Sean Penn says US has to accept ‘level of shame’ for not arming Ukraine faster

[onthedarkside]

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Sean Penn said the US has to accept “a level of shame” for not helping Ukraine with weapons supplies quicker at the premiere of his documentary about president Voldoymyr Zelenskiy and the war.

 

Speaking after the screening in Berlin on Friday night, the Hollywood A-lister said he believed the war in Ukraine was one that the west cannot ultimately afford to see Kyiv lose, an argument that underpins the new film, Superpower.

 

“If you imagine what it is if Russia wins, we are all <deleted>. Just dead <deleted>,” Penn said, “we are already as Americans, I can say, we are having to take on board a level of shame for not having scaled up sooner with the weapons.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/feb/18/sean-penn-says-us-has-to-accept-level-of-shame-for-not-arming-ukraine-faster

 

[KhunLA]

Great actor ... politics, not so much.   Agree with some of his past thoughts, but not this time.

 

USA should have never been involved with UA over 10-15 yrs ago while orchestrating yet another failed regime change...IMHO

[JonnyF]

Why do actors, musicians etc. always seem to think they have some special insight on political issues that they need to share with the masses?

 

Be quiet Sean, and lay off the roids.

 

 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

41 minutes ago, onthedarkside said:

Sean Penn said the US has to accept “a level of shame”

Good on Sean for speaking his mind, look forward to the documentary. But I would add, not just the US, but NATO and those countries now helping should all be reflecting on why they did not intervene sooner with effective weapon supplies. We can see they work and help to drive out the occupation by the invaders.

[Chomper Higgot]

8 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Why do actors, musicians etc. always seem to think they have some special insight on political issues that they need to share with the masses?

 

Be quiet Sean, and lay off the roids.

 

 

 

 

I suspect, like you, they like expressing their opinions.

 

The only real difference is your reach might be to a couple of dozen people, their’s to a somewhat wider audience.

[Tug]

I agree we need to support faster and with more ie aircraft tanks and longer range missiles asap 

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, onthedarkside said:

Sean Penn said the US has to accept “a level of shame” for not helping Ukraine with weapons supplies quicker at the premiere of his documentary about president Voldoymyr Zelenskiy and the war.

Even 2nd rate actors know how to run the world better than their elected government.

Not sure anyone would class him as a 'Hollywood A-lister' though.

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[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Why do actors, musicians etc. always seem to think they have some special insight on political issues that they need to share with the masses?

 

Be quiet Sean, and lay off the roids.

 

 

 

 

Sean Penn was a passionate advocate for Ukraine's cause. He spent time in Ukraine following the war in close-in, handheld, web style to produce the documentary "Superpower". He took efforts to understand Ukraine, its President and its fight.

 

What have you done to compare with Sean's efforts to tell him to be quiet. 

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[Patong2021]

Sean has always put his money where his political views are, unlike many "influencers" He has also volunteered his time whether it was in Haiti or New Orleans, doing hard manual labour.  Unfortunately, Sean has in the past criticized the USA for supporting regimes in armed conflict. He's being hypocritical in that regard.

 

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Why do actors, musicians etc. always seem to think they have some special insight on political issues that they need to share with the masses?

Be quiet Sean, and lay off the roids.

He has every right to offer an opinion (and to be criticized for it too). And no, he is not on steroids. The man is very much into physical training and it is no secret that he has a strict regime that puts professional athletes to shame. He is firm and taught, not a bulked up gym nut.

[300sd]

Can't agree with you Penn. It's not the first time either. Anyway I prefer peace. Oh and did you for one minute wonder what would happen if the US loses this proxy war? No I didn't think so.

The US nuked Japanese cities to end the last war. I wouldn't want to be around Kyiv now but you are welcome to visit and stay as long as you like.

[onthedarkside]

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[bendejo]

I would have thought he would side with Putin.  He seems to have a thing for misunderstood villains.

 

 

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19 minutes ago, 300sd said:

Can't agree with you Penn. It's not the first time either. Anyway I prefer peace. Oh and did you for one minute wonder what would happen if the US loses this proxy war? No I didn't think so.

The US nuked Japanese cities to end the last war. I wouldn't want to be around Kyiv now but you are welcome to visit and stay as long as you like.

As has been pointed out numerous times by others, Neville Chamberlain also preferred peace. There are 2 says to get to peace. Through good faith negotiations or defeat of the forces on one side of the war. Who is going to believe in the good faith of an ex KGB agent who claimed that the goal of the war....eer Special Military Operation...was to denazify Ukraine?

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[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, 300sd said:

Can't agree with you Penn. It's not the first time either. Anyway I prefer peace. Oh and did you for one minute wonder what would happen if the US loses this proxy war? No I didn't think so.

The US nuked Japanese cities to end the last war. I wouldn't want to be around Kyiv now but you are welcome to visit and stay as long as you like.

All those would be reasonable considerations if the US had started this war.

 

Here’s your relevant history lesson:

 

’Peace in our time’.

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Why do actors, musicians etc. always seem to think they have some special insight on political issues that they need to share with the masses?

 

Be quiet Sean, and lay off the roids.

 

 

 

 

When they get onto the A list they seem to take heir egos with them.

[moogradod]

6 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Good on Sean for speaking his mind, look forward to the documentary. But I would add, not just the US, but NATO and those countries now helping should all be reflecting on why they did not intervene sooner with effective weapon supplies. We can see they work and help to drive out the occupation by the invaders.

Both Sun Tzu and Miyamoto Musashi teach us that if you strike, you should strike hard and decisively. A 50% attack has little chance of success. Besides it always gets forgotten that this is not only about a regional bout but it is a fight of different ideologies. It strongly reminds me of the effort the allies have taken against Hitler.

 

I agree with Sean Penn. Fight the agressor back as strong and fast as possible.