Thailand abstains in UN vote condemning Russia’s “illegal referenda” in Ukraine

[Why Me]

2 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

If you can’t comprehend the message in the statement where they even include the infringed human rights of the Ukrainians of which they have been deprived then it’s pointless carrying on, goodnight

Of course, everyone bemoans the infringed human rights of the Ukrainians. Except it's not clear who's at fault: Russians, Nato, Banderites, ... Certainly the Thais don't accuse anyone in that statement.

 

Please don't go. It's late and I'm lonely. We can still be friends.

[coolcarer]

3 minutes ago, Why Me said:

Of course, everyone bemoans the infringed human rights of the Ukrainians. Except it's not clear who's at fault: Russians, Nato, Banderites, ... Certainly the Thais don't accuse anyone in that statement.

 

Please don't go. It's late and I'm lonely. We can still be friends.

Your trolling, NATO did not annexe the territories………Putin did. 
 

 

[Jingthing]

10 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Your trolling, NATO did not annexe the territories………Putin did. 
 

 

Bingo. 

[Bluespunk]

1 hour ago, Why Me said:

Of course, everyone bemoans the infringed human rights of the Ukrainians. Except it's not clear who's at fault: Russians, Nato, Banderites, ... Certainly the Thais don't accuse anyone in that statement.

 

Please don't go. It's late and I'm lonely. We can still be friends.

It’s completely clear who is at fault. It’s the country that invaded Ukraine, well it’s despotic tyrant and his inner circle for a starter. 

Edited October 13, 2022 by Bluespunk

[tomacht8]

Interesting to see this asymmetry. The pro-Putin understanders are free to post their opinions without fear of reprisals. While opponents of the war and Putin's critics in Russia have to fear imprisonment, poisoning or death.

 

Eli Wiesel: “You have to take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim, silence empowers the tormentor, never the tormented.”

[Why Me]

1 hour ago, coolcarer said:

Your trolling, NATO did not annexe the territories………Putin did. 
 

 

Yes, he did. After they voted to join Russia. Don't leave that out.

[Artisi]

1 hour ago, Why Me said:

Yes, he did. After they voted to join Russia. Don't leave that out.

Just like Thailand's PM was elected, so don't leave that aside in your analysis as to how it came about. 

[Why Me]

10 minutes ago, Artisi said:

Just like Thailand's PM was elected, so don't leave that aside in your analysis as to how it came about. 

Dangerous ground, kid. I wouldn't touch Thai politics with a barge pole. Not on AN.

[hotchilli]

19 hours ago, webfact said:

Thailand has abstained, as did China and India, in a vote on the UN resolution not to recognise the four regions of Ukraine which Russia has claimed, following referenda held late last month.

Thailands true colours again.... sickening.

[jacko45k]

9 hours ago, ChessNerd said:

We all know this is true.

You do not know what others 'know'..... 

Nonsense statement.....

[Jingthing]

3 hours ago, jacko45k said:

You do not know what others 'know'..... 

Nonsense statement.....

Of course, and interestingly that's a typical rhetorical trick of a certain notorious ex-US president, another Putin synchophant.

[BarraMarra]

22 hours ago, Jingthing said:

In other words when it gets too hot in the kitchen, Thailand calls for delivery from Food Panda.

 

Or does the usual dig a hole in the sand stick your head in wait a while then pull your head out.

[Puccini]

21 hours ago, flossie35 said:

...The areas in question are populated mainly by Russians. For the last few years, while part of Ukraine, they have been bombarded by Ukraine, with 14,000 deaths. Why would they vote to remain Ukranian? For whatever reason, Thailand has got it right... 

I have searched the web, without success, to find information about Ukrainian bombing of the areas in the Ukraine where there were violent rebellions against the government. I am not good at using the Internet and probably used the wrong search terms and I should be grateful if you kindly posted the terms you used for your search.

[BonMot]

Say what you will about the clownish orange man but he never started a war.

 

Democrats... War incorporated.

 

The trade off:

 

Give the FSA all it wants in return for votes. In power, they make backroom deals with military industrial complex and sign blank checks to be paid decades into the future. People are so stupid.

[metisdead]

Conspiracy posts and the replies have been removed.  A post with unsubstantiated claims about Trump has been removed. 

[BonMot]

42 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Are you aware that Russia started the war that is part of this topic?

How far can a nation be pushed before it reacts.

