Kwasaki Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, RayC said: Been a while since you played the 'Balotelli card'. In case you've forgotten, the 'Withdrawal Agreement' was agreed and signed off by your hero, Johnson, a Brexiter. Well yes otherwise the UK would be still trotting along and around wheat fields. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jak2002003 Posted December 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Kwasaki said: Including covid and war which also relavant why separate the causes just to blather on about one cause. Covid and war has also affected Europe...so why is the UK doing worse then evey other country in Europe? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Just now, jak2002003 said: Covid and war has also affected Europe...so why is the UK doing worse then evey other country in Europe? Just keep going around and around in circles : The UK isn't doing worse than every other Country in Europe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jak2002003 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Just keep going around and around in circles : The UK isn't doing worse than every other Country in Europe. Can you share a link to your statent please? Edited December 8, 2022 by jak2002003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, jak2002003 said: Can you share a link to your statent please? I have already posted graphs showing the UK is doing about in the middle , please read this thread , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jak2002003 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: I have already posted graphs showing the UK is doing about in the middle , please read this thread , Hmmmm... You want me to read through 50 pages in this thread to find a graph you say you posted.....? No thanks. As i guessed you could not be bothered to show me a link to support your claim. Here is a link to support mine. Does it take a moment...unlike reading through hundreds of posts. https://www.voanews.com/a/british-economy-worst-hit-in-g7-as-brexit-political-chaos-bite/6845814.html Edited December 8, 2022 by jak2002003 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 minute ago, jak2002003 said: Hmmmm https://www.voanews.com/a/british-economy-worst-hit-in-g7-as-brexit-political-chaos-bite/6845814.html Once again That is G7 and not the E.U G7 consists of 4 non E.U Countries 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jak2002003 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Once again That is G7 and not the E.U G7 consists of 4 non E.U Countries https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/nov/27/brexit-has-made-britain-the-sick-man-of-europe-again 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, jak2002003 said: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/nov/27/brexit-has-made-britain-the-sick-man-of-europe-again ^ A Remainer giving his view of Brexit in a remainer newspaper with its readers wanting to read anti brexit opinions 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Just keep going around and around in circles : The UK isn't doing worse than every other Country in Europe. Well, it depends how one looks at it, as it may vary over time. It's still worse than Eurozone and several countries for catching-up after the Codid crisis. https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02784/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, candide said: Well, it depends how one looks at it, as it may vary over time. It's still worse than Eurozone and several countries for catching-up after the Codid crisis. https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02784/ Yes, the UK had a higher growth previously , and so the fall seems greater http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN02784/assets/16e07b7d-1983-4b51-8fb6-c40b61a04f4a.png 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 27 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: ^ A Remainer giving his view of Brexit in a remainer newspaper with its readers wanting to read anti brexit opinions Truth hurts eh...so you go back to your deflection strategies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superal Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 European inflation rates 2022 Country Last Previous Reference Unit Liechtenstein 3 3.3 Oct/22 % Switzerland 3 3 Nov/22 % Luxembourg 6 6.9 Nov/22 % France 6.2 6.2 Nov/22 % Spain 6.8 7.3 Nov/22 % Malta 7.4 7.4 Oct/22 % Norway 7.5 6.9 Oct/22 % Albania 8.3 8.1 Oct/22 % Finland 8.3 8.1 Oct/22 % Cyprus 8.7 8.8 Nov/22 % Faroe Islands 8.8 7.3 Sep/22 % Greece 9.1 12 Oct/22 % Ireland 9.2 8.2 Oct/22 % Iceland 9.3 9.4 Nov/22 % Netherlands 9.9 14.3 Nov/22 % Portugal 9.9 10.1 Nov/22 % Euro Area 10 10.6 Nov/22 % Germany 10 10.4 Nov/22 % Slovenia 10 9.9 Nov/22 % Denmark 10.1 10 Oct/22 % Austria 10.6 11 Nov/22 % Belgium 10.63 12.27 Nov/22 % Sweden 10.9 10.8 