New marijuana regulations could spell the end of vans selling weed, smoking cafes and online flowers

[JCauto]

5 hours ago, PJPom said:

All I can say is GOOD, how many others think legalising Cannabis was wrong.

I now wait to be told I am a boomer and know nothing.

That would be ageist and wrong. Discrimination against someone for any physical reason or for something they can't change like age is wrong. However, demonstrating your lack of knowledge through the words you type shows you are a know-nothing, at least as far as this particular topic is concerned. 

[khunjeff]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Thongchai said that marijuana flowers - that contain the most THC - are of most concern and must not be put in food. 

 

Any additives such as leaves must be clearly stipulated by restaurants.

<snip>

If food contains flowers consumers can prosecute restaurant and business owners. 

One of the most idiotic aspects of this whole "debate" must be the constant fear-mongering that weed is secretly being slipped into food and drink - as if any vendor would add an expensive ingredient without touting the fact and charging extra... 

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, Lemsta69 said:

This desire to turn Thailand into Singapore is, as we say in Australia, quite simply "rediculous".

...while the rest of the educated world says "ridiculous"!

Edited November 15, 2022 by Liverpool Lou

[Dogmatix]

This is a shame, albeit inevitable, given the backlash from conservatives.  Even though I have only indulged a couple of times since legalization, I liked the idea that stuffy, uptight Thailand had suddenly become the most liberal cannabis country in the world.  I think it was a great idea for tourism and that may all be killed now.

 

People who invested in shops off the main drag that never seem to have customers in them were probably dependent on online sales and may lose their investments now, if there is enforcement against online sales. However, this may be difficult when you look at the proliferation of online selling on FB and LINE by those who obviously don't shops and will be reluctant to give up this new source of income, while their customers will be relunctant to stop ordering low cost weed online. Considering that Thai police can't stop police selling illegal guns online, the prospect for stopping online sales of a legal product seems rather dismal. I guarantee that, if you google the right words in Thai, you will come across a short term pop up site selling illegal guns that will operate for a few days, make some money and then close down and pop up again somewhere else.  So why not with weed for which penalties will be much much less than for guns.

[robsamui]

In the last five months I shudder to think how many billions of baht has been invested in cannabis-related ventures, right through from sellers with carts on the street, up to fat cat politicians and police and army generals getting in on the act.

 

It seems evident that there already was a huge black economy already in place, with underground grow rooms and importers of "flowers" (!) selling widely online in the shadows - how else did so much stuff flood onto the open market within days of the legalisation back in June?

 

The elephant has been let into the room. No amount of blustering backtracking is going to change this - there's far too much money now tied up in it by important and influential people.

 

The laws will be tidied and neatened and made to look outwardly respectable and efficient, like everything else in Thailand - quite rightly, as in this case it was more-than-usual too fast and unthought-out to begin with . . . 

Then the laws will be ignored - except for the odd arrest here and there, publicised to make it look like everything is smooth and polished.

 

And life will go on - happily with the price of local-grown bud having dropped right down, seeing that just about everybody and his pet buffalo is now involved in one way or another in this typically Thai pantomome. God, but I love this country.
 

Edited November 15, 2022 by robsamui

[sead]

Of course. Now when all HISO ministers and big power boys  have put their shares in private and governmental production it's time to throw out the people and regulate sales. I knew this would happen and I said it from the start

[PremiumLane]

Why wasn't the whole process of legalizing and selling marijuana planned and implemented properly and not just rushed into with no thought.... oh wait

[Spock]

50 minutes ago, JCauto said:

That would be ageist and wrong. Discrimination against someone for any physical reason or for something they can't change like age is wrong. However, demonstrating your lack of knowledge through the words you type shows you are a know-nothing, at least as far as this particular topic is concerned. 

A boomer should no more not less about marijuana than any more recent age group.

[HappyExpat57]

So go to the doctor and spend 150 baht on a certificate stating you have glaucoma and need medicinal weed. Is that REALLY all that difficult? And the doctors could use the business as well. Win win!

[Spock]

48 minutes ago, khunjeff said:

One of the most idiotic aspects of this whole "debate" must be the constant fear-mongering that weed is secretly being slipped into food and drink - as if any vendor would add an expensive ingredient without touting the fact and charging extra... 

