4 minutes ago, tilaceer said:

Only the very confused would consider voting for that POS.

They are not necessarily confused, just so single track minded that there is no possibility of any facts changing their one track "minds" (probably better to interpret that as "a brain cell")!

8 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

You sound very confused, lets hope you vote for Trump in 2024.

So you believe that "confused" people should vote for Trump without knowing why!

Don't you think (sorry you're a Trump supporter) that "confused" people should be given the facts/evidence etc and once they are unconfused, they can then make a meaningful decision as to who to vote for!

1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said:

I just saw this report and started to laugh so hard. The Donald is so up the creek without a paddle and he just ensured he will be going to prison.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-says-he-openly-and-transparently-took-white-house-documents-2022-11

It's all the more funny as Trump will get a taste at his own medicine! ????

 

Citizen Trump may have broken a law that President Trump made a felony

"with trump’s signing s. 139 into law, that became: “ … shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than five years, or both.” and with that, it became a felony."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/10/trump-fbi-search-surveillance-law/

 

Off-topic posts and replies removed. 

 

Former President Donald Trump on Saturday flat-out called for the "termination" of the United States Constitution so that he could be returned to the presidency.

 

"So, with the revelation of MASSIVE & WIDESPREAD FRAUD & DECEPTION in working closely with Big Tech Companies, the DNC, & the Democrat Party, do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION?" Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform. "A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-coup-2658826898/

There is a method to Trump’s madness. He appears to believe there are enough voters who are themselves or are unbothered by racists, antisemites, white nationalists and election deniers to carry him through the GOP nomination campaign on his way to a rematch against President Joe Biden. Trump’s dinner last week with Fuentes and Ye was an appetizer for a presidential campaign that will likely try to consolidate the extremists in the party behind his candidacy. 

 

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3760823-trump-is-still-the-go-to-guy-for-gop-hate/

2 hours ago, ozimoron said:

There is a method to Trump’s madness. He appears to believe there are enough voters who are themselves or are unbothered by racists, antisemites, white nationalists and election deniers to carry him through the GOP nomination campaign on his way to a rematch against President Joe Biden. Trump’s dinner last week with Fuentes and Ye was an appetizer for a presidential campaign that will likely try to consolidate the extremists in the party behind his candidacy. 

 

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3760823-trump-is-still-the-go-to-guy-for-gop-hate/

They are him.

 

I exposed Nazis — I know it’s time to call out Trump | Donald Trump | Al Jazeera

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I exposed Nazis — I know it’s time to call out Trump

Trump’s meeting with open anti-Semites should disqualify him from the 2024 race. That it won’t reflects on the GOP.

 

 

3 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Former President Donald Trump on Saturday flat-out called for the "termination" of the United States Constitution so that he could be returned to the presidency.

 

"So, with the revelation of MASSIVE & WIDESPREAD FRAUD & DECEPTION in working closely with Big Tech Companies, the DNC, & the Democrat Party, do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION?" Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform. "A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-coup-2658826898/

What do you expect from the fascist leader of the American fascist party?

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

What do you expect from the fascist leader of the American fascist party?

What are you talking about? This supposed to be a fact based news forum. Trump was a freedom fighter, a champion of free speech, a champion of LESS govt intervention in our lives, the complete opposite of fascism. The most "fascistic" thing in American politics ever was Biden's attempt to create a real life Ministry of Truth to hide his corruption and punish honest voices, to allow vile self serving lies to flourish. Nothing even comes close to this pure evil. 

 

“Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing.”
George Orwell, 1984

7 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

What are you talking about? This supposed to be a fact based news forum. Trump was a freedom fighter, a champion of free speech, a champion of LESS govt intervention in our lives, the complete opposite of fascism. The most "fascistic" thing in American politics ever was Biden's attempt to create a real life Ministry of Truth to hide his corruption and punish honest voices, to allow vile self serving lies to flourish. Nothing even comes close to this pure evil. 

 

“Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing.”
George Orwell, 1984

Because trying to overturn an election through violence is not fascism?

8 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

What are you talking about? This supposed to be a fact based news forum. Trump was a freedom fighter, a champion of free speech, a champion of LESS govt intervention in our lives, the complete opposite of fascism. The most "fascistic" thing in American politics ever was Biden's attempt to create a real life Ministry of Truth to hide his corruption and punish honest voices, to allow vile self serving lies to flourish. Nothing even comes close to this pure evil. 

 

“Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing.”
George Orwell, 1984

You must have missed this:

Trump Wants to Censor the Media

The president’s call for a Senate investigation into news outlets for publishing unflattering stories about him is an attack on freedom of the press.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/10/trump-wants-to-censor-the-press/542142/

 

A Response to a Dumb Thing Donald Trump Said About the Internet

Maybe in certain areas closing that Internet up in some way [audience member cheers]… Somebody will say, ‘oh, freedom of speech, freedom of speech.’ These are foolish people. 

https://www.aei.org/technology-and-innovation/response-dumb-thing-donald-trump-said-internet/

 

 

21 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

What are you talking about? This supposed to be a fact based news forum. Trump was a freedom fighter, a champion of free speech, a champion of LESS govt intervention in our lives, the complete opposite of fascism. The most "fascistic" thing in American politics ever was Biden's attempt to create a real life Ministry of Truth to hide his corruption and punish honest voices, to allow vile self serving lies to flourish. Nothing even comes close to this pure evil. 

 

“Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing.”
George Orwell, 1984

How did you manage not to notice this?

 

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

How did you manage not to notice this?

 

Yes as long as he wins America is great if not he blasts it as unconstitutional.  He must think he is a King....

