jvs Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 25 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: If dangerous dogs were banned, and people turned to non-dangerous dogs for pets, where would the problem be? Bear in mind that while you maybe need to imagine that these dogs are tortured into monsters to act this way, the reality is that they are treated the same as any other dog, but they have an innnate danger due to their genetics. We were not talking about dangerous dogs as such but Pitbulls. And yes people would look for another dangerous breed if Pittbulls were banned,happened in a few countries already. They can be good dogs,in the right hands. 1 1
BestB Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 23 minutes ago, pomchop said: IF you can read you will find story after story week after week from all over the world with similar stories about "sweet friendly pit bulls" who attack savagely or even kill their owners, kids, strangers, other dogs etc....you are correct that the owners have no knowledge of the breed or they would never own such a dangerous dog and allow it the opportunity to kill or maim. Maybe they an also have a pet cobra and allow it to attack people because it is so sweet and never attacked before it did. Cue the pitbull defenders with their stories that their pit bull is so sweet. what you read is what journalist wrote up from what he/she understood, assuming people telling the story were actually telling the whole truth. Just like a story of a pitbul that attacked owner who was sleeping and his wife had no idea why, only pics of the scene showed little different scenario, such as dog being chained and empty alcohol bottles all over the place. 1 1
Orinoco Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 40 minutes ago, Phnom Penh Trader said: Are you not aware that you are living in a Buddhist country? They are only Buddhist in name. Been down the local slaughterer house lately ? 1
Orinoco Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 18 minutes ago, roo860 said: Kill all the people? Maybe you should not be in charge of anything more than a cuckoo clock. you sound a bit dangerous to hold any position higher.
Orinoco Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 37 minutes ago, Phnom Penh Trader said: Granny? No, No , No They sell everything and there Granny here.
Popular Post Bert got kinky Posted December 10, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 10, 2022 28 minutes ago, Phnom Penh Trader said: I would take them no problem in a heartbeat and guess what? I would have no problems whatsoever with them! So why don't you take these cuddly pets off their bandaged hands then? 3
chilli42 Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 I admit to being overly fond of dogs and have lived around wild animals most of my life. Sadly, once any animal has crossed the threshold and attacked humans in this way, it can never be trusted again. There are few options going forward the kindest being to put Pepo down. Hope they do the right thing … or count on a repeat performance in the future. 2
Dustdevil Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 Needs a new home?! I'm sure everyone's clamoring for the poor pooch.
BestB Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, Bert got kinky said: So why don't you take these cuddly pets off their bandaged hands then? A perfect example of clueless. Pitbuls are extremally loyal dogs who get attached to 1 owner. Taking him now would be very hard for both new owner and the dog. Dog will not recognise knew owner as an owner or leader of the pack, it will take time and hard work to bond with a grown dog. and would require someone who has extensive experience with this breed and does not have any other animals as grown pitbuls known NOT to get along with other pets, especially if not raised with other pets. Dog needs professional trainer assessment before it can be rehomed to see if it is even possible 1
Popular Post Bert got kinky Posted December 10, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, BestB said: A perfect example of clueless. Pitbuls are extremally loyal dogs who get attached to 1 owner. Taking him now would be very hard for both new owner and the dog. Dog will not recognise knew owner as an owner or leader of the pack, it will take time and hard work to bond with a grown dog. and would require someone who has extensive experience with this breed and does not have any other animals as grown pitbuls known NOT to get along with other pets, especially if not raised with other pets. Dog needs professional trainer assessment before it can be rehomed to see if it is even possible The poster that I replied to stated the following: I would take them no problem in a heartbeat and guess what? I would have no problems whatsoever with them! So, now who is clueless? 1 2 2
swm59nj Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 Someone will be ignorant enough to adopt it. I can’t wait for part two of this story 1 1
BritScot Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Robin said: Was he dog castrated as a puppy? probably too late to do it now Why? You can do it at any age. In my opinion if the dog is not for breeding should be done after 6 months.
