bbi1 Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 "Hello there, my family and I will be in Pattaya on xmas day and are trying to find out if any pubs do xmas lunch, or if any of the malls have something chistmassy going" I don't know if you realise, but Thailand is a Buddhist country, not a Christian country. They don't celebrate Xmas here. Malls - yes, they've got Xmas trees there. Is that "Christmassy" enough for you? Lunch - there's always loads of places that do lunches and buffets. Just pick what you like. 1 1
Dart12 Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Deserted said: In addition, I have had a quick look at all on offer linked to this thread, there is a bit of an issue in play that I completely forgot to mention. I am a vegetarian, and would ideally like to find someone who caters for vegetarians for xmas lunch. No luck at what I have looked at so far. It's a bit much to ask for 1-2k per person for a plate of vegetables as a substitute, so that's not really an option. You are paying for the experience and atmosphere on this day (which is why you are hunting for Christmas related only, right), not the food. IF just food you go to Soi Boukhao market and eat wildly for under 200 a pop. 3 hours ago, Jumbo1968 said: The bars and restaurants in the U.K. are very expensive on Christmas Day, it’s a holiday, the staff get double time, if they are on the minimum wage currently £10.90 meaning they will be on £21.80 on Christmas Day meaning lunch will be expensive. in Pattaya the staff will be on the Thai minimum wage 350 baht roughly bearing in mind Christmas Day is not a holiday in Thailand so there is no need to pay an enhanced rate to the staff. So why are Restaurants charging U.K. prices for Christmas Lunch ? Demand. If demand is high and supply low to get that 'holiday' experience, they will charge accordingly. Plus food, especially meat costs have risen dramatically as well.
Jumbo1968 Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Dart12 said: You are paying for the experience and atmosphere on this day (which is why you are hunting for Christmas related only, right), not the food. IF just food you go to Soi Boukhao market and eat wildly for under 200 a pop. Demand. If demand is high and supply low to get that 'holiday' experience, they will charge accordingly. Plus food, especially meat costs have risen dramatically as well. No they are exploiting the farang tourists, my idea of Christmas in Asia is sitting in the sun enjoying a beer not eating overpriced food in a bar/restaurant, I can do that in the U.K. 1 1
Dart12 Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 Just now, Jumbo1968 said: No they are exploiting the farang tourists, my idea of Christmas in Asia is sitting in the sun enjoying a beer not eating overpriced food in a bar/restaurant, I can do that in the U.K. Nobody is taking away your option. I personally haven't seen an event worth what they want either. But they are there if someone does. It's great to have options.
Dart12 Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 @ op. Central Festival mall is Christmasy inside with many decorations and Christmas music playing. Soi Boukhoa will have many many santas' helpers in costume that day too lol. if you have money, Royal Cliff Resorts is absolutely beautiful inside, high class affair with scenic views and a selection of different quality restaurants.https://www.royalcliff.com/whatsnew/
Jumbo1968 Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, Dart12 said: Nobody is taking away your option. I personally haven't seen an event worth what they want either. But they are there if someone does. It's great to have options. Yes it’s all about choice, I haven’t spent the Festive period in the U.K. since 2006, I have enjoyed my times in places not just Thailand in warmer climates. There is always talk of tourists being exploited by Thai people but foreign restaurants here are exploiting people even more charging for basically what is just a Sunday Lunch. 1
Deserted Posted December 6, 2022 Author Posted December 6, 2022 For those interested in the thread, and especially those with a family, there is something pretty big going on in Terminal21 this year. I have attached the link below with the details. https://www.terminal21.co.th/pattaya/event/gift-fest-2022-christmas-de-paris-2/
geisha Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 9 hours ago, Deserted said: In addition, I have had a quick look at all on offer linked to this thread, there is a bit of an issue in play that I completely forgot to mention. I am a vegetarian, and would ideally like to find someone who caters for vegetarians for xmas lunch. No luck at what I have looked at so far. It's a bit much to ask for 1-2k per person for a plate of vegetables as a substitute, so that's not really an option. So what do vegetarians have for Xmas lunch generally ? That would help knowing.
