transam Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Just now, torturedsole said: Alcohol is obviously the main contributory factor but further exacerbated by the cokeheads. I'm mid-50s and been around the block but you can pretty much enter any UK pub / venue and you'll never be more than a few feet away from a bag of coke. Yes, it's always been there but definitely more prevalent nowadays and possibly more 'socially' acceptable. The mix of alcohol and higher purity of coke these days makes some users a ticking time bomb and the cokeheads will always be in the middle of any trouble. I'm not suggesting the thugs in the OP were on coke, by the way. Oh, yes you did........................ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 2 hours ago, VBF said: Laughable. The Kray thugs were far from "peacefully" - they ran PARTS of London (mainly the East End) with a reign of fear, Ever heard of sarcasm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBF Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: Ever heard of sarcasm? Yeah but I don't think that was the posters intention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Toby1947 said: Good on him, the little sh#t was probably trying to extort money like they all do. Advise plant your feet harder before throwing the left hook You always have people who blame the Thai even when it is evident that the other guys where wrong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 46 minutes ago, transam said: You missed out Australians, but I don't blame you................. Hey! I resemble that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ71 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 2 hours ago, volsfan said: Quite surprised one of the Thai bystanders did not pull a gun or 2 and start popping caps. Are you from Compton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chacha boom Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 20 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: Duly ignored your reading comprehension is clearly as big of an issue as your bigotry. I seem to recollect some brit saying about pots and kettles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukKrueng Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Neeranam said: I imagine there was little damage and the taxi driver was trying to make the most of it by asking an extortionate amount. A friend of mine was hit by a tuk tuk thing and they demanded he pay them 6,000 Bht fir a scratch to the tuk tuk. Good on the guy for showing tourists are no walkover. Most of the foreigners here would just pay up. You have a vivid imagination.... What I saw in the clip is the guy in black shirt gets off his bike, walls over to the tuktuk driver, punch him few times and then jumps on the bike and run like a baby. If there was an argument over the amount, they could have just call the police to mediate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ71 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said: Why do you think so many people ‘hit & run’ ??? Ans: For that very reason, the fear of people swarming and attacking. No, Ans: coz most of them don't have license / tax / insurance or they're under the influence ( drunk ). Only the guilty flee the scene. Apart from that comment you've pretty much got the rest figured out, as per normal when RTA are mentioned, good job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said: I doubt they would have been given the opportunity to ‘call their insurance’ guy (if they had it)... ... its quite like the TukTuk drivers eyes lit up and the inflated claims were screamed right off the bat !!!... Guess work at best to shift the blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said: Correct - it is a guess, but an educated one based on experience of being here and the history of numerous other articles in this forum alone... Do any of us really believe the TukTuk driver got out and was polite and nicely requested a perfectly reasonable amount ??? No story involving a TukTuk driver ever reported anything other than extorting cheating, aggressive characteristics - why should this TukTuk driver be any different ???? Absolut nonsense, you have a very selective memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said: Well, they didn’t try to scarper... They’d stopped... had the ‘argument’ situation escalated... one of them ‘snapped’ and decided to try and end the argument physically.... then they all tried to scarper before they were mob-handled.... In a similar situation - how do you ‘face your responsibility’ ??... ....I may be wrong of course, but seeing these things occurs before I’m guessing the TukTuk driver was very loud, verbally aggressive and claiming an exorbitant amount for damage.... (and thats if he didn’t pull out on the motorcyclists int he first place - I’m not sure I believe the TukTuk was parked) Better stop guessing to make your story valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted May 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 minute ago, PJ71 said: 1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said: Why do you think so many people ‘hit & run’ ??? Ans: For that very reason, the fear of people swarming and attacking. No, Ans: coz most of them don't have license / tax / insurance or they're under the influence ( drunk ). Valid points... all of the above too... And also because they’re scared of getting kicking from the locals. 1 minute ago, PJ71 said: Only the guilty flee the scene. And the frightened - local justice is a thing here. 1 minute ago, PJ71 said: Apart from that comment you've pretty much got the rest figured out, as per normal when RTA are mentioned, good job. Loving the support... ????... but my point is, no, its not sorted out at all... Too many times we’ve seen half a video on which half an article was written and we have pages and pages of comments of people calling for the 'death-penatly' until we ‘discover’ the full uncut video and recognise that what ever issue it was being reported was actually a little more ’tit for tat’ than we were initially led to believe.... ... such examples have made me very sceptical of what I read in the news on these forums when events such as this occur. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 30 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: Perhaps they share some DNA with the Australians? There were a few sent over there at some point. It was all the worst ones that were sent there! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: Absolut nonsense, you have a very selective memory. Seems you have too if you believe all TukTuk drivers are model citizens... ... Phuket TukTuk drivers have quite the negative reputation for a reason. 