Popular Post oobar Posted December 10, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, BestB said: A perfect example of clueless. Pitbuls are extremally loyal dogs who get attached to 1 owner. Taking him now would be very hard for both new owner and the dog. Dog will not recognise knew owner as an owner or leader of the pack, it will take time and hard work to bond with a grown dog. and would require someone who has extensive experience with this breed and does not have any other animals as grown pitbuls known NOT to get along with other pets, especially if not raised with other pets. Dog needs professional trainer assessment before it can be rehomed to see if it is even possible It doesn't matter if pitbulls are loyal and become attached to a single person. This is a common attribute among many dogs of many breeds and mixes, and is beside the point anyway. As a longtime dog breeder and owner, I've said before, as an example, that an Irish Setter whose ancestry hasn't hunted for a hundred generations will still go on point if it happens upon the scent of a quail. But pointing at a quail does not result in kids and adults being ripped to pieces, which will happen again with this pitbull if it is not euthanized. 2 1 1
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted December 10, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 10, 2022 Let us be frank about what this monster needs. It needs to be executed, ASAP. No domesticated creature should be given the right to savage humans. Period. Zero tolerance should be the law. An animal attacks a human in a vicious fashion, and he should always be put down. The sooner the better. Otherwise, we know what he will do. Continue his savagery. Only the snowflakes amongst us will argue against this. 2 1 1
BritScot Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 2 hours ago, BangkokReady said: Ah, they hadn't carried out the years of special training and constant careful handling that is apparently required to stop these dogs from killing people. How silly of them. Clearly their fault, not the fact that the dog is bred to kill at all... /s Yes it is their fault! People should be licenced to have a dog. Trying starts at very young age which involves lots of effort mixing socialising new situations new noises smells and people. They require a good structure and should never be the alpha. On a side note you are aware that the American Pitbull was called The Nanny Dog!
dallen52 Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 Needs a lead aspro. One breed the world can do without. 1
Popular Post Bert got kinky Posted December 10, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Phnom Penh Trader said: You’ve never owned one so have no experience to draw on to comment,not really rocket science is it? Considering that I live literally 2 minutes away from where these vicious killing machines are housed, I have more right to comment on this case than you do. 1 2 1
Popular Post Spock Posted December 10, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Phnom Penh Trader said: Are you not aware that you are living in a Buddhist country? That's probably the only reason why authorities have not stepped in and put the dog down. In most other countries, the dog would be removed from the home and euthanised. I love dogs but a pit bull with a history of aggression against people it should love should not be allowed to live. Don't understand why pit bull and huskies are so favoured in SEA. People are not prepared to do the necessary training to safely raise a dog, and caging them is not going to help the situation at all. 2 1
Mywayboy Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 4 hours ago, ezzra said: Surly you'r joking yes? offering a viscous dog as a pet or as a pet's meat.... Green Dream only solution.
Popular Post khunPer Posted December 10, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 10, 2022 4 hours ago, greenmonkey said: My honest opinion is that Thai's can't really be trusted to keep anything bigger than a chihuahua. I was attacked and bitten in the leg by my next door neighbour's Chihuahua when they left their gate open... 3
connda Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 It never ends. Pit Bulls, Dobermans and German Shepherds all need training as well as an owner(s) who can control the dog. I've been threatened by everyone of those breeds in the owners home (all in the US) after the owner assured me that their dog was just super friendly and wouldn't hurt a fly. Show weakness and you've got a problem. You never put yourself in a submissive posture with any of those dogs. I don't deal with them any more. Just don't put yourself in the position to be attacked. Most of us can show enough dominance to these dogs to make them back off. Who do they prey on? Anyone showing weakness: elderly, young, disabled. Look at who got attacked here? Surprised? I've been attacked by soi dogs here in Thailand. I've made everyone of them back off. I've known too many people who have these breeds of dogs. "Oh Killer, Fang, and Shredder are just super friendly and wouldn't hurt a fly." That's all BS. These people have no control over their animals. What's