OTHERED: How racism, xenophobia and religious discrimination were woven into the fabric of the UK

[Scott]

In the summer of 2020, Black Lives Matter protests swept through the United Kingdom, demanding the nation weed out systemic racism across its institutions. England’s footballers took the knee at every Euro 2020 match, books on racial injustice sold out, and the government agreed to hold inquiries. A racial reckoning was coming.

Two years on, the urgency to find equitable paths forward appears to have been lost. The government is pressing ahead with plans to send to Rwanda hundreds — eventually tens of thousands — of men who arrive in the country from the Middle East, Africa and Asia seeking asylum. The government calls them “illegal” migrants because they arrive by boat. In reality, most are refugees. At the same time, the UK has opened its doors to more than 100,000 Ukrainians since Russia launched its war.

 

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2022/10/uk/othered-systemic-racism-uk-gbr-cmd-intl/

[thaibeachlovers]

7 hours ago, Scott said:

The government is pressing ahead with plans to send to Rwanda hundreds — eventually tens of thousands — of men who arrive in the country from the Middle East, Africa and Asia seeking asylum.

They will be safe in Rwanda where they can have their hearings to determine if they are genuine refugees, or economic migrants.

IMO the UK version of Australia's successful operation to stop the boats from Indonesia.

[Hanaguma]

Such a joke that a blatantly racist and thoroughly corrupt organization like BLM would be so naively accepted in the UK.  Especially ironic considering Britain's leadership in ending the west African slave trade and outlawing the deplorable practice in the 1800s.  

 

Plus you know that the story on CNN cannot be taken seriously as journalism when you see dear Megan's smug gob stuck at the end as anything equivalent of actual oppression.

[baboon]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

They will be safe in Rwanda where they can have their hearings to determine if they are genuine refugees, or economic migrants.

And what happens when their cases are determined genuine?

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, baboon said:

And what happens when their cases are determined genuine?

Whatever is the policy, which is decided by the government in accordance with international treaties.

[Hanaguma]

It seems rather obvious that a genuine refugee wouldn't go 'country shopping' to find the best deal.  Tripping across several modern and safe countries, THEN taking a dangerous boat trip across the Channel is evidence enough that the vast majority are simply economic migrants.

 

The point of asylum is to seek a temporary refuge, until their native land is safe to return to. It isn't a backdoor to permanent immigration.  

[nauseus]

Strange that CNN claim that the UK is guilty in this story, at a time when other countries and peoples were behaving even more badly then the Poms.

[Mac Mickmanus]

It seems to be a certain group of people who start off every discussion by calling other  people  a racist .

   They call other people racists and that person is left trying to convince others that he isn't a racist .

   The U.K is a multi racial society and articles like this are just provocative .  

   Th U.K addressed the issue of racism, long before the BLM people used racism to promote themselves 

[simple1]

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

They will be safe in Rwanda where they can have their hearings to determine if they are genuine refugees, or economic migrants. IMO the UK version of Australia's successful operation to stop the boats from Indonesia.

Firstly a heads up on the reality of life in Rwanda....

 

"While the regime has maintained stability and economic growth, it has also suppressed political dissent though pervasive surveillance, intimidation, torture, and renditions or suspected assassinations of exiled dissidents".

 

https://freedomhouse.org/country/rwanda

 

The cost to the Australian taxpayer for Offshore Processing, contrary to UN Refugee Conventions, has been enormous. Estimated at approx $400k per person p.a.

 

https://www.kaldorcentre.unsw.edu.au/publication/cost-australias-asylum-policy#:~:text=In the 2021-2022 financial,cost of A%24812 million).

 

The tens of millions held in refugees camps around the world are mostly without hope for resettlement.

[Bluespunk]

“How racism, xenophobia and religious discrimination were woven into the fabric of the UK”

No arguments with that statement here. 

[baboon]

9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Whatever is the policy, which is decided by the government in accordance with international treaties.

Simpler just to point out they stay in Rwanda. They are not welcome in the UK under any circumstances. Why be so evasive?

[Chomper Higgot]

20 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Whatever is the policy, which is decided by the government in accordance with international treaties.

Except it isn’t, which is why the courts intervene and stop the Government breaking treaty obligations.

[Chomper Higgot]

18 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

It seems to be a certain group of people who start off every discussion by calling other  people  a racist .

   They call other people racists and that person is left trying to convince others that he isn't a racist .

   The U.K is a multi racial society and articles like this are just provocative .  

   Th U.K addressed the issue of racism, long before the BLM people used racism to promote themselves 

Oh, so there is no racism in the UK then?

 

 

[2009]

13 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

“How racism, xenophobia and religious discrimination were woven into the fabric of the UK”

No arguments with that statement here. 

Are you kidding?

 

Could the UK have bent over any more to accept new cultures, religions, and races?

[Bluespunk]

2 minutes ago, 2009 said:

Are you kidding?

 

Could the UK have bent over any more to accept new cultures, religions, and races?

A: No

 

B: Yes. 

Edited October 14, 2022 by Bluespunk

[2009]

1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

A: No

 

B: Yes. 

This is just sad.

 

I was saying things like this 15 years ago, but then left moved so far to the extreme left I find myself sitting over in the right now, lol

[Bluespunk]

4 minutes ago, 2009 said:

This is just sad.

