I'll lead Tories into next election, says embattled Liz Truss

[jak2002003]

3 minutes ago, GarryP said:

Don't say that. I was just about to buy front row tickets. 

It will get a lot worse of she stays in control.  They knew they will loose so will go for all they can get and ruin the county in the process... Then they probably will go and live the high live in some mansions in Europe.  

[hotandsticky]

1 minute ago, jak2002003 said:

Yes . And she was not elected by the public.  

 

 

Pointless comment; no Prime Minister is ever elected by the public - that is down to the party's selection process.

[Mac Mickmanus]

8 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

It will get a lot worse of she stays in control.  They knew they will loose so will go for all they can get and ruin the county in the process... Then they probably will go and live the high live in some mansions in Europe.  

Lose and life 

[kwilco]

57 minutes ago, puchooay said:

You are making that up. There will be caps but not for everyone. There will be means tests done.

 

You are making that up too. No decision has been made.

the decisions have been unmade - do you think they will increase the amounts?

[kwilco]

52 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Anyone willing to try and defend her and give some positives to her tenure .

    Lets face it , if you turned Liz Truss into an atom and also turned Kwasi Kwarteng into an atom and put them both into the hadron collider and sent them in different directions , when they collide , Diane Abbot would appear as the result 

post that on the thread about racism

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1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Anyone willing to try and defend her and give some positives to her tenure .

    Lets face it , if you turned Liz Truss into an atom and also turned Kwasi Kwarteng into an atom and put them both into the hadron collider and sent them in different directions , when they collide , Diane Abbot would appear as the result 

The crucial difference being that members of her party are wise enough to leave her as a backbencher.

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

The crucial difference being that members of her party are wise enough to leave her as a backbencher.

Hasn't she been back and forth between the front and back benches and also held top positions like Shadow home secretary through out the years 

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2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Hasn't she been back and forth between the front and back benches and also held top positions like Shadow home secretary through out the years 

You got me there.

[youreavinalaff]

2 hours ago, kwilco said:

the decisions have been unmade - do you think they will increase the amounts?

Having checked your posts i see you wrote

" no caps after April" 

 

That is incorrect . As has been pointed out.

Edited October 19, 2022 by youreavinalaff

[jak2002003]

3 hours ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Pointless comment; no Prime Minister is ever elected by the public - that is down to the party's selection process.

It's not a pointless comment.  Realistically peoples votes are strongly influenced by the leader of the political party.  If she was in charge at election time I strongly believe the there would be a few less people voting conservative...dont you,?  

 

 

Edited October 19, 2022 by jak2002003

[kwilco]

2 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

Having checked your posts i see you wrote

" no caps after April" 

 

That is incorrect . As has been pointed out.

The caps were guaranteed now that has been withdrawn - what do you think will happen and how do you think affects the point I'm making?

Edited October 19, 2022 by kwilco

[kwilco]

4 hours ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Pointless comment; no Prime Minister is ever elected by the public - that is down to the party's selection process.

the problem is that the Tory party can't appoint a functioning PM - the last one told lies and this one wrecked the economy, and they can't even find a replacement now.

[champers]

Suella Braverman, politically just to the right of Gengis Khan, has departed as Home Secretary per BBC. Grant Schapps being touted to replace her.

Rats.

Sinking.

Ship.

Edited October 19, 2022 by champers

[Neeranam]

Scary, she looks like the no.1 witch, Thatcher. 

[Mac Mickmanus]

21 minutes ago, kwilco said:

the problem is that the Tory party can't appoint a functioning PM - the last one told lies and this one wrecked the economy, and they can't even find a replacement now.

Truss is still PM , would need to wait until She is no longer PM before they can find a replacement . 

[kwilco]

41 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Truss is still PM , would need to wait until She is no longer PM before they can find a replacement . 

Effectively Hunt has already replaced er - they now have the home secretary resigned and Chapps from the Rishi camp is in - basically there has been a coup - everything she wanted to do has been reversed and she is being replaced with Rishi's "mainstream" cabinet. She just has the name but none of the functions. the 1922 Committee can replace her immediately if they want - but the truth is the Tories can't form a cabinet or pick a PM - but they don't have to wait, she has already been sidelined on everything she wanted to do.