All this nonsense you read in here about a flower (@700 baht a gram) being slipped into food that is probably cheaper than the flower placed in it! Just astounds me how dangerous a tiny bit knowledge can be in the hands of the uneducated, including boomers who obviously failed to boom but should still know better. If a leaf or two had been slipped into anything, the imbiber would be none the wiser, but no one is going to waste an expensive bud sticking it in the food of some consumer. Why would they do it? What would they hope to gain? 

[Spock]

6 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

So go to the doctor and spend 150 baht on a certificate stating you have glaucoma and need medicinal weed. Is that REALLY all that difficult? And the doctors could use the business as well. Win win!

Yet another poster who obviously knows little about marijuana. The medicinal stuff is not going to have the kind of THC content that will remotely satisfy a serious recreational user.  You may indeed be a 'happyexpat' but it's not the result of indulging in weed.

[Lizzy Duang]

I am interested in using it for my migraine and see how it works, as all prophylaxis in the past 20 years has failed. Does anyone know a registered trustworthy source online or a shop in Pattaya?

[RichardColeman]

I am totally against smoking weed. Absolutely stinks. But if you smoke it half way up a mountain then good luck to you, you have my full support.

 

As for putting it in food and beer, then I have no issues with it, as it really is the same as alcohol.

 

Thais cannot handle alcohol they certainly will not handle weed. If they can prove they can cut road alcohol related deaths by 75% I think I would reconsider.

[LukKrueng]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

 

People have the right to complain and get action for annoyance and smell of ganja products in public places.

I've complaining for years about the smell of durian and they all laugh!!

And lucky I waited before buying the van...

Edited November 15, 2022 by LukKrueng

[JayBird]

If you can't smoke at home (condo, no balcony, kids or partner who can't stand the smell), can't smoke in public, cafe, or at the dispensary:. Where do you smoke?

[Spock]

5 minutes ago, JayBird said:

If you can't smoke at home (condo, no balcony, kids or partner who can't stand the smell), can't smoke in public, cafe, or at the dispensary:. Where do you smoke?

Good point. There are Condos such as Lumpini in Rangsit that don't even let you smoke on your own balcony, let alone inside. No use legalising it then preventing everyone from smoking it in public and almost in private.

[crazykopite]

First I don’t do any form of drugs unless coffee and alcohol fall into that category nor do I condem those who do it the ones I do condemn those who are dealers in hard drugs . Here on the islands there is now a weed shop on every corner in the last few months it has exploded a lot of Thais have placed big money on setting up business and have purchased buds at top prices and at the flick of a switch the Thai government decide they made yet another bad decision and or have already changed the rules so where does that lead us to in my humble opinion a great opportunity for the local police to go around demanding brown envelopes to ignore what’s going on it already happen in all the local lady bars Last week the law to allow foreigners to purchase freehold land this week it’s a change of law to put many Thais out of business by introducing stupid laws before they have been throughly looked into  “ Amazing Thailand “

[NickyLouie]

3 hours ago, jonclark said:

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but this will stop nothing, Cannabis will be regulated just like alcohol and cigarettes' which is a logical and sensible middle ground. Too many Thai people enjoy a good smoke and like cultivating it. 

 

The anti-weed haters and over zealous pro choice cannabis junkies will need to find an accommodation so we can all live together.  

 

It's actually the powerful medical industry pushing this new reform, they lost control of something they thought was their little CBD industry.

 

[brucegoniners]

These guys just can't make up their minds. And they wonder why attempts to get business to Thailand largely fails. First they go off half cocked and adopt an "anything goes" policy. Now they don't like what they decided.

 

This hurts businesspeople. You'd think they'd want to help them.

[bobbin]

It's simply astounding the amount of ignorance shown by the posters high-fiving each other at the thought of pushing that evil devil's lettuce back into the shadows..

 

That they all seem to completely lack the basic facts, i.e. cannabis is completely legal, is no deterrent to them.

 

Read the law and weep..

 

Those of us who do understand can't be bothered to keep trying to educate these people.

 

Reality will do that for us..

[Elkski]

11 minutes ago, bobbin said:

It's simply astounding the amount of ignorance shown by the posters high-fiving each other at the thought of pushing that evil devil's lettuce back into the shadows..

