Former President Donald Trump files to run in 2024

[Eric Loh]

6 minutes ago, nauseus said:

A good start to his campaign then.

It's the same old re-cycled campaign that resulted in 3 losses.  Good start or bad omen. 

[Bkk Brian]

6 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Actually another poster stated how the last year had shown how we needed a mature President.

 

Biden was the President this last year and at 79 you could be kind and call him "mature". So I refuted his assertion. Hope that's OK boss...

I can see you're having problems with the truth now as well, this is what the other poster said:

 

"I think the international events of the past year have demonstrated precisely why it’s important to have an experienced President in the WH."

 

To which you replied with reference to Biden

 

One that doesn't know the difference between Cambodia and Columbia? 

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Fox News cut away from Trump's rambling presidential announcement speech after 40 minutes

 

"During his rambling, hourlong speech on Tuesday, Fox News cut away from Donald Trump's 2024 presidential campaign announcement after approximately 40 minutes.

The conservative news organization, which regularly promoted Trump's policies and hosted his speeches while he was president, cut away from the live remarks in favor of commentary about the former president's third bid for office."

Noticed an article on Fox News where they mention all the ongoing investigations into Trump and their prediction that Trump may seek emergency intervention measures from the Supreme Court in an attempt to temporarily block any release of his tax records—which likely will come under renewed scrutiny now that he decided to run for a third time.

 

Personally I see no choice for Trump than to run, its his only hope of keeping his head above water and not in jail.

[candide]

1 hour ago, proton said:

Not fair as the media were 95% against him for 4 years whatever he did, resulting in a vote against him by the easily led, rather than a vote for Biden.

So Trump's erratic behaviour and B.S. talking was not responsible for the bad coverage he had? What should the media do? Diffuse B.S. propaganda instead of checking facts and debunking B.S.

I guess you will also complain that CNN is being unfair to Trump for debunking the B.S. he just said?

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/11/15/politics/fact-check-trump-announcement-speech-2024/index.html

[JonnyF]

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I can see you're having problems with the truth now as well, this is what the other poster said:

 

"I think the international events of the past year have demonstrated precisely why it’s important to have an experienced President in the WH."

 

To which you replied with reference to Biden

 

One that doesn't know the difference between Cambodia and Columbia? 

Yes I paraphrased his post.

 

He said "I think the international events of the past year have demonstrated precisely why it’s important to have an experienced President in the WH."

 

I paraphrased that his position was "the last year had shown how we needed a mature President".

 

It was an accurate summary of what he said. I referenced Biden to contradict his position.

 

Remind me, how is that not truthful?

[nauseus]

5 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Trump claimed he filled the national oil reserve but Biden emptied it. The fact is that the national reserve was less when Trump left office than when he assumed it.

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/04/strategic-petroleum-reserve-oil-stocks-declined-under-trump-contrary-to-his-claim/

The SPR was only marginally less when Trump left office than when he assumed it and Trump's attempt to top it up in 2020 during the extreme low price period was blocked by congress.

 

The relevant fact is that Biden has squandered half of the rest already.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

Yes I paraphrased his post.

 

He said "I think the international events of the past year have demonstrated precisely why it’s important to have an experienced President in the WH."

 

I paraphrased that his position was "the last year had shown how we needed a mature President".

 

It was an accurate summary of what he said. I referenced Biden to contradict his position.

 

Remind me, how is that not truthful?

Better to remind me on why you choose to bring in Biden into a Trump thread?

[rgraham]

6 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

He is claiming that the US is a disaster and he was the only president to never have a war during his time in office, that the Ukraine war would never have happened and that the strategic oil reserves have been drained by Biden...this guy is taking pot shots at all.  He also has stated that North Korea never launched a missile while he was in office either.

 

https://www.everycrsreport.com/reports/R46349.html#_Toc39838318

My life was much better under the Trump administration than the current regime. Retirement savings have been cut in half.

[Chomper Higgot]

I wonder, has it not occurred to Trump and his supporters to look at the midterm results and see if they can spot any messages it might have for them?

 

 

[JonnyF]

11 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Better to remind me on why you choose to bring in Biden into a Trump thread?

The other poster referenced the last year, a mature president, and the white house.

 

Sounds like Biden to me.

 

Who did you think he was referring to?

[ozimoron]

23 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I can see you're having problems with the truth now as well, this is what the other poster said:

 

"I think the international events of the past year have demonstrated precisely why it’s important to have an experienced President in the WH."

 

To which you replied with reference to Biden

 

One that doesn't know the difference between Cambodia and Columbia? 

Trump doesn't know the difference between 5 miles and fifty miles!

