How are the Russians paying for it all?

[brianthainess]

16 hours ago, Social Media said:

It seems Thailand isnt the ONLY place Russians are headed........

 

 

 

Indonesia are tightening down on Russian VOA so now even more will be heading our way. 

[thaibeachlovers]

17 hours ago, ezzra said:

Russians are very, very resourceful people i suspect that many of them if not all, bring cash with

them or have access to a foreign payment arrangement. 

The cash will eventually run out, but I'm more interested in how they can stay beyond their visa expiry date.

[Denim]

34 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

I can speak Russian.

 

There are very few single Russian ladies in Pattaya, for very obvious reasons.

 

At any rate, I don't talk to Russians now.

I had to study it at grammar school. Even back then they were expecting war with Russia. All I can remember is ....'.she is a very beautiful women'and 'take your trousers off'. Oh , plus  ' what's the time '  Dasvidania

[ChipButty]

Im wondering if the Russian government know how many have done one, A friend of mine told me Zanzibar was full of them Russians, That was before Christmas

Edited March 20, 2023 by ChipButty

[Jenkins9039]

2 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

Long before.  Remember the Soviet Union? Everything belonged to the state...didn't it?  When the USSR collapsed all the state run enterprises were carved up and 'sold' off - hence the amount of oligarchs.

 

From Oxford Languages:

 

oligarch

/ˈɒlɪɡɑːk/

 

 

noun

noun: oligarch; plural noun: oligarchs

1. 1.

   a ruler in an oligarchy.

    
2. 2.

   a very rich business leader with a great deal of political influence (particularly with reference to individuals who benefited from the privatization of state-run industries after the collapse of the Soviet Union).

   "it seems more than a coincidence that former employees, advisors, and allies of the billionaire oligarch have been parachuted into such positions"  ????

 

Clearly most of the Russians in Thailand are not up to Oligarch level but the same methods of attainment applied + a lot of corruption and other highly dodgy business since then.

 

These people are not stupid, they knew their cash was never safe in Russia - they'll have had it out of there years ago. Foreign accounts/Offshore accounts/........now probably Thai accounts.

 

There's always a way - if you can pay.

factually incorrect opening.

 

All assets were divided up across the entire population, they then sold their positions to what would become oligarchs. 

 

Hence statement "Provide everyone with a carving and within 18yrs will be back to where we was".

 

 

[Jenkins9039]

8 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

Im wondering if the Russian government know how many have done one, A friend of mine tole me Zanzibar was full of them Russians, That was before Christmas

Zanzibar is / was full yes. 

Great place

[NextG]

55 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

I can speak Russian.

 

There are very few single Russian ladies in Pattaya, for very obvious reasons.

 

At any rate, I don't talk to Russians now.

There are quite a few single women, contrary to your assertion. 

[ChipButty]

I was told by a Russian they also using Alipay

[Goat]

17 hours ago, NanLaew said:

They are mostly good people who have been royally f*cked over by their President.

 

There's a large caravan of broke Brits eking out an existence in Thailand due to their being f*cked over by their Prime Minister.

 

Same same but different.

Give me Russians over Brits anyday. Met many Russians I have liked.

i cant think of any Brits i even half liked. 

 

I asked one yesterday why he wasnt at home fighting for his country?

He answered "Because ukraine isnt my country"

[asf6]

20 hours ago, Denim said:

All the more reason to move out to somewhere else.......or learn to speak Russian and get yourself a Babushka.

Babushka means old woman, doesn't it? What's the word for young woman? (asking for a friend ???? ) 

 

 

[asf6]

30 minutes ago, Goat said:

I asked one yesterday why he wasnt at home fighting for his country?

He answered "Because ukraine isnt my country"

Great answer! 

[sidneybear]

There are other payment systems like China's UnionPay that work in both Thailand and Russia. 

[sidneybear]

1 hour ago, Goat said:

Give me Russians over Brits anyday. Met many Russians I have liked.

i cant think of any Brits i even half liked. 

 

I asked one yesterday why he wasnt at home fighting for his country?

He answered "Because ukraine isnt my country"

Agreed. And I'm originally British.

[scubascuba3]

1 hour ago, Goat said:

Give me Russians over Brits anyday. Met many Russians I have liked.

i cant think of any Brits i even half liked. 

 

I asked one yesterday why he wasnt at home fighting for his country?

