Crackdown on illegal immigration - Indian on 974 day overstay nabbed after information from spy

[webfact]

Picture: Siam Rath

 

Immigration in Chaiyaphum, NE Thailand, acted on information from a secret informant and arrested an Indian national on a long overstay in the kingdom.

 

This appeared to be part of a crackdown on illegal immigration from December 1st to 10th that has seen a raft of stories on ASEAN NOW in the last few days. 

 

On this occasion immigration were working with the Kaset Somboon police and tourist police, reported Siam Rath.

 

Picture: Siam Rath

 

Harivansh Kumar, 27, an Indian, was found to be on a 974 day overstay and arrested.

 

He was detained by the Kaset Somboon police.  

 

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[Don Chance]

How much do snitches get in Thailand. Is it like crime stoppers?

[brianthainess]

31 minutes ago, webfact said:

Harivansh Kumar, 27, an Indian, was found to be on a 974 day overstay and arrested.

So he's been here since he was around 24 yrs old, just how has he been supporting himself ? Scammer ? 

[ezzra]

Not that i condone overstaying but there are millions of illegal workers and stayers from neighbouring countries in Thailand working illegally some  commit crimes and engage in illegal activities hardly ever get caught while never paying one baht in any taxes....

[BritScot]

Spy I think not, Grass maybe!

[recom273]

3 hours ago, brianthainess said:

So he's been here since he was around 24 yrs old, just how has he been supporting himself ? Scammer ? 

I’m surprised how many Indians and Burmese work out in the villages - Indians are money lenders (idk, maybr have some kind of residence) or have a Roti cart outside 7-11s You see posts here about westerners scared to cut their own grass, if you look closely there are Burmese that have stalls at the travelling markets in Issan. I don’t know how you can get a work permit to sell coconuts on the side of the road, but my Burmese buddy does it. 

[bradiston]

3 hours ago, ezzra said:

Not that i condone overstaying but there are millions of illegal workers and stayers from neighbouring countries in Thailand working illegally some  commit crimes and engage in illegal activities hardly ever get caught while never paying one baht in any taxes....

Most get paid peanuts, are treated like cxxx, and are held until they can pay off the extortionate sums involved in getting into Thailand and getting a job the Thais would never dream of doing themselves. It's one of those industries which is a huge source of wealth for the people smugglers aka human traffickers. Out of the millions, how many commit serious crimes? It's typical European "blame it on the immigrant" mentality. If you won't do the work yourself, how can you complain if somebody far less well off than yourself, is prepared to sacrifice everything to do it?

 

Anyway, I don't know what this guy was doing here and I don't consider it any of my business. But then, I don't know what anyone, apart from a few close friends, is doing here. He's 27, a long way from home, and has been grassed up by some grudged up snitch after presumably leading a blameless life here for 3 years. Why pick on him?

[Gottfrid]

We can clearly see that the guy lost his gold necklace. Probably never got anything on insurance and couldn´t afford to go home. 

Anyway, now he will get free food and sleeping floor and a possibility to clean toilets.

[bradiston]

19 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

We can clearly see that the guy lost his gold necklace. Probably never got anything on insurance and couldn´t afford to go home. 

Anyway, now he will get free food and sleeping floor and a possibility to clean toilets.

I know you're not German, Gottfrid, but I once "lent" 1000 THB to a German in the immigration detention centre to supposedly help him sort out his problems. He swore he'd return it. Never heard from him again. There are illegal immigrants, Gotters me old mate, and then there are complete cxxxx.

[Bim Smith]

5 hours ago, Don Chance said:

How much do snitches get in Thailand. Is it like crime stoppers?

It was a spy. I hear Jonny English was over on holiday 

[Bim Smith]

We have a guy from Pakistan selling Roti on a stall on our local market. The locals have asked him how he can work and he tells them he has a work permit. Guess he won't last long here 

[bradiston]

43 minutes ago, Bim Smith said:

We have a guy from Pakistan selling Roti on a stall on our local market. The locals have asked him how he can work and he tells them he has a work permit. Guess he won't last long here 

Similar story where I have a house in the south east. But locals there appreciate his rotis much more than worrying about whether he has a WP or not. And of course the local old bill have a great fondness for the banana and condensed milk concoction, so what's not to like? Until somebody decides they can "do a Thai" on him, grass him up, shut him down, then reopen the business with a lazy nephew who cocks it all up, never to be found, "cannot" mentality.

[Gottfrid]

1 hour ago, bradiston said:

I know you're not German, Gottfrid, but I once "lent" 1000 THB to a German in the immigration detention centre to supposedly help him sort out his problems. He swore he'd return it. Never heard from him again. There are illegal immigrants, Gotters me old mate, and then there are complete cxxxx.

Very relevant to the topic, dude. Why do you lend money to a total stranger? That´s just plain stupid.

