Prayut says he respects election results

[Chicksaw]

Thais are dancing in the streets now. MF winning means the young generation wins. Which means those who are going to live here the next 50 years get to decide how they are going to live.

 

At least, theoretically. Unless the Army, elite and Voldemort panic into doing something stupid. In which case, the place will explode.

Edited May 15, 2023 by Chicksaw

[Kaopad999]

53 minutes ago, h90 said:

In my opinion...the incompetent military sits there fat and happy do nothing and steals a 10% of everything. Which is kind of OK for me.
Because they others steal more and make problems....Prayuth time was silent.... no red shirts no yellow shirts no blood on the street. No war against drugs with many bystander dead. No big corruption cases, no manic 3 word dictator rants on TV. Just boring normal life. (and it would have been so easy to repair a few problems when he was still dictator the first couple of years. Doing some reforms that are needed....but no nothing). I guess not long and the circus from hell with whatever color TShirts will soon begin again

Despite the challenges, those devides continue to thrive. However, people are now more reluctant to participate in protests due to the potential consequences they may face. The Move Forward Party is determined to unite the nation and alleviate divisions. Unfortunately, the dictator has failed to address this issue effectively, relying instead on instilling fear in the population to maintain submission

 

Edited May 15, 2023 by Kaopad999

[Bangkok Barry]

Everyone is writing as if the result is a done deal. It isn't. From an earlier Webfact report:
The key question now is the fate of both the Move Forward and Pheu Thai parties which are facing disturbing probes by the Election Commission and the attitude of the Thai Senate or upper house which still retains 250 votes in the selection of the next prime minister when parliament convenes in the coming months.

[GreasyFingers]

13 minutes ago, Kaopad999 said:

The Move Forward Party is determined to unite the nation and alleviate divisions.

With only 30% of the vote they have some work to do.

[herfiehandbag]

5 hours ago, BenStark said:

And that is the snake in the grass.

 

Anyone know when the senators vote takes place?

Well given that the EC has 60 days to certify the results, presumably not until after that has happened, and the new parliament meets. When it meets it selects a new Prime Minister (of course any coalition negotiations will take place before then). That is when the Senate can swing into action.

 

All very leisurely to one like me who is used to the way elections are held in the UK. Voting on the Thursday, Result usually known by dawn on the Friday. If the incumbent is defeated the removal vans are in on Friday morning, the successor appointed by the King around midday, major ministerial appointments announced by the evening, the rest of the cabinet squared away over the weekend and all up and running by Monday! I am sure most other democracies are the same. We certainly don't leave the defeated party in power as a caretaker (with their paws on the machinery of power) for the next two months!

[Chicksaw]

15 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

the Move Forward and Pheu Thai parties which are facing disturbing probes by the Election Commission

I seriously doubt the EC is going to say, Yea, you collectively won about 60% of the people's vote but who gives a rat's. Out you go.

 

This is a serious mandate they are up against. Not the same situation as when they did Voldemort's bidding and banished Thanathorn from politics because V was jealous of our handsome and popular young hero (like his pa was jealous of Thaksin, which started the whole 2-decades coup-coaster).

[Mavideol]

9 hours ago, webfact said:

Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha on Sunday night said he respects the election results

does that mean that he ACCEPTS the election results..... I used to respect my father but sometimes didn't Accept his decisions

The Difference Between Respect And Accept

You do not need to accept in order to respect; know the difference.

 

https://www.theodysseyonline.com/difference-between-respect-accept

Edited May 15, 2023 by Mavideol

[snoop1130]

Prayut Chan-o-cha may leave politics – Thanakorn

 

Thai Prime Minister and United Thai Nation Party’s candidate Prayut Chan-O-Cha leaves the partyís headquarters as votes continue to be counted, during Thailand’s general election in Bangkok on May 14, 2023. (Photo by Lillian SUWANRUMPHA / AFP)

 

Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha may consider ending his political career, United Thai Nation Party’s deputy leader Thanakorn Wangboonkongchana said on Monday.

 

Thanakorn said he personally believes this to be the case, but Prayut has not spoken to him about his plans for the future.

