2+ meth tablets will be treated as drug trafficking under proposed new edict

[snoop1130]

 

Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul is ready to sign a ministerial edict, which will mean that an individual found in possession of more than one methamphetamine tablet will be treated as a drug trafficker, instead of an addict.

 

Once the edict is signed, it will be sent to the cabinet for approval and then published in the Royal Gazette prior to enforcement.

 

Anutin said that the reduction in the amount of meth tablets in the possession of an individual, from 15 or more to two or more, to be regarded as a trafficking offense has been discussed extensively among the agencies concerned.

 

Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/2-meth-tablets-will-be-treated-as-drug-trafficking-under-proposed-new-edict/

 

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[BananaStrong]

short-term effects.....I guess you want sex, talk a lot, increased heart rate, ....

 

LONG-TERM effects:

 

• Changes in brain structure and function.
• Decreased motor skills.
• Verbal learning declines.
• Chronic anxiety.
• Mood disturbances.
• Aggressive or violent behaviors.
• Delusions.
• Paranoia.
• Visual and auditory hallucinations.
• Repetitive movements.
• Memory loss.
• Severe dental problems.
• Malnutrition.

[ThomasThBKK]

Great, they will just produce giant meth tablets u can break in small pieces then.

 

 

brainiacs ????

[BritManToo]

Guess they want to fill all those empty jail cells from letting the cannabis people off.

[OttoPollmann]

What will be the next step? 

Following Taksin's war on drugs and just shoot everyone caught with more then 2 pills?

[internationalism]

he has freed ganja and his associates made a lot of money by investing several years ago.

Now he is killing his competition to increase his market share.

There are some 80% prisoners on drug charges, some 300k incarcarated. That figure likely to multiply after this edict, unless courts would slam only fines 

[redwood1]

Why would 2 tablets be considered trafficking?

 

Hey Meth is nasty stuff but that's just dumb...

 

The only purpose this serves is to increase jail time for Non-traffickers ....

 

 

 

 

Edited January 30, 2023 by redwood1

[connda]

That law will make traffickers out of 99.9% of the Meth-users in Thailand.

If Thailand was honest and actually wanted to address the Meth problem (and they have a huge problem), they would adopt the Portugal model of handling illegal drug use. 

Instead?  They seem to want to sweep up large amounts of the younger population of Thailand and throw them all in prison of 3+ years.  It won't solve the problem - it will just destroy lives.

[connda]

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Guess they want to fill all those empty jail cells from letting the cannabis people off.

Yep, however I think they will need to build new prisons. 

[ukrules]

5 hours ago, OttoPollmann said:

What will be the next step? 

Following Taksin's war on drugs and just shoot everyone caught with more then 2 pills?

Maybe they will ban them twice?

[RichardColeman]

9 hours ago, BananaStrong said:

LONG-TERM effects:

 

• Changes in brain structure and function.
• Decreased motor skills.
• Verbal learning declines.
• Chronic anxiety.
• Mood disturbances.
• Aggressive or violent behaviors.
• Delusions.
• Paranoia.
• Visual and auditory hallucinations.
• Repetitive movements.
• Memory loss.
• Severe dental problems.
• Malnutrition.

Sounds just like many normal Thai men to me that don't take the drugs, going by stories on here  !

Edited January 30, 2023 by RichardColeman

[Orinoco]

Stupid Crazy law.

 

[Damrongsak]

2? Ridiculous.  Fill up the jails again.  How many does an average addict take per day?  What does a pill sell for these days?

 

How about a week in jail for every pill over some small limit? 

[Srikcir]

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

Sounds just like many normal Thai men to me that don't take the drugs, going by stories on here  !

And here I thought such symptoms might be limited to military leadership.

[wombat]

6 hours ago, connda said:

adopt the Portugal model of handling illegal drug use. 

 

Yes....nobody wants to talk about the success Portugal has had.

[Boomer6969]

 

"Under the current narcotics law, possession of more than 15 methamphetamine pills is regarded as possession with intent to traffic and the penalties range from four years to life imprisonment and/or a fine from 400,000 to 5,000,000 baht.

Those who possess fewer than 15 tablets are currently regarded as “patients”, and will be sent for rehabilitation."

 

Which is quite lenient indeed, but unsurprisingly they got the wrong end of the stick; they should have introduced a mandatory death penalty for production and/or large scale transportation, etc.

[IAMHERE]

10 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Guess they want to fill all those empty jail cells from letting the cannabis people off.