 

Edited October 19, 2022 by kwilco

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 minutes ago, kwilco said:

Effectively Hunt has already replaced er - they now have the home secretary resigned and Chapps form the Rishi camp is in - basically there has been a coup - everything she wanted to do has been reversed and she is being replaced with Rishi's "mainstream" cabinet. She just has the name but none of the functions. the 1922 Committee can replace her immediately if they want - but the truth is the Tories can't form a cabinet or pick a PM - but they don't have to wait, she has already been sidelined on everything she wanted to do.

Truss is still currently UK Prime Minister ,but She doesn't seem to have the confidence of the Conservative party and She could very well lose her job on the near future and its possibly that Hunt may take over as PM or even Boris may get the job again .

   The Conservative party is in turmoil at the moment , but there hasn't been a coup and Truss is till PM

   (Coup "a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government.")

 

[Bluespunk]

Tick tick tick…braverman gone, who’s next one wonders

[Mac Mickmanus]

13 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Tick tick tick…braverman gone, who’s next one wonders

You must be thoroughly enjoying all this turmoil 

[champers]

BBC say Grant Schapps was in charge of the spreadsheet that listed those MPs who wanted Truss out.

[Bluespunk]

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

You must be thoroughly enjoying all this turmoil 

truss is everything I said she was during the leadership campaign. 
 

Incompetent, clueless about policy details and unable to heal the divisions in the party. 
 

She spent months promoting her tax cut blah blah blah despite this policy being exposed as unworkable by economists and members of her own party. And when the budget imploded in her face she threw the chancellor, who had argued against some of the proposals in the budget, under the bus to save her own worthless skin. 
 

She has been an unmitigated disaster as pm and has given the opposition a real opportunity of overturning a 70 plus majority. 
 

Am I enjoying it, no. 
 

The turmoil of this inept incompetent’s  premiership is hurting the country as a whole and she needs to go.
 

The tories are divided and, it seems, incapable of forming any type of coherent governance while their internal civil war rages on.
 

The reality is they are not fit to govern and the sooner an election occurs the better for everyone. 

Edited October 19, 2022 by Bluespunk
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[bendejo]

While she's not as bad as the US's Sarah Palin she is making the same mistakes: just because someone can manage to get on the ballot or actually obtain a position of authority does not mean they have the wherewithal for the job.  By her body language and facial expression these days I think she has figured that out about herself. 

 

 

[Bluespunk]

Braverman not going gently into that good night.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/19/liz-truss-government-on-the-brink-after-suella-bravermans-parting-shot?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

“Turning and turning in the widening gyre   

The falcon cannot hear the falconer;

Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;

Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,

The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere   

The ceremony of innocence is drowned;

The best lack all conviction, while the worst   

Are full of passionate intensity.“

 

The Second Coming

William Butler Yeats

Edited October 19, 2022 by Bluespunk
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[kwilco]

Fighting in the LobbY!!!

Whips resigning using the "F" word and then "un-resigning"

Home secretary gone!

 

I have to confess to a certain frisson of schadenfreude ....... 

 

Make no mistake - this started with Brexit - they called it "project fear"!

 

Edited October 19, 2022 by kwilco

[kwilco]

4 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

She doesn't seem to have the confidence of the Conservative party and She could very well lose her job on the near future

No Sh** Sherlock?????

[Mac Mickmanus]

10 minutes ago, kwilco said:

No Sh** Sherlock?????

Just replying to your claim that Truss is no longer PM and that Hunt has replaced her in a coup  

[2baht]

On 10/18/2022 at 10:25 AM, baboon said:

Maybe the election is to be held next week...?

Bring back Boz (Johnson), he's more entertaining! ????

[kwilco]

38 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Just replying to your claim that Truss is no longer PM and that Hunt has replaced her in a coup  

I have to say that I find your posts on this thread and on others extremely underwhelming. 

Your literal and naive interpretations of people's comments seem to belie a pitiful lack of understanding .... of just about anything being discussed. 

Edited October 19, 2022 by kwilco

[kwilco]

28 minutes ago, 2baht said:

Bring back Boz (Johnson), he's more entertaining! ????

He started all this.

[Mac Mickmanus]

9 minutes ago, kwilco said:

I have to say that I find your posts on this thread and on others extremely underwhelming. 

Your literal and naive interpretations of people's comments seem to belie a pitiful lack of understanding .... of just about anything being discussed. 

Says you who claims that the UK cannot find a New PM to replace Truss who has been removed in a coup !!!!!!!!!!!!!