Oct/22 % United Kingdom 11.1 10.1 Oct/22 % European Union 11.5 10.9 Oct/22 % Italy 11.8 11.8 Nov/22 % Russia 12.6 13.7 Oct/22 % Kosovo 12.7 12.7 Oct/22 % Croatia 13.2 12.8 Oct/22 % Slovakia 14.9 14.2 Oct/22 % Serbia 15 14 Oct/22 % Czech Republic 15.1 18 Oct/22 % Belarus 15.2 17.4 Oct/22 % Romania 15.32 15.88 Oct/22 % Montenegro 16.8 16 Oct/22 % Bosnia and Herzegovina 17.4 17.3 Oct/22 % Poland 17.4 17.9 Nov/22 % Bulgaria 17.6 18.7 Oct/22 % Macedonia 19.5 19.8 Nov/22 % Estonia 21.3 22.5 Nov/22 % Latvia 21.8 22.2 Oct/22 % Hungary 22.5 21.1 Nov/22 % Lithuania 22.9 23.6 Nov/22 % Ukraine 26.6 24.6 Oct/22 % Moldova 34.62 33.97 Oct/22 % Turkey 84.39 85.51 Nov/22 % 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, superal said: European inflation rates 2022 Country Last Previous Reference Unit Liechtenstein 3 3.3 Oct/22 % Switzerland 3 3 Nov/22 % Luxembourg 6 6.9 Nov/22 % France 6.2 6.2 Nov/22 % Spain 6.8 7.3 Nov/22 % Malta 7.4 7.4 Oct/22 % Norway 7.5 6.9 Oct/22 % Albania 8.3 8.1 Oct/22 % Finland 8.3 8.1 Oct/22 % Cyprus 8.7 8.8 Nov/22 % Faroe Islands 8.8 7.3 Sep/22 % Greece 9.1 12 Oct/22 % Ireland 9.2 8.2 Oct/22 % Iceland 9.3 9.4 Nov/22 % Netherlands 9.9 14.3 Nov/22 % Portugal 9.9 10.1 Nov/22 % Euro Area 10 10.6 Nov/22 % Germany 10 10.4 Nov/22 % Slovenia 10 9.9 Nov/22 % Denmark 10.1 10 Oct/22 % Austria 10.6 11 Nov/22 % Belgium 10.63 12.27 Nov/22 % Sweden 10.9 10.8 Oct/22 % United Kingdom 11.1 10.1 Oct/22 % European Union 11.5 10.9 Oct/22 % Italy 11.8 11.8 Nov/22 % Russia 12.6 13.7 Oct/22 % Kosovo 12.7 12.7 Oct/22 % Croatia 13.2 12.8 Oct/22 % Slovakia 14.9 14.2 Oct/22 % Serbia 15 14 Oct/22 % Czech Republic 15.1 18 Oct/22 % Belarus 15.2 17.4 Oct/22 % Romania 15.32 15.88 Oct/22 % Montenegro 16.8 16 Oct/22 % Bosnia and Herzegovina 17.4 17.3 Oct/22 % Poland 17.4 17.9 Nov/22 % Bulgaria 17.6 18.7 Oct/22 % Macedonia 19.5 19.8 Nov/22 % Estonia 21.3 22.5 Nov/22 % Latvia 21.8 22.2 Oct/22 % Hungary 22.5 21.1 Nov/22 % Lithuania 22.9 23.6 Nov/22 % Ukraine 26.6 24.6 Oct/22 % Moldova 34.62 33.97 Oct/22 % Turkey 84.39 85.51 Nov/22 % Yes, the UK is about in the middle . The above is the E.U , G7 isnt the E.U 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, superal said: European inflation rates 2022 Country Last Previous Reference Unit Liechtenstein 3 3.3 Oct/22 % Switzerland 3 3 Nov/22 % Luxembourg 6 6.9 Nov/22 % France 6.2 6.2 Nov/22 % Spain 6.8 7.3 Nov/22 % Malta 7.4 7.4 Oct/22 % Norway 7.5 6.9 Oct/22 % Albania 8.3 8.1 Oct/22 % Finland 8.3 8.1 Oct/22 % Cyprus 8.7 8.8 Nov/22 % Faroe Islands 8.8 7.3 Sep/22 % Greece 9.1 12 Oct/22 % Ireland 9.2 8.2 Oct/22 % Iceland 9.3 9.4 Nov/22 % Netherlands 9.9 14.3 Nov/22 % Portugal 9.9 10.1 Nov/22 % Euro Area 10 10.6 Nov/22 % Germany 10 10.4 Nov/22 % Slovenia 10 9.9 Nov/22 % Denmark 10.1 10 Oct/22 % Austria 10.6 11 Nov/22 % Belgium 10.63 12.27 Nov/22 % Sweden 10.9 10.8 Oct/22 % United Kingdom 11.1 10.1 Oct/22 % European Union 11.5 10.9 Oct/22 % Italy 11.8 11.8 Nov/22 % Russia 12.6 13.7 Oct/22 % Kosovo 12.7 12.7 Oct/22 % Croatia 13.2 12.8 Oct/22 % Slovakia 14.9 14.2 Oct/22 % Serbia 15 14 Oct/22 % Czech Republic 15.1 18 Oct/22 % Belarus 15.2 17.4 Oct/22 % Romania 15.32 15.88 Oct/22 % Montenegro 16.8 16 Oct/22 % Bosnia and Herzegovina 17.4 17.3 Oct/22 % Poland 17.4 17.9 Nov/22 % Bulgaria 17.6 18.7 Oct/22 % Macedonia 19.5 19.8 Nov/22 % Estonia 21.3 22.5 Nov/22 % Latvia 21.8 22.2 Oct/22 % Hungary 22.5 21.1 Nov/22 % Lithuania 22.9 23.6 Nov/22 % Ukraine 26.6 24.6 Oct/22 % Moldova 34.62 33.97 Oct/22 % Turkey 84.39 85.51 Nov/22 % So basically remainers are eluding themselves. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RayC Posted December 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Just keep going around and around in circles : The UK isn't doing worse than every other Country in Europe. And if we had remained in the EU, other things being equal, we would be doing better than our European neighbours. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, RayC said: And if we had remained in the EU, other things being equal, we would be doing better than our European neighbours. Pointless in thinking that way UK didn't remain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jak2002003 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said: ^ A Remainer giving his view of Brexit in a remainer newspaper with its readers wanting to read anti brexit opinions Wow. I see how it's all become like a religion to you. I think even if there were 100 percent unequivocally accurate facts to say leaving the EU was the main reason the UK is struggling more than other countries, you could not accept it. ???