 

I did state REact. The US has in the last 20 years alone waged proxy war, color revolutions and full blown warfare in dozens of countries. Today, it's active in at least a dozen or more. These are all actions of self interest.

 

EU are eunuchs

 

Russia is merely protecting it's self interests in the same way that the US would as called for under the Monroe doctrine set out 100 years ago.

 

Why do you care aanyway? Are you Ukrainian?

 

All Western EU problems are purely their own doing. Gee.. we need Russian energy resources desperately so let's boycott (genius!). Bc the genius cannot be contained... Let's put a cap on what we are willing to pay for Russian energy. It's freaking hilarious.

 

Russia has done nothing save for protect it's HISTORIC self interest. Apparently Thailand AGREES. So get with the program or GBH champ.

 

Such a laff people on this forum think they kknow something, anything about history, geopolitics.

 

This is another US military industrial complex proxy war.

 

Putin isn't going anywhere

 

Feel free to do donate your personal income, assets to the folly. Leave me out.

 

Putin will prevail and I'm taking wagers. PM me anyone.

 

Lambs

 

Edited October 15, 2022 by BonMot

[heybruce]

37 minutes ago, BonMot said:

How far can a nation be pushed before it reacts.

 

I did state REact. The US has in the last 20 years alone waged proxy war, color revolutions and full blown warfare in dozens of countries. Today, it's active in at least a dozen or more. These are all actions of self interest.

 

EU are eunuchs

 

Russia is merely protecting it's self interests in the same way that the US would as called for under the Monroe doctrine set out 100 years ago.

 

Why do you care aanyway? Are you Ukrainian?

 

All Western EU problems are purely their own doing. Gee.. we need Russian energy resources desperately so let's boycott (genius!). Bc the genius cannot be contained... Let's put a cap on what we are willing to pay for Russian energy. It's freaking hilarious.

 

Russia has done nothing save for protect it's HISTORIC self interest. Apparently Thailand AGREES. So get with the program or GBH champ.

 

Such a laff people on this forum think they kknow something, anything about history, geopolitics.

 

This is another US military industrial complex proxy war.

 

Putin isn't going anywhere

 

Feel free to do donate your personal income, assets to the folly. Leave me out.

 

Putin will prevail and I'm taking wagers. PM me anyone.

 

Lambs

 

If you believe Russia is entitled to rebuild the Soviet Empire against the wishes of those countries that have no desire to be part of that empire...

 

However since some of those countries that were former members of the Soviet Empire are now NATO members, and Russia made it clear early in the war that it wouldn't stop at Ukraine, it makes sense to help Ukraine defend itself.  Stop Russia now or stop it later.  The west waited until later to stop Nazi Germany; it was a costly mistake, especially for Russia. 

 

Your assumption that Putin isn't going anywhere may prove to be optimistic.  Let's see what happens when body bags are sent home to Moscow, St Petersberg, etc.

[BonMot]

8 hours ago, heybruce said:

If you believe Russia is entitled to rebuild the Soviet Empire against the wishes of those countries that have no desire to be part of that empire...

 

However since some of those countries that were former members of the Soviet Empire are now NATO members, and Russia made it clear early in the war that it wouldn't stop at Ukraine, it makes sense to help Ukraine defend itself.  Stop Russia now or stop it later.  The west waited until later to stop Nazi Germany; it was a costly mistake, especially for Russia. 

 

Your assumption that Putin isn't going anywhere may prove to be optimistic.  Let's see what happens when body bags are sent home to Moscow, St Petersberg, etc.

Haha how misguided and hyperbolic.

 

Apparently, by vote half the Ukraine is quite ok with being aligned with Russia. Then there's Crimea which no one country is saying squat about. Tis another irony.

 

Then there's all the Obama, Biden mischief in Ukraine hmmmm.

 

Ironically, Ukraine just as or more corrupt as Russia. Biden (Obama, MIC) stamp of approval.

 

Appears just as many former E bloc counties are ok with being aligned with Russia as not. Giving historic, energy, geopolitical concerns that is understandable as well as US mischief and color revolutions.

 

EU grumblings about duly elected officials.

 

Soviet era... Hahaha. Russia isn't going back to command economy but plenty of Communists running around in western counties demanding all sorts of civilization wrecking stupidity. Demanding society give them a livelihood for sitting about smoking weed, dying hair pink and engaging in homosexual activities. None of this is the least bit productive. The free money.. we see the damage now. It's called inflation

 

Russia and China have new international money transfer system in place, petro dollar will disappear soon. That will go a long way to putting these US proxy wars in place.

