COD scams continue please beware.

[The Fugitive]

Today my Mrs paid 790 baht for a COD item (delivery by Kerry Express to her shop). It is an unbranded USB powered desk fan. It does actually work! She then said 'not ordered'. I tried to explain that she has been scammed. To be fair she regularly (like almost everyday) orders items and always selects COD. Problem is my stepdaughter, her boyfriend, my stepson and his wife, my nephew and two neices all order COD and request delivery to her shop. I fear more scams in the pipeline!

[setbkk]

How do you know it is a scam when 7 other people have stuff shipped to her shop?

[terryq]

Is it a 'scam' or is it a family member has just ordered something for delivery to her shop and has not told anyone ?

 

According to the package who ordered it.? 

 

Suggest you hide the USB fan away and wait for someone to ask 'anything come for me yet'

Also make family members order on their personal account only.

 

 

[The Fugitive]

7 minutes ago, setbkk said:

How do you know it is a scam when 7 other people have stuff shipped to her shop?

Good point! That's my worry! Usually, (but not always) the name on the parcel is written in Thai and I can't read it. That was the case today. However, her mobile telephone number appeared on the address label. As we know, and fortunately for us, Thai's often write their numerics in Latin!

[The Fugitive]

5 minutes ago, terryq said:

Is it a 'scam' or is it a family member has just ordered something for delivery to her shop and has not told anyone ?

 

According to the package who ordered it.? 

 

Suggest you hide the USB fan away and wait for someone to ask 'anything come for me yet'

Also make family members order on their personal account only.

Thanks for the advice! The other family members do have (and always use) their own mail order 'accounts'. This parcel was addressed to my Mrs and had her mobile telephone number printed upon the address label.

[Lemsta69]

15 minutes ago, The Fugitive said:

the name on the parcel is written in Thai and I can't read it.

Use Google Lens to translate the writing. You don't even need to take a photo, there's a way to do a 'live' translation whilst hovering your phone over the label.

[The Fugitive]

7 minutes ago, Lemsta69 said:

Use Google Lens to translate the writing. You don't even need to take a photo, there's a way to do a 'live' translation whilst hovering your phone over the label.

Thanks for that! Just tried it. I didn't know that Google Translate and then by selecting Camera takes me to Google Lens. Most helpful. I'm going to be in need of this in the future! 

[Lemsta69]

1 minute ago, The Fugitive said:

Thanks for that! Just tried it. I didn't know that Google Translate and then by selecting Camera takes me to Google Lens. Most helpful. I'm going to be in need of this in the future! 

Via Translate is one way to do it but you have more options if you launch the Google Lens app itself. 

 

Eg. you can use one of functions, Search I think it is, to scan say a restaurant menu that's only in Thai, without having to keep taking photos. This helps me in the 7-11 as well.

 

You can also load screenshots into Lens which can come in handy if you have only one device with you and need to translate, say a Lazada page.

[Gaccha]

1 hour ago, The Fugitive said:

orders items and always selects COD

As has been endlessly pointed out on this forum, you should not use COD. 

[macahoom]

39 minutes ago, The Fugitive said:

As we know, and fortunately for us, Thai's often write their numerics in Latin!

Eh?

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, The Fugitive said:

Today my Mrs paid 790 baht for a COD item (delivery by Kerry Express to her shop). It is an unbranded USB powered desk fan. It does actually work! She then said 'not ordered'. I tried to explain that she has been scammed. To be fair she regularly (like almost everyday) orders items and always selects COD. Problem is my stepdaughter, her boyfriend, my stepson and his wife, my nephew and two neices all order COD and request delivery to her shop. I fear more scams in the pipeline!

Don't accept any COD orders you didn't make, or other people didn't leave the money for.

How easy is that?

[transam]

1 minute ago, Gaccha said:

As has been endlessly pointed out on this forum, you should not use COD. 

All my hundred's of stuff has been COD, never a problem because I/we KNOW what is coming, and is checked.

So tell me, why I should not use COD and give them bank account details instead....

[Gaccha]

1 minute ago, transam said:

give them bank account details instead

You are not giving "them" your bank account details, you are giving Lazada/Shopee etc. your bank account details.

 

Please explore the endless discussions on this topic in the forum.

[transam]

Just now, Gaccha said:

You are not giving "them" your bank account details, you are giving Lazada/Shopee etc. your bank account details.

 

Please explore the endless discussions on this topic in the forum.

Please don't dodge the WHY I should not pay COD...Go for it.....????

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, The Fugitive said:

Good point! That's my worry! Usually, (but not always) the name on the parcel is written in Thai and I can't read it. That was the case today. However, her mobile telephone number appeared on the address label. As we know, and fortunately for us, Thai's often write their numerics in Latin!

Why should we be aware because your family members let deliver things at your wife's shop?

[The Fugitive]

30 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Don't accept any COD orders you didn't make, or other people didn't leave the money for.

How easy is that?

Agree! The contents were printed at the bottom of the address label together with the price. No excuse. The explanation in this particular case (according to my Mrs) was that the shopkeeper opposite accepted and paid for the delivery.  

[Dan O]

Just tell all the family that you will not accept any cod packages at the shop anymore UNLESS the person ordering  it does not tell you in advance that an order was placed, what it's for and the cost of cod and leave the money for payment. 

Edited April 29, 2023 by Dan O
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[The Fugitive]

7 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Just tell all the family that you will not accept any cod packages at the shop anymore UNLESS the person ordering  it does not tell you in advance that an order was placed, what it's for and the cost of cod and leave the money for payment. 

Thanks! That's the best suggestion!