 

“He has worked for the country throughout his life and for the benefit of Thai people throughout his eight years as the prime minister. I personally believe that it is enough for him in the political arena,” said Thanakorn.

 

Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/prayut-chan-o-cha-may-leave-politics-thanakorn/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2023-05-15

 

- Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here.

 

The most versatile and flexible rental investment and holiday home solution in Thailand - click for more information.

[BangkokReady]

9 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Does this respect for democratic process include his 250 military lackeys in the Senate?

Yes.  When they name him as the new Prime Minister, he will absolutely respect their wishes.

[Huckenfell]

9 hours ago, h90 said:

If the courts don't cancel the two parties these 250 will have to vote for PTP or MF premier.
But the bigger issue is that PTP and MF maybe broke the election laws with several cases and the parties might be disbanded. But disbanding the two biggest parties is really bad. Let them go away with braking the law is equal bad.

Was it lawful for the military to have a coup ?

 

[BangkokReady]

18 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

does that mean that he ACCEPTS the election results..... I used to respect my father but sometimes didn't Accept his decisions

The Difference Between Respect And Accept

You do not need to accept in order to respect; know the difference.

 

https://www.theodysseyonline.com/difference-between-respect-accept

So what does he mean when he says he "respects the results"?

[MrMojoRisin]

1 hour ago, h90 said:

My guess is: he says he accepts the result, and wait till the EC makes problems and than he present himself as the stable alternative....Specially as the EC will cause problems

You, at some point, are going to have to wake up and accept reality - Prayuth is gone, finito, done and dusted. You are unfortunately going to have to spend the rest of your days in Thailand suffering under democracy.

[3NUMBAS]

at the  point of a gun

[dinsdale]

8 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Yes.  When they name him as the new Prime Minister, he will absolutely respect their wishes.

Things have advanced considerably from this post. Prayut is gone. Pita will be the new PM of Thailand.

 

[Huckenfell]

8 hours ago, HaoleBoy said:

You speak about the constitution that his party wrote?  Of course he wanted amnesty for himself and the sleepy toad.  That's a sign of a criminal that knows he did wrong.
Does that make it right?  Are coups acceptable political behaviour?  NO.  Did he break the law before the new constitution was written and pushed through?  YES

 

His reliance on China CrapVacs ... you really want to go there?

 

No corruption?  He appointed all the National Anti-Corruption Commission people.
How is 'The Boss' case going?  Did he release the report put together on all the corruption that is associated with this case as he stated he would?
His nephew's involvement with the military construction contracts?
His nephew's involvement with the tour bus business?

 

People point to the 10,000 THB give away by the PTP.  There was an analysis done regarding all the  political party money give-aways and the actual cost for 10 yrs.  Raising minimum wage to 1,000 THB was one of the most costly. 
The PPP party said they would give 30,000 THB to every farmer.  Cost is high.

 

You have very selective memory of all that he did (and DIDN'T do) over the past 9 yrs.

He kept the people poor by spending billions on the armed forces which was not necessary as no one was threateng Thailand.

[Huckenfell]

6 hours ago, Will B Good said:

Shame he didn't respect the previous free election result.

Free election ??

[BangkokReady]

5 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Things have advanced considerably from this post. Prayut is gone. Pita will be the new PM of Thailand.

 

The senate has chosen him?

[Huckenfell]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

UTN Says Prayut to Remain in Politics
by Paul Rujopakarn

 

BANGKOK (NNT) - The leader of the United Thai Nation Party (UTN) has announced that Gen Prayut Chan-o-cha will continue his political career while adhering to established norms regarding the formation of a new government.

 

UTN, which ran Gen Prayut as its prime ministerial candidate, has pledged to respect political tradition in the transfer of power to the next government. The party’s leader, Pirapan Salirathavibhaga, also confirmed that UTN will not deviate from the conventional process, which grants the party with the highest number of House seats the right to form the new government.

 

Pirapan further emphasized the party’s commitment to upholding these norms and expressed satisfaction with UTN’s performance since its establishment two years ago. When asked about Gen Prayut’s future in politics and his association with UTN, he said Gen Prayut will remain involved as the party’s chief strategist.