geisha Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 There is a vegetarian small restaurant further up from Friendship supermarket on the left side. Another one on Pratumnak Soi ???´Soi where the Russian market is. Very good both . Right side middle of soi going downhill.
hotandsticky Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 9 hours ago, PJ71 said: That's a lot, in essence, what is essentially a buffet. It isn't a buffet....I don't normally do buffets. Quality comes at a price. Outside what I would normally spend but Covid probably saved me £10,000 in travel costs so 5,000 Baht, plus another 3k for drinks, for 2 of us doesn't hurt my savings. Next year could be Cheap Charlie's 799 Baht - no doubt just as enjoyable with the right company. 1
IAMHERE Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 17 hours ago, blackshadow said: wrong in your head to pay nearly 60 quid !!!! Peer pressure. One of the things I liked about a Buddhist country is lack of people expecting me to join in the Xmas bruhaha.
Andycoops Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 13 hours ago, Jumbo1968 said: The bars and restaurants in the U.K. are very expensive on Christmas Day, it’s a holiday, the staff get double time, if they are on the minimum wage currently £10.90 meaning they will be on £21.80 on Christmas Day meaning lunch will be expensive. in Pattaya the staff will be on the Thai minimum wage 350 baht roughly bearing in mind Christmas Day is not a holiday in Thailand so there is no need to pay an enhanced rate to the staff. So why are Restaurants charging U.K. prices for Christmas Lunch ? Perhaps to make money... 1
jacko45k Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 Yes to all of the above......but bookings required and often, in the hotels, rather expensive with special gala nights. 1
TorquayFan Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 THANK YOU GUDERIAN - your post was just what I was looking for, being a stranger to Pattaya and visiting for Christmas. I hope you have a good time yourself, ATB
PJ71 Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 5 hours ago, hotandsticky said: It isn't a buffet....I don't normally do buffets. Every xmas lunch i've been to in Pattaya over the years at all the british style 'pubs' has been a buffet. I also don't do buffets, if i'm going out to eat i like to be served. 1 1
sandyf Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 21 hours ago, Deserted said: Hello there, my family and I will be in Pattaya on xmas day and are trying to find out if any pubs do xmas lunch, You could try Casa Pascal, nice restaurant with good food, Italian bias. https://www.restaurant-in-pattaya.com/xmas-lunch-2022
thaibeachlovers Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 18 hours ago, Deserted said: Yes of course but I take preference over personal recommendations than what google has to say. Personal recommendations are just that- personal. One persons wonderful meal may not be to the liking of another. Eg I like the Lek buffet breakfast, but many on here rubbish it. Up to you, but I'd just go with what seems good on the internet. 21 hours ago, Deserted said: if any of the malls have something chistmassy going on No doubt they will be playing Jinger bells etc and perhaps decorations and a tree or something like that, but don't expect too much. I recall that Royal Garden used to put up decorations outside that did for Xmas and New Year. Given covid and all that, who knows this year?
thaibeachlovers Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 8 hours ago, geisha said: So what do vegetarians have for Xmas lunch generally ? That would help knowing. In all my years in Pattaya I never noticed a resto that caters to vegetarians. I think I read that some Indian restaurants opened in Pattaya- if so they might do that.
Jumbo1968 Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 42 minutes ago, sandyf said: You could try Casa Pascal, nice restaurant with good food, Italian bias. https://www.restaurant-in-pattaya.com/xmas-lunch-2022 Am I reading the price right 2490 baht nearly £60 and that doesn’t include drinks ?
sandyf Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said: Am I reading the price right 2490 baht nearly £60 and that doesn’t include drinks ? Last time I bought Christmas lunch in UK it was just over £50/head and that was nearly 30 years ago. Since when did good European food come cheap, particularly this year. For many turkey will not be available at any price. Maybe you should stick to a Christmas kapao and a bottle of chang. 1
Jumbo1968 Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 1 minute ago, sandyf said: Last time I bought Christmas lunch in UK it was just over £50/head and that was nearly 30 years ago. Since when did good European food come cheap, particularly this year. For many turkey will not be available at any price. Maybe you should stick to a Christmas kapao and a bottle of chang. I can easily afford what ever it costs, I regularly had Christmas Lunch in the U.K., I expected to pay a premium because of the increased rate of pay for the staff, double time as it was a holiday. You say good European food, no it’s not it’s grown in Thailand, ok the Turkey might be imported, the staff if they are lucky will be on the Thai minimum wage so how can a restaurant justify charging European prices, it’s exploitation of foreigners by their own people.