11 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You must have missed this:

Trump Wants to Censor the Media

The president’s call for a Senate investigation into news outlets for publishing unflattering stories about him is an attack on freedom of the press.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/10/trump-wants-to-censor-the-press/542142/

 

A Response to a Dumb Thing Donald Trump Said About the Internet

Maybe in certain areas closing that Internet up in some way [audience member cheers]… Somebody will say, ‘oh, freedom of speech, freedom of speech.’ These are foolish people. 

https://www.aei.org/technology-and-innovation/response-dumb-thing-donald-trump-said-internet/

 

 

Agree.  Many more examples.  Trump is easily the most anti-free speech President the USA has ever had.

6 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

Agree.  Many more examples.  Trump is easily the most anti-free speech President the USA has ever had.

But not if it's his free speech....he tweeted constantly and never acted very presidential during his time in office.

5 hours ago, Berkshire said:

Agree.  Many more examples.  Trump is easily the most anti-free speech President the USA has ever had.

That is not entirely true: everyone who agrees with him or kisses his ample behind can say whatever they want, no matter how racist, anti-semitic or homophobe it is, just as long as they don’t say anything bad about Trump. 

Trying to defend trump at this point is truly a thankless job. He reeks of guilt.

12 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Trying to defend trump at this point is truly a thankless job. He reeks of guilt.

That doesn’t stop some posters here from worshipping him like the second coming of Christ.

7 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

What are you talking about? This supposed to be a fact based news forum. Trump was a freedom fighter, a champion of free speech, a champion of LESS govt intervention in our lives, the complete opposite of fascism. The most "fascistic" thing in American politics ever was Biden's attempt to create a real life Ministry of Truth to hide his corruption and punish honest voices, to allow vile self serving lies to flourish. Nothing even comes close to this pure evil. 

 

“Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing.”
George Orwell, 1984

Well I’ll give you, Trump is fighting for his freedom.

7 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

What are you talking about? This supposed to be a fact based news forum. Trump was a freedom fighter, a champion of free speech, a champion of LESS govt intervention in our lives, the complete opposite of fascism. The most "fascistic" thing in American politics ever was Biden's attempt to create a real life Ministry of Truth to hide his corruption and punish honest voices, to allow vile self serving lies to flourish. Nothing even comes close to this pure evil. 

 

“Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing.”
George Orwell, 1984

And that is why this freedom fighter is promising to pardon all those who invaded the Capitol to stop the Constitutionally prescribed election process. MAGA!!!

37 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Trying to defend trump at this point is truly a thankless job. He reeks of guilt.

He reeks of a much stronger and unprintable word!

3 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

That doesn’t stop some posters here from worshipping him like the second coming of Christ.

He gives voice to their worst instincts. The SBC learned that a long time ago. The GOP played wit it like a kitten plays with a mouse but Trump finally said the quiet part out loud. They love him for it.

11 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

What are you talking about? This supposed to be a fact based news forum. Trump was a freedom fighter, a champion of free speech, a champion of LESS govt intervention in our lives, the complete opposite of fascism. The most "fascistic" thing in American politics ever was Biden's attempt to create a real life Ministry of Truth to hide his corruption and punish honest voices, to allow vile self serving lies to flourish. Nothing even comes close to this pure evil. 

 

“Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing.”
George Orwell, 1984

What a load of <deleted> rubbish.

 

You claim it, now back it up with links and facts.

10 hours ago, placeholder said:

How did you manage not to notice this?

 

There are none so blind as those who do not want to see.

Trump hasn't condemned antisemitism because he says anti-Semitic stuff all the time

 

MSNBC host Mehdi Hasan doesn't understand why people are confused that Donald Trump hasn't apologized for hanging out with Nazis and white supremacists at Mar-a-Lago.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-antisemitism/

After campaigning as the outsider who dared to say the tax system is unfair to the little guy, Trump won the presidency. 

 

And once in office, he cut taxes for the high-end investors and corporations. 

 

The same guy who bragged that only suckers pay taxes used his power to hammer the suckers again.

 

https://thehill.com/opinion/3761066-juan-williams-show-me-trumps-taxes/

8 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Trump hasn't condemned antisemitism because he says anti-Semitic stuff all the time

 

MSNBC host Mehdi Hasan doesn't understand why people are confused that Donald Trump hasn't apologized for hanging out with Nazis and white supremacists at Mar-a-Lago.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-antisemitism/

Indeed.

He is truly a despicaple human being and deserves no support from any decent American.

 

 

40 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

After campaigning as the outsider who dared to say the tax system is unfair to the little guy, Trump won the presidency. 

 

And once in office, he cut taxes for the high-end investors and corporations. 

 

The same guy who bragged that only suckers pay taxes used his power to hammer the suckers again.

 

https://thehill.com/opinion/3761066-juan-williams-show-me-trumps-taxes/

President bone spurs also called dead US soldiers ‘losers’ and ‘suckers’. He’s a real class act. It’s a mystery to me how anyone in the military could even consider to vote for Trump. 

2 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

President bone spurs also called dead US soldiers ‘losers’ and ‘suckers’. He’s a real class act. It’s a mystery to me how anyone in the military could even consider to vote for Trump. 

They're hoping not to have to vote. Conservatives know that they can't win the popular vote ever again. Even the gerrymanders are looking shaky. They going full fascist now. Trump wanting to suspend the constitution does not raise alarm bells for many.

I think there is no denying he is the worst but why does he still musters such massive support in the US? He is now openly courting white supremacists (as well as deranged hip hop stars), he has consistently denied the legitimacy of the 2020 elections, he instigated the storming of the capital and is currently defending no less than 19 legal actions. Now he is talking about changing the constitution for his own benefit. But none of it matters to his fan base who deflect, excuse or just simply bury their heads in the sand.

 

So what is it that appeals to quite so many that they will deny what they see with their own eyes or hear with thier own ears  in the defence of this man?