[LosLobo]

9 minutes ago, rgraham said:

My life was much better under the Trump administration than the current regime. Retirement savings have been cut in half.

Co-incidental, comes to mind. Most of the world's lives and investments would have been better between 2016 and 2019 before COVID, supply change issues and Putin's war. Nothing to do with Trump!

 

Edited November 16, 2022 by LosLobo

[Lacessit]

6 minutes ago, rgraham said:

My life was much better under the Trump administration than the current regime. Retirement savings have been cut in half.

Exactly how did that happen, or are you blaming the current government for your own choices?

My retirement savings are the same as they were two years ago.

[ozimoron]

8 minutes ago, rgraham said:

My life was much better under the Trump administration than the current regime. Retirement savings have been cut in half.

Please explain how the stock market performance over this year has anything at all do do with the White House.

[proton]

1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said:

Ah so nice to see the ones fans already saying the election has been stolen hecause of the Trump Hate Media...so predictable and laughable. In Trumps speech he also blamed China for his election loss as well, you must be so happy @proton

He said many people thought China played an active role in the 2020 election. 

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, LosLobo said:

I suggest Putin didn't have a large enough war chest to fund his war when Trump was POTUS, and he was possibly waiting to see if his chosen candidate won in 2020. And if Trump had won, Trump would have supported his criminal mate against Ukraine and Nato.

 

When Trump failed to win in 2020, Trump tried to order an unplanned and an immediate withdrawal from Afghanistan to leave mess for Biden. 

 

The withdrawal was always going be problematic but one almost a year before Biden's planned one it would have been a chaotic disaster.

 

Trump secret memo ordering withdrawal from Afghanistan blindsided national security team: New Woodward/Costa book | CNN Politics

 

Fiction section.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

The other poster referenced the last year, a mature president, and the white house.

 

Sounds like Biden to me.

 

Who did you think he was referring to?

Again, the other poster did not reference a "mature president" He made no mention of any president. Paraphrasing inaccurately is no excuse for not quoting what he really said, its not exactly hard and exposes your attempt to hide the fact that it had nothing to do with a "mature president"

 

"I think the international events of the past year have demonstrated precisely why it’s important to have an experienced President in the WH."

 

 

[candide]

15 minutes ago, rgraham said:

My life was much better under the Trump administration than the current regime. Retirement savings have been cut in half.

How is it possible? Aren't your retirement savings indexed on the U.S. stock market?

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/stock-market

[nauseus]

13 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Exactly how did that happen, or are you blaming the current government for your own choices?

My retirement savings are the same as they were two years ago.

No 401k then?

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, nauseus said:

No 401k then?

Lots of people put their 401K into bonds when they saw that inflation was rising. They made out like bandits.

[candide]

13 minutes ago, proton said:

He said many people thought China played an active role in the 2020 election. 

He forgot Hugo Chavez, lol!

Anyway, the usual Trump m.o. : " people say...", " I've been told.." etc....

[nauseus]

4 minutes ago, candide said:

How is it possible? Aren't your retirement savings indexed on the U.S. stock market?

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/stock-market

 Depends which index they are linked to - NASDAQ down 30% since Jan 2021.

[nauseus]

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Lots of people put their 401K into bonds when they saw that inflation was rising. They made out like bandits.

And lots of people didn't.

[LosLobo]

4 minutes ago, candide said:

How is it possible? Aren't your retirement savings indexed on the U.S. stock market?

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/stock-market

I would suggest that a lot of elderly non-working retirees would have moved their funds to low interest non-risk investments such as cash when COVID hit and have not moved them back to stocks until the market stopped bouncing. 

 

Especially when they have no way of replacement of funds.

[nauseus]

55 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Living in a world of Trump lies has caused us all issues we need to avoid at all costs.

Like?

[Mavideol]

38 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

He said "I think the international events of the past year have demonstrated precisely why it’s important to have an experienced President in the WH."

was he referring to somebody else??? because it can't be him, as he has absolutely NO experience in politics

[nauseus]

51 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

It's the same old re-cycled campaign that resulted in 3 losses.  Good start or bad omen. 

It's actually different but never mind.

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1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Why would he not be concerned with his mental capacity if he thought he would consider the advice given to him carefully? That process of careful consideration requires mental capacity.

 

Think about it for a while before replying, I prefer not to explain it a third time.

It's a pity they don't make glasses for people who see things that aren't there.

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Like?

Rampant corruption in the white house and self dealing. Undermining democracy so they are never held to account.

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, nauseus said:

It's actually different but never mind.

No, the same, lies with MAGA fans lapping it up