paulbrow Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 So many cheap Charlies here! Yes, Thanksgiving and Christmas Hotel Buffets can be a bit expensive here, but the selections are spectacular! Hard to beat anywhere in the world. If you're on a 100 Baht budget, they aren't for you, but if you can squeeze out enough cash for the family and can make use of the "all you can eat" format, it's well worth the spend. And I'll close with a Merry Christmas to all! 1 1
Deserted Posted December 7, 2022 Author Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Jumbo1968 said: Am I reading the price right 2490 baht nearly £60 and that doesn’t include drinks ? Tried them already and they do cater for vegetarians but I won't be getting much change out of 10,000 baht which is a bit much for one meal.
Deserted Posted December 7, 2022 Author Posted December 7, 2022 9 hours ago, geisha said: So what do vegetarians have for Xmas lunch generally ? That would help knowing. Substitute the meat for a veggie patty or veggie bake, either would be fine. I have had that in London before.
JimmyJ Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 20 hours ago, Jumbo1968 said: ...in Pattaya the staff will be on the Thai minimum wage 350 baht roughly... About 40 THB/hour?
Dart12 Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 I think it's perfectly appropriate for these 2500 baht festive meals. However I do find it a bit appalling that they don't include a set of beverages along with that price. Granted, can't be open bar on everyything, but include SOMETHING!
Jumbo1968 Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 4 hours ago, JimmyJ said: About 40 THB/hour? https://wageindicator.org/salary/minimum-wage/minimum-wages-news/2022/minimum-wage-updated-in-thailand-from-01-october-2022-september-19-2022
thaibeachlovers Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 19 hours ago, Jumbo1968 said: I can easily afford what ever it costs, I regularly had Christmas Lunch in the U.K., I expected to pay a premium because of the increased rate of pay for the staff, double time as it was a holiday. You say good European food, no it’s not it’s grown in Thailand, ok the Turkey might be imported, the staff if they are lucky will be on the Thai minimum wage so how can a restaurant justify charging European prices, it’s exploitation of foreigners by their own people. Other than pointing out you don't have to pay large for the dinner- can go to ordinary resto ( never got the point of paying large to eat with people I don't know, but up to you ) have you considered that they have to make as much as possible in high season to tide them over the low season? Nothing unusual about that. 1
PJ71 Posted December 8, 2022 Posted December 8, 2022 21 hours ago, paulbrow said: So many cheap Charlies here! Yes, Thanksgiving and Christmas Hotel Buffets can be a bit expensive here, but the selections are spectacular! Hard to beat anywhere in the world. If you're on a 100 Baht budget, they aren't for you, but if you can squeeze out enough cash for the family and can make use of the "all you can eat" format, it's well worth the spend. And I'll close with a Merry Christmas to all! Buffets are not worth the money IMO, having to serve yourself with luke warm, soggy food - no thanks. I've been to some of the better ones, Hilton, Mantra ( 6K a head ) and they're not 'spectacular'. 1
sandyf Posted December 8, 2022 Posted December 8, 2022 On 12/7/2022 at 10:06 AM, Jumbo1968 said: I can easily afford what ever it costs, I regularly had Christmas Lunch in the U.K., I expected to pay a premium because of the increased rate of pay for the staff, double time as it was a holiday. You say good European food, no it’s not it’s grown in Thailand, ok the Turkey might be imported, the staff if they are lucky will be on the Thai minimum wage so how can a restaurant justify charging European prices, it’s exploitation of foreigners by their own people. You are perfectly free to believe European restaurants will be charging an equivalent price for Christmas lunch, watch out for the low flying pigs. Fairly obvious you have never been to the restaurant.
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