worse? Is their a civil court in Thailand (with a jury) who would award damages for a dog attack? In the US there is. Thailand. "Oh, Killer bite you? Here's 3,000 THB. <Wai> Everything is all good now, mai?" No, there isn't a court system that will administer significant damages.. (Look at Vorayuth Yoovidhya 'compensation for killing a police officer. What an elitist joke). When Fang bites, Shredder shreds, and Killer kills - a few thousand THB is suppose to paper over an lifetime of damage. However, if you're a foreigner and you inadvertently touch a Thai HiSo woman? They need hundreds of thousands or millions in compensation. Bottom line: Don't put yourself or your kids or your grandparents in harms way. "How would you know Mr. Smarty Pant "Expert." I've got eight dogs. A couple of them are dangerous, which is why we have them. A couple more I don't trust with anyone inside the fence unless my wife or I am around. But they are fenced and they are territorial. We have a series of fences. Just don't be in the wrong fence uninvited. We are VERY upfront with people about that. The outside perimeter is always locked. We are REALLY upfront with people about that. If we let you in - don't wander. There is no - "Ohhhhh Skippy is just a sweetheart and wouldn't hurt a fly." Nope - Skippy and her partner will do damage. Don't wander! Don't have dogs you can not control, especially those breeds. And don't be ignorant. And if your dog attacks anyone who was invited on to your property? Control your dogs and take responsibility if things go south. 1
BestB Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 57 minutes ago, Bert got kinky said: The poster that I replied to stated the following: I would take them no problem in a heartbeat and guess what? I would have no problems whatsoever with them! So, now who is clueless? so you insinuating you have a clue about dogs and this particular breed?
Popular Post Bert got kinky Posted December 10, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BestB said: so you insinuating you have a clue about dogs and this particular breed? No, where did i say that? I was replying to a poster that thinks that he could take and control these 2 dogs. Please read and at least try to understand the posts before commenting. Edited December 10, 2022 by Bert got kinky 3
BestB Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) 48 minutes ago, oobar said: It doesn't matter if pitbulls are loyal and become attached to a single person. This is a common attribute among many dogs of many breeds and mixes, and is beside the point anyway. As a longtime dog breeder and owner, I've said before, as an example, that an Irish Setter whose ancestry hasn't hunted for a hundred generations will still go on point if it happens upon the scent of a quail. But pointing at a quail does not result in kids and adults being ripped to pieces, which will happen again with this pitbull if it is not euthanized. case in point of clueless. No, this is not common among many breeds. Each breed has its individual characteristics and attributes. Your notion that pitbuls somehow attacks because few decades ago someone somewhere bred them to be fighting dogs is beyond idiotic. Pitbuls are strong dogs, and naturally a bite from a poodle does not compare to strength and a bite from a pitbul. Just as Golden can attack in same manner as Pitbul, only damage from a Pitbul would be by far worse than Golden Edited December 10, 2022 by BestB
BestB Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 s 3 minutes ago, Bert got kinky said: No, where did i say that? I was replying to a poster that thinks that he could take and control these 2 dogs. Please read and at least try to understand the posts before commenting. 2 dogs? where did other dog come from?
oobar Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, BestB said: case in point of clueless. No, this is not common among many breeds. Each breed has its individual characteristics and attributes. Your notion that pitbuls somehow attacks because few decades ago someone somewhere bred them to be fighting dogs is beyond idiotic. Pitbuls are strong dogs, and naturally a bite from a poodle does not compare to strength and a bite from a pitbul. Just as Golden can attack in same manner as Pitbul, only damage from a Pitbul would be by far worse than Golden Like many people, you really don't seem to know much about dogs. 1
BestB Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, oobar said: Like many people, you really don't seem to know much about dogs. seems your knowledge about people is on par with knowledge about dogs, somewhere between zero and less than zero
Popular Post pomchop Posted December 10, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Phnom Penh Trader said: But I’ve owned one and never been attacked,whereas you have never owned one who is more qualified to comment here on that basis? i don't have to own a cobra to know to not want one around...I don't have to play with fire to know you can get burned. I have driven a car and never had a wreck So what. .i would bet almost all pit owners had never been attacked...until they were. 1 1 1
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