He answered "Because ukraine isnt my country"

Where do you meet these Brits? probably bar fly types, best to keep out of the bars

[KhaoYai]

8 hours ago, Jenkins9039 said:

factually incorrect opening.

 

All assets were divided up across the entire population, they then sold their positions to what would become oligarchs. 

 

Hence statement "Provide everyone with a carving and within 18yrs will be back to where we was".

 

 

It is not incorrect.  There have been several documentaries recently and plenty of reports on the internet.  One of the main ones and I can't remember the names involved but it was on the news a month ago - was about a State Oil company that was sold off to a Russian who has just had his Superyacht confiscated under the current sanctions.  This guy bribed the official that arranged the sale and his cronies even arranged the finance through Russian banks.  One the business was his, he immediately sold it for a huge profit.

 

Maybe the state regulations were that state owned assets would be shared by the population but do you really believe that happened?  There is plenty of evidence to the contrary.  How do you think so many people became so rich overnight?  It was supposed to be a communist country remember.

 

Putin himself is a former KGB officer - in a communist regime remember.  He is now said to be worth billions - how did that happen I wonder?

Edited March 20, 2023 by KhaoYai

[KhaoYai]

22 hours ago, NanLaew said:

There's a large caravan of broke Brits eking out an existence in Thailand due to their being f*cked over by their Prime Minister.

Why slag off people who choose to live out their days in the sun rather than the cold and rain back home?

 

'Broke', 'Eeking out'??  Many of them weren't wealthy in the first place so what?  Their savings, meagre or otherwise and pension will still go much further in Thailand than it will in the UK.

 

Hat's off to them I say, I know where I'd rather be if I didn't have any money.

[KhaoYai]

20 hours ago, Jenkins9039 said:

Brits can be described as 1 pound poms (they are all broke), there is still some wealth in Northern Europeans (50+) below that they are <deleted> also.

 

Russian's are ok (middle/upper class) it's the gangs you need to worry about.

There's always someone here willing to slag off other nationals.  The vast majority of the population of any country are around a paycheque away from broke - so what?  Some of the nicest people I know (any nationality) are just normal people - not wealthy. By contrast, the most selfish, miserable people I know are all quite well off.

 

You measure people by their wealth? Sad, very sad - there's far more to life.  I am not nor have I ever been, impressed by wealth - it just doesn't matter to me. I measure people by who they are, not what they have.

[scubascuba3]

5 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:

There's always someone here willing to slag off other nationals.  The vast majority of the population of any country are around a paycheque away from broke - so what?  Some of the nicest people I know (any nationality) are just normal people - not wealthy. By contrast, the most selfish, miserable people I know are all quite well off.

 

You measure people by their wealth? Sad, very sad - there's far more to life.  I am not nor have I ever been, impressed by wealth - it just doesn't matter to me. I measure people by who they are, not what they have.

He's probably American they can't help themselves, brainwashed from birth

[KhaoYai]

5 hours ago, Goat said:

Give me Russians over Brits anyday. Met many Russians I have liked.

i cant think of any Brits i even half liked. 

Oh dear, I'm so upset, I won't sleep tonight. I must try to change my nationality.

[3NUMBAS]

3 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Where do you meet these Brits? probably bar fly types, best to keep out of the bars

bear grylls has a house in phuket so   i read and hes married with kids

[JackGats]

Could the answer to the title could be: "because sanctions don't work"?

[Jingthing]

On 3/19/2023 at 6:50 PM, Jingthing said:

Crypto according to Sanctioned Ivan youtube. He's now in Turkiye but headed to Pattaya. He's a flippin legend.

A star is born. Sanctioned Ivan featured on UK Channel 4. From Russia to Turkiye to Pattaya with love. 

 

 

 

[Danderman123]

20 hours ago, NextG said:

There are quite a few single women, contrary to your assertion. 

Maybe you don't notice the Russian boyfriends and husbands. 

 

Often, they will be lurking near working ladies, serving as "security".

 

Or, you will see them together in the daytime.

[KhaoYai]

20 hours ago, Goat said:

Give me Russians over Brits anyday. Met many Russians I have liked.

i cant think of any Brits i even half liked.

Whilst I don't doubt there are plenty of 'good Russians', the type of people you might like, the fact that 70% of the population support Putin's war tells me that I wouldn't want to be too friendly with them at the moment.