 

Nazi Germany, Soviet blah blah. This is just fear mongering meanwhile you apparently support never ending wars in distant lands to prop up throughly incorrigible regimes.

 

Nazi Germany is now 100 years in the past.

 

Bringing this back to Thailand. Regardless how we feel about it.. each country has a god given right to its own self determination. Thailand abstained.

 

At least Putin has balls. He always held all the cards but then the west decided to only play weak hands. This is on the Russia's border. No lessons learned from Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan. Russia has forever and to think US troops flying homosexual flags could spend even one winter in a trench in Ukraine with their tranny admiral at the helm and battle the bear... well, that is folly indeed.

 

It's not Thailand's war. It's not USs war. Shi+ happens. Send YOUR private donations now to Zelenski his parents need to upgrade their million dollar home in IIsrael

 

There will be more votes like this for Thailand. If you don't support the country time for all to go. Domestic or international policies... Time to go

Edited October 15, 2022 by BonMot

[coolcarer]

1 hour ago, BonMot said:

Haha how misguided and hyperbolic.

 

Apparently, by vote half the Ukraine is quite ok with being aligned with Russia. Then there's Crimea which no one country is saying squat about. Tis another irony.

 

Then there's all the Obama, Biden mischief in Ukraine hmmmm.

 

Ironically, Ukraine just as or more corrupt as Russia. Biden (Obama, MIC) stamp of approval.

 

Appears just as many former E bloc counties are ok with being aligned with Russia as not. Giving historic, energy, geopolitical concerns that is understandable as well as US mischief and color revolutions.

 

EU grumblings about duly elected officials.

 

Soviet era... Hahaha. Russia isn't going back to command economy but plenty of Communists running around in western counties demanding all sorts of civilization wrecking stupidity. Demanding society give them a livelihood for sitting about smoking weed, dying hair pink and engaging in homosexual activities. None of this is the least bit productive. The free money.. we see the damage now. It's called inflation

 

Russia and China have new international money transfer system in place, petro dollar will disappear soon. That will go a long way to putting these US proxy wars in place.

 

Nazi Germany, Soviet blah blah. This is just fear mongering meanwhile you apparently support never ending wars in distant lands to prop up throughly incorrigible regimes.

 

Nazi Germany is now 100 years in the past.

 

Bringing this back to Thailand. Regardless how we feel about it.. each country has a god given right to its own self determination. Thailand abstained.

 

At least Putin has balls. He always held all the cards but then the west decided to only play weak hands. This is on the Russia's border. No lessons learned from Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan. Russia has forever and to think US troops flying homosexual flags could spend even one winter in a trench in Ukraine with their tranny admiral at the helm and battle the bear... well, that is folly indeed.

 

It's not Thailand's war. It's not USs war. Shi+ happens. Send YOUR private donations now to Zelenski his parents need to upgrade their million dollar home in IIsrael

 

There will be more votes like this for Thailand. If you don't support the country time for all to go. Domestic or international policies... Time to go

How misguided and hyperbolic you say…..lol

 

Then go off on a homophobic rant, people dying their hair and to finish of mention how big Putin’s balls are. I detect a little insecurity from you Vlad. Very amusing though.

[Jingthing]

13 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

How misguided and hyperbolic you say…..lol

 

Then go off on a homophobic rant, people dying their hair and to finish of mention how big Putin’s balls are. I detect a little insecurity from you Vlad. Very amusing though.

Methinks another case of don't feed the dinner roll.

[BonMot]

4 hours ago, coolcarer said:

homophobic

Phobic

 

You imply fear. No fear at any level.

 

Just don't approve of man on man sexual intercourse. Not my lifestyle.

[coolcarer]

18 minutes ago, BonMot said:

Phobic

 

You imply fear. No fear at any level.

 

Just don't approve of man on man sexual intercourse. Not my lifestyle.

Yes I know Vlad you made that very clear (twice) as one of your justifications for invading Ukraine. How’s Putin’s balls?

 

quote my full post next time if you insist on replying duckie,,,,,,,lol

Edited October 15, 2022 by coolcarer

[heybruce]

9 hours ago, BonMot said:

Haha how misguided and hyperbolic.

 

Apparently, by vote half the Ukraine is quite ok with being aligned with Russia. Then there's Crimea which no one country is saying squat about. Tis another irony.