[mikeymike100]

Obviously a 'serious threat' to Thailand, kick him out and blacklist him!????

[bangon04]

6 hours ago, brianthainess said:

So he's been here since he was around 24 yrs old, just how has he been supporting himself ? Scammer ? 

Good question - not allowed to be a taxi driver.....

[RichardColeman]

Pretty sure if they investigated the thousands of Indian tailors in Pattaya and BKK, they would find thousands of Indian overstayers !!!

[Mad mick]

Just tip of the ice burg must be millions on overstays from all over the world in 100s of County's not just Thailand 

Edited December 7, 2022 by Mad mick

[soalbundy]

20 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Very relevant to the topic, dude. Why do you lend money to a total stranger? That´s just plain stupid.

It happens. A German friend of mine experienced, as he put it, the worst day of his life. His wallet with money and cards was stolen from his back pocket at swampy as he was leaving to return home, he still had his passport and air ticket but that was all. To make matters worse he had contacted an STD which was staining his white trousers with a yellow patch. He had a fever, was tired and had a hangover. The most immediate problem however was he didn't have the 500 Baht to pay the departure tax as it was then (about 20 years ago). In desperation he walked into a bank to see if he could get a small loan on the strength of his passport alone, this wasn't possible of course but the 40 year old male bank teller upon hearing his story took pity on him especially when my friend promised to transfer 10 times that amount to the Thai man's bank account when he was back in Germany, the bank teller lent him the 500 Baht and my friend was true to his word.

[soalbundy]

6 minutes ago, bangon04 said:

Good question - not allowed to be a taxi driver.....

But he could knock up a good suit.

[recom273]

2 hours ago, Bim Smith said:

We have a guy from Pakistan selling Roti on a stall on our local market. The locals have asked him how he can work and he tells them he has a work permit. Guess he won't last long here 

Surprisingly, there’s one Indian roti seller at the 7-11 in rural Khon Kaen, we are about 30km from town, he’s been there, every night for a year already. I really don’t think the average Thai knows enough about immigration law or work permits to report him, tbh, the nearest police box is 10km down the road and there is one high ranking guy who lives in the village, that probably just wants an easy life. It probably doesn’t dawn on them that he’s illegal, besides if he wasn’t there there would be no roti and that would be a major loss to the community.
 

People ask why do I not help my wife with her business, when she is lugging boxes about moaning, and it surprises them when I tell them the conditions of my visa. 

[soi3eddie]

3 hours ago, BritScot said:

Spy I think not, Grass maybe!

Was expecting to see the term "smart car" until geeting to the bit about "spy". 

 

[bradiston]

1 hour ago, Gottfrid said:

Very relevant to the topic, dude. Why do you lend money to a total stranger? That´s just plain stupid.

Ah right, the voice of sanity. It was early days in my visits to Thailand. 1986 to be precise. I was still full of bonhomie and... Well you might have your own word for it. Taking pity on a fellow traveller's plight. Never mind. It'll obviously never happen to you.

[NE1]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

This appeared to be part of a crackdown on illegal immigration from December 1st to 10th that has seen a raft of stories on ASEAN NOW in the last few days. 

Why do they have crackdowns for a limited time ?

It is like they are telling everybody that we are only bothered a couple of weeks in the year.

[ThailandRyan]

7 hours ago, brianthainess said:

So he's been here since he was around 24 yrs old, just how has he been supporting himself ? Scammer ? 

Selling suits.......just a guess.

[ThailandRyan]

54 minutes ago, Mad mick said:

Just tip of the ice burg must be millions on overstays from all over the world in 100s of County's not just Thailand 

No such thing as overstaying in 100's of county's but you could try.

[Mickeymaus]

I know 7 overstayers. I never would report them. They pay good money every month ????????????????. No, but normally it could work like this here. 

[Orinoco]

8 hours ago, Don Chance said:

How much do snitches get in Thailand. Is it like crime stoppers?

Most likely did it for free,.

It's the Hub of snitches.

[roger101]

I knew somebody years ago in Chang Mai who had been here for years on overstay.

His sister sent him money every month for him to get by but not enough to pay for the airfare to get home and pay the 20,000 Baht fine at the airport.

When I meet my wife I lost contact with him. I never read in the Bangkok Post about him being arrested on overstay so I presume somebody lent him enough money for flight and fine. One of the nicest people I meet here. Not all over stayers are criminals just victims of circumstance.

[PETERTHEEATER]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

........acted on information from a secret informant.......

The smart BMW was in for service that day?

[Mickeymaus]

23 minutes ago, Orinoco said:

Most likely did it for free,.

It's the Hub of snitches.

Sometimes they find criminals hiding here. In addition there are other questions - how do these people survive so long here? Could be selling drugs or whatever other illegal activity. Not every overstayer is a nice pensioner that forgot to extend his visa. They have to check such people. 

 

Edited December 7, 2022 by Mickeymaus