 

Gen Prayut meanwhile expressed gratitude to all the voters who supported him and his party. He acknowledged his efforts to work in the national interest and promote development, while also affirming his respect for democracy.

 

However, he refrained from commenting on the likelihood of the Pheu Thai Party forming a new government or the possibility of a minority government resulting from the votes of the 250 senators.

Source: https://thainews.prd.go.th/en/news/detail/TCATG230515113832739

 

-- © Copyright NNT 2023-05-15

 

- Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here.

 

The most versatile and flexible rental investment and holiday home solution in Thailand - click for more information.

In other words, he has no intention of going anywhere.  As usual.

[dinsdale]

Just now, BangkokReady said:

The senate has chosen him?

They will have 309 MP's. You would expect that part of the coalition deal is to vote for him as PM. I think the 250 senate lackeys will abandon Prayut. The people have spoken in the most emphatic way in Thailand's history. MFP and PT have a clear mandate from the people for change.

[BangkokReady]

2 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

They will have 309 MP's. You would expect that part of the coalition deal is to vote for him as PM. I think the 250 senate lackeys will abandon Prayut. The people have spoken in the most emphatic way in Thailand's history. MFP and PT have a clear mandate from the people for change.

They might abandon Prayut, but that doesn't mean they will abandon whoever is in charge and not pick the guy the guy they want.

 

I hope they do select Pita, but I think it's wise to at least consider that fact that it could go another way.

[brucegoniners]

FINALLY! Now, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[UbonEagle]

Agree with dinsdale I think the senate rats will abandon uncle and clamber onboard to get some favour with the new powerbrokers 

BTW with this senate - who now appoints a replacement when one retires/dies etc ?

and does this current model finish up at the next election or will it need to be legislated out ?

[dinsdale]

5 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

They might abandon Prayut, but that doesn't mean they will abandon whoever is in charge and not pick the guy the guy they want.

 

I hope they do select Pita, but I think it's wise to at least consider that fact that it could go another way.

Who? That's the thing. If Prayut somehow manages it or it's another military man I don't think the people will stand for it. MFP coalition will have a clear majority in the house so what would the political situation be with a hostile house against the PM. Can there be a vote of no confindence against the PM? If there can then the ruling coalition would win the vote of no confidence easily thus ousting the PM. I'm not sure. 

[dinsdale]

6 minutes ago, UbonEagle said:

Agree with dinsdale I think the senate rats will abandon uncle and clamber onboard to get some favour with the new powerbrokers 

BTW with this senate - who now appoints a replacement when one retires/dies etc ?

and does this current model finish up at the next election or will it need to be legislated out ?

There will be a referendum to reform the constitution and the senate.

Edited May 15, 2023 by dinsdale

[sambum]

2 hours ago, nchuckle said:

So you pay no heed to Global politics, only the one where you vote? A somewhat parochial,insular standpoint. Do you think you haven't been effected by political events in the likes of Russia, China etc.? Of course international opinion is relevant to a country's political standing. 

Yes, we haven't heard the "If you don't like it, go home" war cry for a long time.

 

I think that the majority, if not all the expats realise that we have no say in the running of the country (i.e. no vote) but that doesn't prevent us from having an opinion!

[torturedsole]

Is democracy the perfect fit for Thai society? And is democracy what they're going to get?

 

 

[edwinchester]

"I personally believe that it is enough for him in the political arena,” said Thanakorn"

 

Which is the polite way of saying  "<deleted> it, I backed the wrong horse."

Edited May 15, 2023 by edwinchester

[daejung]

Dictators respect nothing

[herfiehandbag]

Back last year do you remember when a certain large and distinctive motor car was booed and heckled by protesters? Cameras clearly caught the occupants with a remarkable "rabbits caught in the headlights" look about them.

 

I wonder if that look is being seen again?

[billd766]

10 hours ago, h90 said:

The previous...was this the Samak corruption case? Or something different?

It was certainly in the Bangkok Post, or don't you read the bits that you don't like.

 

Ypu are the one that claims all the Thai news is in the newspapers.

 

You claimed it, now you find it.