[Dan O]

1 minute ago, The Fugitive said:

Thanks! That's the best suggestion!

Yep, easy. They all know that they ordered something and all the info so it weeds out the COD scams that do exist

[KhunBENQ]

I never order COD and will never pay a COD.

Daughter still seems to do COD but is aware about the delivery and receives a call.

Then takes care on her own.

 

Funny enough: my goods often end up in a shop at the corner. I receive a "delivered" message and then pick it up sooner or later.

I am bemused when a mate tells me he is waiting for his COD and getting angry when it does not come at the "usual time"

 

Edited April 29, 2023 by KhunBENQ

[The Fugitive]

27 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Why should we be aware because your family members let deliver things at your wife's shop?

Sorry about the previous posting error on my part. I'm not too annoyed. At least we received something for 790 baht. It might only have been a stone in the box. More than one person ordering COD and not letting us know in advance has to be risky and should be avoided. That was my concern.

[hotandsticky]

1 hour ago, The Fugitive said:

Thanks for that! Just tried it. I didn't know that Google Translate and then by selecting Camera takes me to Google Lens. Most helpful. I'm going to be in need of this in the future! 

 

 

Why don't you save yourself a lot of grief and just don't get involved.

 

 

Leave it to the Thais  -  they know what they are doing.

[richard_smith237]

57 minutes ago, transam said:

All my hundred's of stuff has been COD, never a problem because I/we KNOW what is coming, and is checked.

So tell me, why I should not use COD and give them bank account details instead....

Six to one and half a dozen to the other.... 

 

We (Wife and I) never use CoD primarily because we are not always in when the delivery is made - we simply tell them to drop the item at the entrance (fortunately ‘porch-piracy’ is not yet a thing in Thailand and we live in a moo-baan and there is a gate to our house etc etc).

 

The downside of this is that we get scammed by Credit-Card a coupe of times per year (either my Wife or I).... this is easily identified, cancelled and no money is lost....  However...  one of Thailand’s major online vendors for transport or deliveries has a ‘weak-link’...  In Thailand, that weak-link is always likely to be a pilfering member of staff selling on card-details etc... 

I suspect one specific online shop (ending in ee) as since I have stopped using it, my card has not been used fraudulently, meanwhile my Wife, who continues to use both the ‘main ones’ continues to encounter the odd fraudulent transaction and has to deal with the bank. 

 

So.. the options are: 

a) have to deal with the bank because of a fraudulent transaction from time to time.

b) Risk the CoD scam and the PITA of having to be there whenever a delivery is made.

 

 

 

 

 

[transam]

Just now, richard_smith237 said:

Six to one and half a dozen to the other.... 

 

We (Wife and I) never use CoD primarily because we are not always in when the delivery is made - we simply tell them to drop the item at the entrance (fortunately ‘porch-piracy’ is not yet a thing in Thailand and we live in a moo-baan and there is a gate to our house etc etc).

 

The downside of this is that we get scammed by Credit-Card a coupe of times per year (either my Wife or I).... this is easily identified, cancelled and no money is lost....  However...  one of Thailand’s major online vendors for transport or deliveries has a ‘weak-link’...  In Thailand, that weak-link is always likely to be a pilfering member of staff selling on card-details etc... 

I suspect one specific online shop (ending in ee) as since I have stopped using it, my card has not been used fraudulently, meanwhile my Wife, who continues to use both the ‘main ones’ continues to encounter the odd fraudulent transaction and has to deal with the bank. 

 

So.. the options are: 

a) have to deal with the bank because of a fraudulent transaction from time to time.

b) Risk the CoD scam and the PITA of having to be there whenever a delivery is made.

 

 

 

 

 

COD delivery always phone to see if we are home, if we are not, they come the next day...........No ploblem for us.  

 

 

[worgeordie]

B790 for a USB fan , it's a scam ,you can buy a full size fan starting at half

that price, but at least you got something ,

 

regards worgeordie

[The Fugitive]

1 minute ago, worgeordie said:

B790 for a USB fan , it's a scam ,you can buy a full size fan starting at half

that price, but at least you got something ,

 

regards worgeordie

Absolutely. The blades do rotate though! Too puny to be of any use unfortunately. Going to have to thank the surrounding shopkeepers for accepting and paying for our items in the past but ask them not to do so in future.   

[Liverpool Lou]

21 hours ago, Dan O said:

Just tell all the family that you will not accept any cod packages at the shop anymore UNLESS the person ordering  it does not tell you in advance that an order was placed

"If the person does not tell you", not "unless"!  Big difference.

[Liverpool Lou]

21 hours ago, The Fugitive said:

21 hours ago, Dan O said:

Just tell all the family that you will not accept any cod packages at the shop anymore UNLESS the person ordering  it does not tell you in advance that an order was placed, what it's for and the cost of cod and leave the money for payment. 

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Thanks! That's the best suggestion!

Er, not if you actually read what his suggestion was!  He said to tell your family that "you will not accept CODs unless that person does not tell you"!   That means that you will only accept unnotified CODs.

 

I'm pretty sure that he meant, "tell your family that you will not accept CODs if that person does not tell you".

[n00dle]

22 hours ago, The Fugitive said:

the name on the parcel is written in Thai and I can't read it.

Presumably the delivery person or even Google translate can.

[The Fugitive]

3 minutes ago, n00dle said:

Presumably the delivery person or even Google translate can.

Last week one delivery guy was laughing and shaking his head at the name on one of our parcels. One of my neices uses made up names (she likes Japanese cartoon characters). That gave me more than a clue who had ordered it!