 

That they all seem to completely lack the basic facts, i.e. cannabis is completely legal, is no deterrent to them.

 

Read the law and weep..

 

Those of us who do understand can't be bothered to keep trying to educate these people.

 

Reality will do that for us..

It maybe legal to grow and possess but you shouldn't be able to cause me to suffer the smoke.  I'm a once every 2 year partaker with a sensitive nose.  Can I be assured you won't mind if I open a bottle of real skunk scent near you?   I'm thinking part of this crackdown is to protect those fixed shops owned by hiso people.   Is I don't think a soi full of lettuce vendors in vans and table would be much appreciated by your average tourist.  

On my upcoming visit where will I be able to smoke some of I buy it? 

Will the condos and hotel rooms that are supposed to be non smoking smell like it?  My nose can't be beat. 

 

 

 

 

[JimboB4]

Ok all Read all that and you could have cut the entire article and just wrote possible advertising restrictions instead of overdramatizing it. 

[MrJ2U]

In the meantime meth or YaBa is available everywhere. 

[JimboB4]

3 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

In the meantime meth or YaBa is available everywhere. 

So is cannabis still. It hasn’t gone anywhere nor is it going anywhere they just restricting advertising. 

[charmonman]

9 hours ago, PJPom said:

All I can say is GOOD, how many others think legalising Cannabis was wrong.

I now wait to be told I am a boomer and know nothing.

Hmmmm. I am also a boomer and smoking marijuana was pretty commonplace among people my age from high school on up and most would not think there was too much wrong with it. Are you sure you're a boomer?

[bangon04]

5 hours ago, ukrules said:

Interesting, the official facebook adverts for 'weed' do seem to have disappeared recently.

 

 

you mean this one?  https://prikpot.co.th/  haha

[bangon04]

3 hours ago, sead said:

Of course. Now when all HISO ministers and big power boys  have put their shares in private and governmental production it's time to throw out the people and regulate sales. I knew this would happen and I said it from the start

Anutin seems a bit quiet.......maybe he has no interest in the matter....

[asereg123]

5 hours ago, Snig27 said:

Germany legalised this week and the US Federal Govt is in the final stages.

Fake news. Germany has not legalized cannabis yet. Sadly...

[LukKrueng]

1 hour ago, crazykopite said:

it already happen in all the local lady bars Last week the law to allow foreigners to purchase freehold land

1. Prostitution has never been legal in Thailand.

2. The idea of allowing foreigners to buy plots of land has been floated many times in the past but has never materialized so far so there's no approval and then changes to such law.

 

As for cannabis - there was no changes to the laws of cannabis. It was simply removed from the list of category 5 drugs with few rules such as no under 20 (good), no pregnant / breast feeding women (would agree with this part IF same restrictions were put for sale and consumption of alcohol and cigarettes).

What happened is that many people interpreted the changes in regulation as cannabis is completely legal for any type of usage including recreational, which I think it should be. I think no one thought that the day it was removed from cat.5 list there will be so much demand and offers on the market. Technically it SHOULD have taken about 5  months from the announcement until LEGALLY grown cannabis hit the market.... 

[malibukid]

4 hours ago, Dogmatix said:

This is a shame, albeit inevitable, given the backlash from conservatives.  Even though I have only indulged a couple of times since legalization, I liked the idea that stuffy, uptight Thailand had suddenly become the most liberal cannabis country in the world.  I think it was a great idea for tourism and that may all be killed now.

 

People who invested in shops off the main drag that never seem to have customers in them were probably dependent on online sales and may lose their investments now, if there is enforcement against online sales. However, this may be difficult when you look at the proliferation of online selling on FB and LINE by those who obviously don't shops and will be reluctant to give up this new source of income, while their customers will be relunctant to stop ordering low cost weed online. Considering that Thai police can't stop police selling illegal guns online, the prospect for stopping online sales of a legal product seems rather dismal. I guarantee that, if you google the right words in Thai, you will come across a short term pop up site selling illegal guns that will operate for a few days, make some money and then close down and pop up again somewhere else.  So why not with weed for which penalties will be much much less than for guns.

they can't enforce the traffic laws here. total joke.