Thai immigration on alert for foreigners staying under false pretences

[webfact]

Picture: Siam Rath

 

Siam Rath reported that Region 5 immigration chief Pol Maj-Gen Suphanat Charoenreuangsakun had ordered 17 immigration departments and one border crossing to be on the watch out for migrants and foreigners staying in Thailand under false pretences. 

 

Heads of educational institutes and foundations joined in the drive at Phetchabun immigration HQ yesterday signing memoranda of understanding.

 

This followed work done by immigration with various state and private agencies to explain the rules about hiring foreign staff. 

 

It also comes after it was discovered that potentially thousands of Chinese nationals were granted bogus student visas in a scandal rocking the IB, notes ASEAN NOW. 

 

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[proton]

Does false pretences include extensions obtained by corruption from a province holders do not live in I wonder? or will they continue to turn a blind eye.

[Gottfrid]

Good!

[Kwasaki]

What's new,  my one year marriage extension was about 8 papers and copies, now 40 or so now. 

[Aussieroaming]

Student visas and volunteer visas seem to be pretty well abused along with the plethora of Covid extensions that were granted. It would be easier just to issue younger people a long term visa as long as they have funds.

[nigelforbes]

1 hour ago, Kwasaki said:

What's new,  my one year marriage extension was about 8 papers and copies, now 40 or so now. 

Soon to be 50 pages, and in triplicate.

[metisdead]

An off topic post and a reply about UK immigration has been removed.

[HappyExpat57]

Isn't that their job to begin with? That's like telling water, "You better run downhill now!"

 

 

Edited December 23, 2022 by HappyExpat57
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[bangon04]

1 hour ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Isn't that their job to begin with? That's like telling water, "You better run downhill now!"

"had ordered 17 immigration departments and one border crossing to be on the watch out for migrants and foreigners staying in Thailand under false pretences. "

 

they are a type of police, so it is normal in Thailand to order the police to do the jobs they are paid for.  Short-term solution only......

[Kwasaki]

2 minutes ago, bangon04 said:

"had ordered 17 immigration departments and one border crossing to be on the watch out for migrants and foreigners staying in Thailand under false pretences. "

 

they are a type of police, so it is normal in Thailand to order the police to do the jobs they are paid for.  Short-term solution only......

I think you'll find the immigration police the top country police in Thailand.

[bangon04]

1 minute ago, Kwasaki said:

I think you'll find the immigration police the top country police in Thailand.

maybe... but this fact is not very re-assuring......

[Kwasaki]

2 minutes ago, bangon04 said:

maybe... but this fact is not very re-assuring......

What do you expect TiT. ????????

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 hours ago, Aussieroaming said:

Student visas and volunteer visas seem to be pretty well abused along with the plethora of Covid extensions that were granted. It would be easier just to issue younger people a long term visa as long as they have funds.

Thailand doesn't want those young people staying in Thailand for a prolonged time with no reason to be there apart from "I like it here and the weathers nice and the foods cheap and the females are easy to have sex with" .

  Unless you fit onto category of visas offered , work, family or retied then you aren't welcome to stay long term 

[Kwasaki]

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Thailand doesn't want those young people staying in Thailand for a prolonged time with no reason to be there apart from "I like it here and the weathers nice and the foods cheap and the females are easy to have sex with" .

  Unless you fit onto category of visas offered , work, family or retied then you aren't welcome to stay long term 

Nah anyone who spends money is welcome in Thailand whatever whoever,  they just kick out who they want to just to make the news and justify there govt wages and pensions.

[mikeymike100]

"It also comes after it was discovered that potentially thousands of Chinese nationals were granted bogus student visas in a scandal rocking the IB, notes ASEAN NOW.  "

 

Find all the Chinese criminals and deport them and blacklist for good!

 

[hotchilli]

22 hours ago, webfact said:

It also comes after it was discovered that potentially thousands of Chinese nationals were granted bogus student visas in a scandal rocking the IB,

Rocking the IB?

trying to tell me they weren't aware of the loop-holes in ED-visas?

[Jerno]

On 12/23/2022 at 7:02 AM, Mac Mickmanus said:

Thailand doesn't want those young people staying in Thailand for a prolonged time with no reason to be there apart from "I like it here and the weathers nice and the foods cheap and the females are easy to have sex with" .

  Unless you fit onto category of visas offered , work, family or retied then you aren't welcome to stay long term 

And still make it bureaucratic as H to get extensions and stay long term.

[CANSIAM]

They better revamp their Ed. Visa prerequisites in a hurry or they may have thousands of Russian soldiers here for the 'nice weather' for quite some time........

[sqwakvfr]

ED Visa’s are an easy fix:  Randomly check if the “student” has actually learned anything.  For the Self Defense Visa a brief demonstration in front of an IO could work. The easiest thing would be determining if a “student” under a Thai Language Ed Visa has actually learned anything.  

