47 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

He's a world renown expert on international relations but I do get it that your bias will trump all of that. It's fine whatever we all think on this forum the war is ugly and devastating to the people of Ukraine especially and it must end. We can agree on that I hope.

Yes, may the war end quickly with a victory for Ukraine and the murderous invaders beaten back. A regime change in Moscow would be icing on the cake.

16 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Yes, may the war end quickly with a victory for Ukraine and the murderous invaders beaten back. A regime change in Moscow would be icing on the cake.

Colonel Macgregor is also very insightful I think - for balance worth a listen to?
 

 

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

But is there any value in wearing such shirts or is it only virtue signaling or even potentially provoking a violent response?

 

You're provoking a violent response.

What you are asking is, whom in this forum plans to provoke Russian tourist and expats. 
This thread should be closed because that is where this thread is going to go.
 

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Topic moved to The Lounge.

 

/Moved.

13 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

Colonel Macgregor is also very insightful I think - for balance worth a listen to?
 

 

Listen to him all you want, he's just a retired Army Colonel who spreads Russian Propaganda on Cable News. RT news also like to feature him a lot, no surprise there

19 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

Colonel Macgregor is also very insightful I think - for balance worth a listen to?
 

 

Racist, xenophobe, antisemite, featured on Russian state propaganda and Tucker Carlson.  Worthless source.

16 minutes ago, connda said:

You're provoking a violent response.

What you are asking is, whom in this forum plans to provoke Russian tourist and expats. 
This thread should be closed because that is where this thread is going to go.
 

9. You will not post disruptive or inflammatory messages. You will respect other members and post in a civil manner. Personal attacks, insults or hate speech posted on the forum or sent by private message are not allowed.

15. You will not discriminate or post slurs, degrading or overly negative comments on the basis of race, gender, age, religion, ethnicity, nationality, disability, medical history, marriage, civil partnership, pregnancy, maternity, paternity, gender identity, sexual orientation or any other irrelevant factor.

No I am not.

 

26 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Listen to him all you want, he's just a retired Army Colonel who spreads Russian Propaganda on Cable News. RT news also like to feature him a lot, no surprise there

I only just found him - I listen to a broad range of views including Sky News etc. I like to retain a balance which, I observe, posters do not like to do on here. The first casualty of war is truth.   

Just now, BobBKK said:

I only just found him - I listen to a broad range of views including Sky News etc. I like to retain a balance which, I observe, posters do not like to do on here. The first casualty of war is truth.   

What makes you think posters here only stick to MSN? There's a wide variety to be had without the need to go down rabbit holes

26 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Racist, xenophobe, antisemite, featured on Russian state propaganda and Tucker Carlson.  Worthless source.

All the opposing views are worthless to you I get that. Tucker is a lone voice in speaking out and Americas most popular commentator - I don't like some of his views but he's spot on with Ukraine.

47 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

Colonel Macgregor is also very insightful I think - for balance worth a listen to?
 

 

"Will the US trigger world war 3 in order to prop up Biden and his white house? "

 

That's one of the questions dealt with in this video and luckily I saw that before wasting valuable minutes of my life on random Youtube garbage.

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

What makes you think posters here only stick to MSN? There's a wide variety to be had without the need to go down rabbit holes

It is NOT black and white. It started in 2014 with much hidden history but we all want peace right?  let's agree on that and hope it ends soon (which I doubt).

7 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

I only just found him - I listen to a broad range of views including Sky News etc. I like to retain a balance which, I observe, posters do not like to do on here. The first casualty of war is truth.   

It's also the first casualty of no critical thinking.

Just now, Phoenix Rising said:

"Will the US trigger world war 3 in order to prop up Biden and his white house? "

 

That's one of the questions dealt with in this video and luckily I saw that before wasting valuable minutes of my life on random Youtube garbage.

WW3 has almost started DYOR we are very, very close - Russia will align with China and probably India. USA will run as it did in Afghanistan - remember that?  thousands dead but hand it back to the Taliban?   that worked out well didn't it? 

3 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

It's also the first casualty of no critical thinking.

I'm hopeful you might start soon? you know asses data, explore links, think outside MSM - that kind of thing   ???? 

That's my last engagement with you on this topic - thank you but pointless arguing with a brick wall - have a nice evening

9 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

All the opposing views are worthless to you I get that. Tucker is a lone voice in speaking out and Americas most popular commentator - I don't like some of his views but he's spot on with Ukraine.

Yeah like Hitler lovers Lindbergh and Ford were popular leading to Ww2. 

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Russian propaganda. 

Please stay on topic.

"Russian propaganda".

 

Straight out of Joe McCarthy's playbook.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Yeah like Hitler lovers Lindbergh and Ford were popular leading to Ww2. 

False equivalency and you know it

Just now, JimmyJ said:

"Russian propaganda".

 

Straight out of Joe McCarthy's playbook.

 

 

Completely different situations. 

Russia is no longer communist.

It's fascist.

Which explains the affinity of American fascists with Russia.

Just now, BobBKK said:

False equivalency and you know it

Nope. Very comparable.

American fascists loving foreign fascists.

13 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

It is NOT black and white. It started in 2014 with much hidden history but we all want peace right?  let's agree on that and hope it ends soon (which I doubt).

History is not hidden, its there for all to read and learn.

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Completely different situations. 

Russia is no longer communist.

It's fascist.

Which explains the affinity of American fascists with Russia.

You know the truth is American fascists have affinity with Ukraine - you know this to be true but choose to deflect it onto Russia.

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

History is not hidden, its there for all to read and learn.

Unfortunately that is not the case - history is written by the victors and much is hidden from our view.

Just now, BobBKK said:

You know the truth is American fascists have affinity with Ukraine - you know this to be true but choose to deflect it onto Russia.

Garbage.

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Garbage.

Ukraine has no neo-Nazis?  really?

Trust reuters?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary-idUSKBN1GV2TY

4 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

Unfortunately that is not the case - history is written by the victors and much is hidden from our view.

Not true, the facts are there regarding Ukraine and Russia. Not if you listen to Tucker though..............

 

Fox News won a court case by 'persuasively' arguing that no 'reasonable viewer' takes Tucker Carlson seriously

https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-karen-mcdougal-case-tucker-carlson-2020-9

 Soi 5 Jomtiem there is a bar with a Ukraine colours out front right next door to a new visaagent specialising in Russian clients. I guess it could be Swedish! 

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Not true, the facts are there regarding Ukraine and Russia. Not if you listen to Tucker though..............

I rarely watch Tucker but he has some good points on this conflict. The fact are there but much is hidden like CIAs involvement with the coup?  the secret Labs?  special ops?

1 minute ago, BobBKK said:

I rarely watch Tucker but he has some good points on this conflict. The fact are there but much is hidden like CIAs involvement with the coup?  the secret Labs?  special ops?

What the secret labs that are listed on the US gov website..............oh dear

 

Do you also believe they were making mutant Ukraine soldiers there and that's why their beating the Russians, oh and infecting birds to fly over to Russia. 

18 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

You know the truth is American fascists have affinity with Ukraine - you know this to be true but choose to deflect it onto Russia.

Actually, American fascists are against the US assisting Ukraine. Don't know which rabbit hole you've fallen down into but is seems to be very deep indeed.

Anyway, not gonna spend time engaging with you further as it's a complete and utter waste of time.