 

Then there's all the Obama, Biden mischief in Ukraine hmmmm.

 

Ironically, Ukraine just as or more corrupt as Russia. Biden (Obama, MIC) stamp of approval.

 

Appears just as many former E bloc counties are ok with being aligned with Russia as not. Giving historic, energy, geopolitical concerns that is understandable as well as US mischief and color revolutions.

 

EU grumblings about duly elected officials.

 

Soviet era... Hahaha. Russia isn't going back to command economy but plenty of Communists running around in western counties demanding all sorts of civilization wrecking stupidity. Demanding society give them a livelihood for sitting about smoking weed, dying hair pink and engaging in homosexual activities. None of this is the least bit productive. The free money.. we see the damage now. It's called inflation

 

Russia and China have new international money transfer system in place, petro dollar will disappear soon. That will go a long way to putting these US proxy wars in place.

 

Nazi Germany, Soviet blah blah. This is just fear mongering meanwhile you apparently support never ending wars in distant lands to prop up throughly incorrigible regimes.

 

Nazi Germany is now 100 years in the past.

 

Bringing this back to Thailand. Regardless how we feel about it.. each country has a god given right to its own self determination. Thailand abstained.

 

At least Putin has balls. He always held all the cards but then the west decided to only play weak hands. This is on the Russia's border. No lessons learned from Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan. Russia has forever and to think US troops flying homosexual flags could spend even one winter in a trench in Ukraine with their tranny admiral at the helm and battle the bear... well, that is folly indeed.

 

It's not Thailand's war. It's not USs war. Shi+ happens. Send YOUR private donations now to Zelenski his parents need to upgrade their million dollar home in IIsrael

 

There will be more votes like this for Thailand. If you don't support the country time for all to go. Domestic or international policies... Time to go

A deflecting rant that doesn't directly address anything in my post.

 

Nazi Germany existed less than 100 years ago, in living memory of many.  The lessons learned in failure to address an aggressive empire building dictator are timeless.

 

Votes conducted at gunpoint in occupied territories are as meaningless as votes can be.  If China decided to take Manchuria back and then held a vote in the occupied territory would Russia accept the result?

 

I never posted that countries that wished to align with Russia shouldn't be allowed to do so.  I posted that countries that are threatened by Russia are free to make alliances to protect themselves.

 

What Biden and Obama mischief in Ukraine are you referring to?  Give referenced examples.

 

Your admiration of Putin's "balls" is telling.   Do you have posters of shirtless Putin in your room?  I've observed that sometimes vocal, anti-gay macho men are gay but in denial.

 

Zelenskyy appears in public and visits front line soldiers.  Does Putin do that?

 

Thailand abstained on the UN illegal referendum vote because it doesn't want to call attention to its constitution written by the military following a coup and approved in a referendum that fell well short of democratic standards.  However the Thai constitutional referendum was still far better than the farce Russia imposed on the occupied territories in Ukraine.

[Artisi]

12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Methinks another case of don't feed the dinner roll.

Along with a few others. 

[luckyblock token]

thank you Thailand for this smart decision.

[BonMot]

6 hours ago, heybruce said:

A deflecting rant that doesn't directly address anything in my post.

 

Nazi Germany existed less than 100 years ago, in living memory of many.  The lessons learned in failure to address an aggressive empire building dictator are timeless.

 

Votes conducted at gunpoint in occupied territories are as meaningless as votes can be.  If China decided to take Manchuria back and then held a vote in the occupied territory would Russia accept the result?

 

I never posted that countries that wished to align with Russia shouldn't be allowed to do so.  I posted that countries that are threatened by Russia are free to make alliances to protect themselves.

 

What Biden and Obama mischief in Ukraine are you referring to?  Give referenced examples.

 

Your admiration of Putin's "balls" is telling.   Do you have posters of shirtless Putin in your room?  I've observed that sometimes vocal, anti-gay macho men are gay but in denial.

 

Zelenskyy appears in public and visits front line soldiers.  Does Putin do that?

 

Thailand abstained on the UN illegal referendum vote because it doesn't want to call attention to its constitution written by the military following a coup and approved in a referendum that fell well short of democratic standards.  However the Thai constitutional referendum was still far better than the farce Russia imposed on the occupied territories in Ukraine.

Much to say but I'll leave it at:

 

Ironic you have so much disdain for Thailand yet you apparently call it home. You also appear to know precisely why their vote came down as it did. How insightful.