 

I was saying things like this 15 years ago, but then left moved so far to the extreme left I find myself sitting over in the right now, lol

I really don’t see your perceived views on politics have any relation to the fact that racism is still a cancer that affects the U.K.  

 

What is sad is your refusal to see this because you don’t want to face this reality. 

Edited October 14, 2022 by Bluespunk

[2009]

1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

I really don’t see your perceived views on politics have any relation to the fact that racism is still a cancer that affects the U.K.  

 

What is sad is your refusal to see this because you don’t want it to be true. 

The UK has to be one of the least racist countries on Earth.

 

Try going to: Greece, Italy, Saudi Arabia, Africa, Thailand, Indonesia, China, Japan etc. etc.

[Bluespunk]

6 minutes ago, 2009 said:

The UK has to be one of the least racist countries on Earth.

 

Try going to: Greece, Italy, Saudi Arabia, Africa, Thailand, Indonesia, China, Japan etc. etc.

Really not sure how you have decided upon that opening sentence and even if true (and I am by no means saying it is true), it really doesn’t matter how racist the country is compared to any other, you have chosen to allege is worse.
 

This thread is about the uk not any other place. 

Edited October 14, 2022 by Bluespunk

[2009]

2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Really not sure how you have decided upon that opening sentence and even if true (and I am by no means saying it is true), it really doesn’t matter how racist the country is compared to any other, you have chosen to allege is worse.
 

This thread is about the uk not any other place. 

I am saying if you are gonna complain about racist countries, the UK should be last on the list.

 

And my point is: the UK doesn't have a problem with racism. There may be a few individuals, but you are acting like it's a national problem.

 

The national problem is being too generous to foreigners when Britain needs to take care of itself.

[Bluespunk]

5 minutes ago, 2009 said:

I am saying if you are gonna complain about racist countries, the UK should be last on the list.

Say it all you want, it doesn’t make it any truer. 

 

5 minutes ago, 2009 said:

And my point is: the UK doesn't have a problem with racism. There may be a few individuals, but you are acting like it's a national problem.

The U.K. does have a problem with racism, as the OP highlights, and it is a national problem. 

 

5 minutes ago, 2009 said:

The national problem is being too generous to foreigners when Britain needs to take care of itself.

Nonsense. 
 

https://news.un.org/en/story/2021/04/1090032

Edited October 14, 2022 by Bluespunk
Link added

[2009]

2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Say it all you want, it doesn’t make it any truer. 

 

The U.K. does have a problem with racism, as the OP highlights, and it is a national problem. 

 

Nonsense. 

Ok, you are basically offering nothing now with your responses, just one word answers and circular reasoning. ???? ????

 

See ya ????

[thaibeachlovers]

15 hours ago, simple1 said:

Firstly a heads up on the reality of life in Rwanda....

 

"While the regime has maintained stability and economic growth, it has also suppressed political dissent though pervasive surveillance, intimidation, torture, and renditions or suspected assassinations of exiled dissidents".

 

https://freedomhouse.org/country/rwanda

 

The cost to the Australian taxpayer for Offshore Processing, contrary to UN Refugee Conventions, has been enormous. Estimated at approx $400k per person p.a.

 

https://www.kaldorcentre.unsw.edu.au/publication/cost-australias-asylum-policy#:~:text=In the 2021-2022 financial,cost of A%24812 million).

 

The tens of millions held in refugees camps around the world are mostly without hope for resettlement.

If life in Rwanda was like a holiday camp the numbers crossing the channel would likely increase. The point of the exercise is to dissuade people from crossing the channel in rubber boats and sometimes dying because of it.

[thaibeachlovers]

18 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Really not sure how you have decided upon that opening sentence and even if true (and I am by no means saying it is true), it really doesn’t matter how racist the country is compared to any other, you have chosen to allege is worse.
 

This thread is about the uk not any other place. 

If it was as bad as you apparently think it is, why would anyone want to risk death to get there?

[thaibeachlovers]

6 minutes ago, 2009 said:

Ok, you are basically offering nothing now with your responses, just one word answers and circular reasoning. ????????

 

See ya ????

There are some that see racists everywhere, and seek to be offended as often as possible.

[Bluespunk]

10 minutes ago, 2009 said:

Ok, you are basically offering nothing now with your responses, just one word answers and circular reasoning. ????????

 

See ya ????

Ah the irony of you making baseless assertions and accusing others of offering nothing.

 

Educate yourself and read the link I added to my last post. Further education embedded within it...

[Bluespunk]

8 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If it was as bad as you apparently think it is, why would anyone want to risk death to get there?

The fact people flee persecution, war, terror and other forms of violence has nothing to do with an issue that affects millions of uk citizens...

Edited October 14, 2022 by Bluespunk
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[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, Bluespunk said:

The fact people flee persecution, was, violence and other forms of violence has nothing to do with an issue that affects millions of uk citizens...

I lived in London for 10 years and worked with people from all over the world including Africa, and never once did anyone of any origin complain of racism in my hearing.

Seems like an attempt to make a mountain out of the proverbial molehill, by those that profit from such.

[Bluespunk]

3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I lived in London for 10 years and worked with people from all over the world including Africa, and never once did anyone of any origin complain of racism in my hearing.

Seems like an attempt to make a mountain out of the proverbial molehill, by those that profit from such.

Nonetheless racism is a cancer that afflicts the country...

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

Nonetheless racism is a cancer that afflicts the country...

Unless it's changed since I left that, IMO, is not true.