 

That said, it is hardly surprising that they are the way they are - they've been fed a hell of a lot of propaganda for the last 24 years or so.  Told the West hates them, the West has turned most of the world against them etc. etc. Their news has been highly censored and concocted. Any opposition to Putin's regime that starts to become even remotely popular is rapidly stamped out. Their leaders are imprisoned on trumped up charges and some have faced assassination attempts.

 

I don't know if anyone saw Stephen Sackur's recent interview with Evgeny Popov on the BBC's Hardtalk programme. If that man is a typical Russian - I don't want to know any of them. Much like Putin, he's in his own parallel universe.  I'd like to believe however, that Popov is not a 'typical' Russian.  It would be useful to know, not that we ever will, what the thousands of Russians who are currently in Thailand, privately think about Putin's war.

 

Regular readers here may remember the photo posted a while back, of a hotel in Pattaya with a sign outside saying 'No Russians'.  You may not like Brits Mr. Goat, you may even prefer Russians to Brits but I'l tell you one thing - you've never seen a hotel in Pattaya with a sign outside saying 'No Brits'.

 

Frankly, its of no consequence who you like or dislike - as a Brit (English actually), I won't be losing any sleep over it.

Edited March 21, 2023 by KhaoYai

[ChipButty]

4 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:

Whilst I don't doubt there are plenty of 'good Russians', the type of people you might like, the fact that 70% of the population support Putin's war tells me that I wouldn't want to be too friendly with them at the moment.

 

That said, it is hardly surprising that they are the way they are - they've been fed a hell of a lot of propaganda for the last 24 years or so.  Told the West hates them, the West has turned most of the world against them etc. etc. Their news has been highly censored and concocted.

 

I don't know if anyone saw Stephen Sackur's recent interview with Evgeny Popov on the BBC's Hardtalk programme. If that man is a typical Russian - I don't want to know any of them. Much like Putin, he's in his own parallel universe.  I'd like to believe however, that Popov is not a 'typical' Russian.  It would be useful to know, not that we ever will, what the thousands of Russians who are currently in Thailand, privately think about Putin's war.

 

Regular readers here may remember the photo posted a while back, of a hotel in Pattaya with a sign outside saying 'No Russians'.  You may not like Brits Mr. Goat, you may even prefer Russians to Brits but I'l tell you one thing - you've never seen a hotel in Pattaya with a sign outside saying 'No Brits'.

 

Frankly, its of no consequence who you like or dislike - as a Brit (English actually), I won't be losing any sleep over it.

Over the years here in Phuket many a landlord would tell agent's "No Russians" I even had the question asked Do you accept Russians, We have had many Russian guest over the years just the odd one but I could say the same about other nationalities, I remember some years ago a tour company contact us to offer our guest boat trips, then they said No Russians, How can you say that? 

[Jingthing]

Calling some Russians good Russians might be problematic.

 

 

[scubascuba3]

1 hour ago, KhaoYai said:

Whilst I don't doubt there are plenty of 'good Russians', the type of people you might like, the fact that 70% of the population support Putin's war tells me that I wouldn't want to be too friendly with them at the moment.

There are farang who seem to be in favour of the Ukraine invasion also, you know, conspiracy theory types

[Ralf001]

On 3/19/2023 at 6:44 PM, steven100 said:

Thailand said they are refugees ...  so that must mean that they can only stay in the condo or hotel for a few months.  How can we help these poor Russian refugees    ? 

If they are between 18 and 20 yrs old, blue eyes/blonde hair and weigh 55kg or less.................I have a spare bed at my place.

[Goat]

1 hour ago, KhaoYai said:

I'l tell you one thing - you've never seen a hotel in Pattaya with a sign outside saying 'No Brits'.

Well, considering that the Brits make up the highest percentage of sex tourists in Pattayas bars and brothels, as well as quite a high number of the pimps, including the biggest "group" in soi 6 with 700 prostitutes I think it is understandable.

It is pretty ugly to see.

 

 Russians mostly dont come here to take advantage of the impoverished poorer classes of young women. Just here to enjoy the sun and shopping with their often extended families.

 

And Russians have never done a thing to my country. But the Brits invaded and "colonised" us.

[1FinickyOne]

On 3/19/2023 at 4:16 PM, scubascuba3 said:

Housing market back home must be diving

diving - - scuba scuba - - i get it