 

Zelenski is a media whore and a fraud. He's managing media and begging for billions. He's no more soldier than his maid. As point of fact he's a comedian and gay dancer not soldier nor even respectable politician. Putin doesn't need to be on the front line. Apparently Zelenski does.

 

Ukraine vs Russia. Would have been over months ago save for the billions sent by west.

 

Typical myopic liberal rant. Can never let the Nazi thing die...

 

Please make your personal Ukrainian donation at the door.

[heybruce]

56 minutes ago, BonMot said:

Much to say but I'll leave it at:

 

Ironic you have so much disdain for Thailand yet you apparently call it home. You also appear to know precisely why their vote came down as it did. How insightful.

 

Zelenski is a media whore and a fraud. He's managing media and begging for billions. He's no more soldier than his maid. As point of fact he's a comedian and gay dancer not soldier nor even respectable politician. Putin doesn't need to be on the front line. Apparently Zelenski does.

 

Ukraine vs Russia. Would have been over months ago save for the billions sent by west.

 

Typical myopic liberal rant. Can never let the Nazi thing die...

 

Please make your personal Ukrainian donation at the door.

Ok, now you are clearly trolling.

[Artisi]

3 hours ago, BonMot said:

Much to say but I'll leave it at:

 

Ironic you have so much disdain for Thailand yet you apparently call it home. You also appear to know precisely why their vote came down as it did. How insightful.

 

Zelenski is a media whore and a fraud. He's managing media and begging for billions. He's no more soldier than his maid. As point of fact he's a comedian and gay dancer not soldier nor even respectable politician. Putin doesn't need to be on the front line. Apparently Zelenski does.

 

Ukraine vs Russia. Would have been over months ago save for the billions sent by west.

 

Typical myopic liberal rant. Can never let the Nazi thing die...

 

Please make your personal Ukrainian donation at the door.

"Much to say etc:" 

But you didn't........ 

[connda]

When Thais benefit from trade agreements including uninterrupted, market-valued energy while Europeans freeze, the UK government pukes, and the US deals with "the Evil Putin induced runaway inflation" ????, and as moderate (rational) democrats 'WalkAway' on Nov 8th - Thailand as a whole will be in good shape and the average Thai citizen will not suffer austerity and massive price increases in order to prop up Western Geo-political goals of creating regime change in Russia (and China).  When my 'leaders' tell my I must suffer and enjoy extreme austerity and highly inflated prices as the mega-wealthy seek to control all resources planet-wide - even if they need to invade countries (a euphemism for bringing so-called 'democracy' to the unwashed people of color in the ME/NA/Global South as these philanthropists shoulder the "White Man's Burden"), bomb them into the stone-age and steal their resources for the benefit of the West. 

Those who 'abstained' understand they they too are under a constant threat of US sanctions and Western NGO sponsored democracy regime change.  Study history since WWII and find that destabilizing sovereign nations is the US's SOP.  As Henry Kissinger so aptly stated, "The US has neither friends or enemies, just interests."  And they are willing to destroy weaker countries to further their goals.  And Thailand fits the bill of a "weaker country."

Those countries who abstained (or voted "no"), including India and China, make up about 1/2 of the worlds global population.  That's one heck of a trading block.  As Western standards of living implode, Asian and the those of the Global South are on the rise - slowly but surely. 

So I commend Thailand for their choice.  It's the choice to stay neutral, to stay out of the fray, and to build their economic alliances with other developing countries on the rise as opposed to the dying colonial empires, i.e., the UK, US, and EU.  Those of us who remain in Thailand benefit from that neutrality.

[connda]

2 minutes ago, connda said:

(a euphemism for bringing so-called 'democracy' to the unwashed people of color in the ME/NA/Global South as these philanthropists shoulder the "White Man's Burden"), bomb them into the stone-age and steal their resources for the benefit of the West. 

Those who 'abstained' understand they they too are under a constant threat of US sanctions and Western NGO sponsored democracy regime change. 

Look at Saudi Arabia.  MBS didn't bend a knee to Biden and agree to forestall oil production cuts until after the mid-term elections.
So now that Saudi Arabia failed to bow to the political whims of a US president?  They are going to sanction Saudi Arabia.

It's not difficult to see why non-aligned countries world-wide are willing to band together in economic and security alliances to keep from become a target of the collective West.  Thailand included.