More likely the shakedown, two tablets is easier to plant than a 100grams. This is only so the cops can do their thing easier and more lucratively.

See if after this is the law more BiB stops are made.

[BritManToo]

13 minutes ago, Boomer6969 said:

Those who possess fewer than 15 tablets are currently regarded as “patients”, and will be sent for rehabilitation."

 

Which is quite lenient indeed, but unsurprisingly they got the wrong end of the stick; they should have introduced a mandatory death penalty for production and/or large scale transportation, etc.

Not all that lenient as it's 3-6 months treatment (in open prison) and on release they keep your address and pop round for 'random' tests. Fail a subsequent test and it's 2 years in jail.

Edited January 31, 2023 by BritManToo

[khunjeff]

Why on earth does the Health Minister get to determine the legal definition of "narcotics trafficker", and make pronouncements about who should or shouldn't be imprisoned, without any debate by members of Parliament? 

[bamnutsak]

Anutin wanted to make it zero pills, but Thai legal experts advised him against that.

 

The meth problem here is GIGANTIC, rarely a week goes by without a bust of MILLIONS of pills. Yes, much of that is transhipment via Thailand for "export", but much falls off the truck and affects the local population.

 

How about stopping the shipment of precursors from Thailand to Maynamar?

 

How about arresting someone other than the vehicle driver?

 

Lowering the threshold from 15 to 2 seems rash, and not very well thought out.

 

 

 

[Venom]

7 hours ago, connda said:

would adopt the Portugal model of handling illegal drug use. 

Link?

[cncltd1973]

10 hours ago, redwood1 said:

Why would 2 tablets be considered trafficking?

 

Hey Meth is nasty stuff but that's just dumb...

 

The only purpose this serves is to increase jail time for Non-traffickers ....

 

 

 

 

and allows the RTP to use more aggressive shakedown tactics on all users. presumed guilty of trafficking unless proven otherwise, they'll try on the plastic bags again for confessions

[connda]

7 hours ago, cncltd1973 said:

and allows the RTP to use more aggressive shakedown tactics on all users. presumed guilty of trafficking unless proven otherwise, they'll try on the plastic bags again for confessions

Trust me.  My wife and all rural villagers know how the yaba traffic works and exactly which people, entities, and institutions are involved.  Meth is big business, big money, and a huge social problem.  Most average (non-Meth users) aren't happy about the drug trade nor those involved either.  It doesn't end because of the nature of the stakeholders making the money.
Bust the plebs for a couple of pills and the 'authorities' (I use that term loosely) are so busy busting nobodies that those actually involved in trafficking are able to skate. 

[metisdead]

A post with content that was copy and pasted from some site without a valid link to the source of information has been removed as well as a reply. 

[Jimbo2014]

This terrible terrible policy has been tried and failed many times before.  All it does it punish users with criminal records and jail time turning normal people into hardened criminals with few options in life.  At present 800K, about 1.2% of Thais, are receiving drug treatment.  Well done Anutin on turning most into Criminals - a failed horrible policy.

[huangnon]

On 1/31/2023 at 7:43 AM, bamnutsak said:

Anutin wanted to make it zero pills, but Thai legal experts advised him against that.

 

The meth problem here is GIGANTIC, rarely a week goes by without a bust of MILLIONS of pills. Yes, much of that is transhipment via Thailand for "export", but much falls off the truck and affects the local population.

 

How about stopping the shipment of precursors from Thailand to Maynamar?

 

How about arresting someone other than the vehicle driver?

 

Lowering the threshold from 15 to 2 seems rash, and not very well thought out.

 

 

 

They must be building a lot of new prisons..

 

Would be interesting to reveal just how many of Thailand's supposedly "top people" are invested in the drug trade.

[d4dang]

this will improve BIB cash flow

[A1Str8]

This nonsense. 

Imagine if you also decided to establish a criminal gang and named it government. You would be untouchable automatically. 

[StayinThailand2much]

Just 2, easy for drug planting during a search...

[Captain Monday]

Where do Thai people get these yaba pills? I dont see ANY  who appear to be tweaking out of their minds in Chiang Mai  like I do every day while in the US. 

 

Nobody offered me druggs in Chiang Ma. Soem years ago foreigners in lower Sukumvit appeared to be selling "Mon what you want?". A Thai man who looked  a penniless beggar offered me "cocaine LSD marijuana extasy " more than 20 years ago on Samui. I assumed that was a police scam. 

 

In any case I keep walking.