of those groups, and examined the death rate amongst those that were vaccinated as opposed to the death rate of those that were not vaccinated, you would find that the disparity was similar.

 

The only agenda displayed here is denial of simple facts.

Survival of the fittest minds! ????