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Just now, jak2002003 said: Wow. I see how it's all become like a religion to you. I think even if there were 100 percent unequivocally accurate facts to say leaving the EU was the main reason the UK is struggling more than other countries, you could not accept it. ???? I think you are deluded how can there be 100% facts. Give it more time before UK gets the I told you so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 21 minutes ago, RayC said: And if we had remained in the EU, other things being equal, we would be doing better than our European neighbours. Who knows, but the UK left the E.U and now we are getting on with it and moving forward, rather than looking back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 3 hours ago, RayC said: Been a while since you played the 'Balotelli card'. In case you've forgotten, the 'Withdrawal Agreement' was agreed and signed off by your hero, Johnson, a Brexiter. Well who could forget that? The WA was just a slightly revised mess that was conceived by May and the EU. To restart the whole process would have taken another age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, jak2002003 said: Hmmmm... You want me to read through 50 pages in this thread to find a graph you say you posted.....? No thanks. As i guessed you could not be bothered to show me a link to support your claim. Here is a link to support mine. Does it take a moment...unlike reading through hundreds of posts. https://www.voanews.com/a/british-economy-worst-hit-in-g7-as-brexit-political-chaos-bite/6845814.html G7 is not the 27. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 21 minutes ago, jak2002003 said: Wow. I see how it's all become like a religion to you. I think even if there were 100 percent unequivocally accurate facts to say leaving the EU was the main reason the UK is struggling more than other countries, you could not accept it. ???? Of course I wouldn't accept that because it wouldn't be true . The UK ISNT struggling more than other Countries and the main two reasons for the current woes are Covid and Ukraine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, candide said: Well, it depends how one looks at it, as it may vary over time. It's still worse than Eurozone and several countries for catching-up after the Codid crisis. https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02784/ Q3 2022 compared with Q4 2019. Cherry picking at its pathetic zenith! ???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Just now, Mac Mickmanus said: Of course I wouldn't accept that because it wouldn't be true . The UK ISNT struggling more than other Countries and the main two reasons for the current woes are Covid and Ukraine It is, there are three reasons, you forgot brexit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, jak2002003 said: Hmmmm... You want me to read through 50 pages in this thread to find a graph you say you posted.....? No thanks. As i guessed you could not be bothered to show me a link to support your claim. If I keep posting the same graph over and over again, I will get in trouble or spamming . If you cannot be bothered to look through the thread, why should I be bothered to repost it again ? Another poster has kindly posted the graph again above . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, nauseus said: Q3 2022 compared with Q4 2019. Cherry picking at its pathetic zenith! ???? Zenith it not such a bad carburetor. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 27 minutes ago, nauseus said: G7 is not the 27. Nearly 1500 posts in this thread and there's still some confusion about the differences between the E.U and G7 and some posters dont realise that the statement *The U.K is doing worse than all the other E.U Countries because the U.K is at the bottom of a G7 list* makes no sense at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Yes, the UK had a higher growth previously , and so the fall seems greater http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN02784/assets/16e07b7d-1983-4b51-8fb6-c40b61a04f4a.png 18 minutes ago, nauseus said: Q3 2022 compared with Q4 2019. Cherry picking at its pathetic zenith! ???? It seems you (don't want to) understand. "Compared to the pre-pandemic level, UK GDP in Q3 2022 was 0.4% lower." It is not comparing the growth rate of Q3 2022 with the growth rate in Q4 2019, it is comparing the LEVEL (value) of GDP. It means the UK has still not caught up to the LEVEL of GDP it had at the end of 1999. In other words, the UK is 0.4% poorer (measured by GDP) than it was at the end of 1999, while the Eurozone or other countries listed have a higher GDP level than at the end of 1999. https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02784/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayC Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 46 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Who knows, but the UK left the E.U and now we are getting on with it and moving forward, rather than looking back Sunny uplands, here we come! Err.... any idea when we might arrive there? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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