[stoner]

go get em boys. pain and suffering to all baddies out there breaking the rules.

 

 

[nigelforbes]

1 minute ago, stoner said:

go get em boys. pain and suffering to all baddies out there breaking the rules.

 

 

And a very happy new year to you too. 

[BangkokReady]

On 12/23/2022 at 7:02 PM, Mac Mickmanus said:

Thailand doesn't want those young people staying in Thailand for a prolonged time with no reason to be there apart from "I like it here and the weathers nice and the foods cheap and the females are easy to have sex with" .

I think a lot of people do, some just like to pretend to only want the elusive "high-quality tourist" to gain face. 

 

In reality, the gap-year thrill seeker's and crusty backpacker's money is as green as anyone else's.

 

They're renting apartments, they're buying food every day, paying those women to have sex with them, etc..  They're like a welfare stimulus cheque.

 

If they didn't want young people "going travelling" for a year in Thailand, they could stop it very easily.

[Boomer6969]

7 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

I think a lot of people do, some just like to pretend to only want the elusive "high-quality tourist" to gain face. 

 

In reality, the gap-year thrill seeker's and crusty backpacker's money is as green as anyone else's.

 

They're renting apartments, they're buying food every day, paying those women to have sex with them, etc..  They're like a welfare stimulus cheque.

 

If they didn't want young people "going travelling" for a year in Thailand, they could stop it very easily.

You gotta be joking, they rent rooms for 1000 Bahts a night and eat street food for 300 Bahts a day. Thailand doesn't need them there are millions of  locals who spend that much for any of the  innumerable official Thai holidays.

[BangkokReady]

4 minutes ago, Boomer6969 said:

You gotta be joking, they rent rooms for 1000 Bahts a night and eat street food for 300 Bahts a day.

Not joking at all.  Thailand of course needs as many people visiting as possible.  Money is money.  People renting out rooms for 1000 baht a day and selling street food want that extra 1000/300 baht that they get from anyone.

 

We saw how Thailand fared during covid, so it's ridiculous to claim otherwise.

 

4 minutes ago, Boomer6969 said:

Thailand doesn't need them there are millions of  locals who spend that much for any of the  innumerable official Thai holidays.

It isn't a choice between one or the other.  The obvious preference would be to have both!

 

The idea that businesses would say "we don't need any foreign customers, we have enough locals visiting already" is simply farcical, as proven by covid.

 

I'm not sure how anyone could think that, other than bat-sh*t crazy foreigners or out of touch hisos who feel that Thailand's need for foreign tourists somehow makes Thailand look bad and therefore makes them look bad.

[Boomer6969]

6 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Not joking at all.  Thailand of course needs as many people visiting as possible.  Money is money.  People renting out rooms for 1000 baht a day and selling street food want that extra 1000/300 baht that they get from anyone.

 

We saw how Thailand fared during covid, so it's ridiculous to claim otherwise.

 

It isn't a choice between one or the other.  The obvious preference would be to have both!

 

The idea that businesses would say "we don't need any foreign customers, we have enough locals visiting already" is simply farcical, as proven by covid.

 

I'm not sure how anyone could think that, other than bat-sh*t crazy foreigners or out of touch hisos who feel that Thailand's need for foreign tourists somehow makes Thailand look bad and therefore makes them look bad.

Errr.. What has been proven by Covid? Other that lockdowns aren't good for the economy?

 

Also I'd love to know the proportion of drug users amongst the begpackers? And let's not talk about prostitution.

 

Thailand has indeed to fix its Tourist industry. Whether Immigration can do that I don't know, as they can only control demand. There should be a lot more work on the supply side, which some powerful people wouldn't like.

Edited December 25, 2022 by Boomer6969

[BangkokReady]

5 minutes ago, Boomer6969 said:

Errr.. What has been proven by Covid? Other that lockdowns aren't good for the economy?

That Thailand's economy needs foreign tourists to survive.  Or have you really not been following the news for the past two or three years?

Edited December 25, 2022 by BangkokReady

[Boomer6969]

4 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

That Thailand's economy needs foreign tourists to survive.  Or have you really not been following the news for the past two or three years?

The economy hasn't survived? Around me everything is business as usual. Maybe inflation, which has been cause mostly by central banks printing money in 2020/2021, so yes Covid related.

Edited December 25, 2022 by Boomer6969

[BangkokReady]

2 minutes ago, Boomer6969 said:

The economy hasn't survived? Around me everything is business as usual.

Sure.  Thailand's economy was fine without foreign tourism. /s ????

[nigelforbes]

32 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Sure.  Thailand's economy was fine without foreign tourism. /s ????

That's almost true, almost. Covid killed off international tourism and other exports, if other exports would have held up to the same level as before, the 11% of GDP that is international tourism wouldn't have been that greatly missed

[Thailand]

Plenty of adverts / websites still around offering education and self defense visas so I guess most it is just hot air.