7 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: Better stop guessing to make your story valid. Its all a guess.... and I’m ‘guessing’ the TukTuk driver was not the model of innocence people such as yourself believe, having placed all your faith in the article without providing any of your own critical thought. I’ve even exampled how similar articles have been misleading in the past... (i.e. with cut videos etc)... Yes the Brits were thugs (I’ve repeated this numerous times).... Was the TukTuk driver a perfect measure of calm ???? - do you believe he was ??? What do you think happened ?? you think the Brit drove into the TukTuk... TukTuk driver go out, didn’t say a word, and the Brit just walked up and punched him ??? (Also a possibility - but usually people are triggered into violence, even d!ckhead drunk tourists). Edited May 11, 2023 by richard_smith237 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ71 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: Valid points... all of the above too... And also because they’re scared of getting kicking from the locals. And the frightened - local justice is a thing here. Loving the support... ????... but my point is, no, its not sorted out at all... Too many times we’ve seen half a video on which half an article was written and we have pages and pages of comments of people calling for the 'death-penatly' until we ‘discover’ the full uncut video and recognise that what ever issue it was being reported was actually a little more ’tit for tat’ than we were initially led to believe.... ... such examples have made me very sceptical of what I read in the news on these forums when events such as this occur. All valid points Richard. As i'm sure you're aware most of the 'altercations' ( if that's what you wish to call them ) happens with tourists, many times dunk. It's seldom that 'long timers' ( if that's what you wish to call them ) experience anything like this. In my time here i could count on one hand the amount of times i've see 'altercations', it's not that common. NB!! support will continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said: Was the TukTuk driver a perfect measure of calm ???? - do you believe he was ??? I am not going to guess / make up wild stories if I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 minute ago, PJ71 said: All valid points Richard. As i'm sure you're aware most of the 'altercations' ( if that's what you wish to call them ) happens with tourists, many times dunk. It's seldom that 'long timers' ( if that's what you wish to call them ) experience anything like this. In my time here i could count on one hand the amount of times i've see 'altercations', it's not that common. NB!! support will continue. Agreed.. Booze definitely a factor... Unfortunately, these area’s attract the worst and the dregs of both worlds. I also agree... I seldom see altercations, but that said, I could have been involved in many, if I’d argued back with a TukTuk / Taxi trying to rip me off etc... language makes a big difference too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: 8 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: Was the TukTuk driver a perfect measure of calm ???? - do you believe he was ??? I am not going to guess / make up wild stories if I don't know. Fair enough - its all speculation.... and this is a forum designed for discussion... Perhaps you are better off reading the news. However, I’m not as confident as you to blindly accept everything I read in articles such as this as absolute fact... as they say “there’s more to the story”..... and it could be that some convenient facts were omitted here... where is the earlier part of the video ??? Or is that the start ? Edited May 11, 2023 by richard_smith237 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacknorman Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 why not arrest the tuk-tuk driver for extortion he probably do every day on multiple occasions and exaggerating price for the damage 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: Agreed.. Booze definitely a factor... Oh no, booze is THE factor. I know nice, gentle people who have killed people whilst drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torturedsole Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 14 minutes ago, PJ71 said: No, Ans: coz most of them don't have license / tax / insurance or they're under the influence ( drunk ). Even if they were licenced (doubt it), taxed (only if licenced), insured (only if licenced and taxed) their travel insurance (doubt they thought of that) would be invalidated by virtue of not wearing helmets. GoFundMe patrons in the making. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post soalbundy Posted May 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Neeranam said: I imagine there was little damage and the taxi driver was trying to make the most of it by asking an extortionate amount. A friend of mine was hit by a tuk tuk thing and they demanded he pay them 6,000 Bht fir a scratch to the tuk tuk. Good on the guy for showing tourists are no walkover. Most of the foreigners here would just pay up. So of course the thing to do was to act like an animal and resort to violence. What these 'gentlemen' don't realize is that many tuk tuk drivers aren't the owners, they rent them and have to pay the damage themselves and while the vehicle is being repaired they aren't earning. There is something about young Brits that is alarming (I am an old Brit) the propensity to resort to violence with or without alcohol, with alcohol the are real primitives. It's a delight to find somewhere without Brits on holiday. I do hope they get locked up. Edited May 11, 2023 by soalbundy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ71 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Just now, torturedsole said: Even if they were licenced (doubt it), taxed (only if licenced), insured (only if licenced and taxed) their travel insurance (doubt they thought of that) would be invalidated by virtue of not wearing helmets. GoFundMe patrons in the making. Sorry, for clarity i was talking about Thais that leave the scene of RTAs, normally tourists do not flee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torturedsole Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Just now, PJ71 said: Sorry, for clarity i was talking about Thais that leave the scene of RTAs, normally tourists do not flee. No probs. I was merely pointing out the insurance aspect and used your quote to make my point. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, torturedsole said: Even if they were licenced (doubt it), taxed (only if licenced), insured (only if licenced and taxed) their travel insurance (doubt they thought of that) would be invalidated by virtue of not wearing helmets. GoFundMe patrons in the making. The bikes' owner tax the bike, not the rider, compulsory insurance is for the ride in Thailand.... Edited May 11, 2023 by transam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3NUMBAS Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 4 hours ago, Tahoe said: Ahhh...the dreaded 'finger pointing'. That kills me everytime ???? usualy a pair of testicles chopped off 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ71 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, transam said: compulsory insurance is for the ride in Thailand.... but void if dunk, right? or if no valid license? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 minute ago, PJ71 said: but void if dunk, right? or if no valid license? Tax is for the ride, compulsory insurance is for the ride.. Private insurance is a different matter... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ71 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 minute ago, transam said: Tax is for the ride, compulsory insurance is for the ride.. Private insurance is a different matter... i understand that, but does the compulsory insurance cover pissed tourists, i highly doubt it.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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