BREAKING NEWS: Burisma executive who allegedly paid Biden has audio recordings of conversations with Joe, Hunter, Sen. says

[ozimoron]

Matt Gaetz admits FBI 'whistleblower' can only produce 'allegation' against Biden

 

https://www.rawstory.com/matt-gaetz-biden-allegation/

 

And the kicker, consolation prizes for the team

 

Gaetz said that Republican lawmakers could take foreign trips to secure bank records.

Edited June 13, 2023 by ozimoron

[riclag]

Tennessee lawmaker files Articles of Impeachment against President Joe Biden.

The bill also claims a form filed by the Biden administration which was obtained by a GOP committee this year "reportedly details a bribery scheme in which members of the Biden family, including Joseph Robinette Biden, received $5,000,000 each to assist Burisma Holdings."

https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/tennessee-lawmaker-files-articles-of-impeachment-against-president-joe-biden-politics-republican-democrat-andy-ogles-hunter-biden

 

I dont see the Senate which is held by his party convicting biden if the house impeached him!

Hopefully this creates enough political fodder to destroy the guy and his administration!

[Scott]

A post making an unsubstantiated claim has been removed.

 

[ozimoron]

45 minutes ago, riclag said:

Tennessee lawmaker files Articles of Impeachment against President Joe Biden.

The bill also claims a form filed by the Biden administration which was obtained by a GOP committee this year "reportedly details a bribery scheme in which members of the Biden family, including Joseph Robinette Biden, received $5,000,000 each to assist Burisma Holdings."

https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/tennessee-lawmaker-files-articles-of-impeachment-against-president-joe-biden-politics-republican-democrat-andy-ogles-hunter-biden

 

I dont see the Senate which is held by his party convicting biden if the house impeached him!

Hopefully this creates enough political fodder to destroy the guy and his administration!

Even though it's a political trial they will still need to produce some evidence. Absent solid evidence its dead on arrival in the senate.

[candide]

23 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Even though it's a political trial they will still need to produce some evidence. Absent solid evidence its dead on arrival in the senate.

Probably dead on departure too!

[Skipalongcassidy]

18 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

 

Republicans control the House, where they could easily bring impeachment charges. 

 

Why they haven't yet is curious. And why are they wasting time on "weaponization" investigations, when they could be pursuing Impeachment?

 

 

My guess is that they have bupkis, and are "trying" the "case" against Pres. Joe in the court of public opinion.

 

 

And I too am surprised that drivel from Grassley and Fox News is allowed here.

 

Oh well, red meat for the rightwingnutjobs. They need to eat too.

 

 

 

 

 

The Impeachment articles are being drawn up as you ask... unlike the democraps, the republicans are organizing and vetting their information first

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

The Impeachment articles are being drawn up as you ask... unlike the democraps, the republicans are organizing and vetting their information first

Drawn from a universe of alternative facts, no doubt.

I don't know what political stripe Jack Smith is; however, he seems to have organised the 37 articles of indictment very convincingly.

Vetting is not needed, it's words out of Trump's own mouth.

Permit me to doubt Joe Biden has been as stupid.

Edited June 13, 2023 by Lacessit

[heybruce]

8 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

I'm sorry, when you said he was grifting, I assumed that made him a grifter. 

 

Why would you? They're on your side.

Not like the left....

I was referring to "the laptop was disinformation: part of you post; I never said that the laptop was disinformation.  The rest of my post made it clear that I was referring to the laptop part of your post.  Try to improve your reading comprehension.

[placeholder]

23 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

And then candidate Biden quoted them in the debate. 

Therefore?

[placeholder]

23 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

I'm sorry, when you said he was grifting, I assumed that made him a grifter. 

 

Why would you? They're on your side.

 

Actually, William Barr launched John Durham on an investigation designed to prove just that. Durham came up with nothing,.

[ozimoron]

So, the entire right wing hopes of exposing Biden bribery just went down the toilet. The Burisma tapes thing is a MAGA hoax.

 

Rudy Giuliani says key Biden whistleblower no one has ever heard of has died

 

Rep. James Comer (R-KY) and Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) have claimed that they saw an FBI document that reports a bribery and money laundering scheme by President Joe Biden and his son Hunter.

 

The document is called an FD-1023 form and it's what agents use when they get a tip from the public about a possible crime. There is reason to believe that Rudy Giuliani is the one who made that report, given comments in Bill Barr's autobiography.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/biden-burisma-whistleblower-giuliani/

Edited June 16, 2023 by ozimoron

[GroveHillWanderer]

The problem with this story of tapes "proving" the whole Joe Biden-Burisma bribery scheme is that there's no evidence the tapes actually exist.

 

As that article also points out:

 

Quote

... there are no tapes that have yet surfaced. The FBI doesn't have tapes. Giuliani doesn't have tapes. Comer and Grassley don't have tapes.

 

[Tug]

On 6/13/2023 at 1:13 PM, Skipalongcassidy said:

The Impeachment articles are being drawn up as you ask... unlike the democraps, the republicans are organizing and vetting their information first

Hey what happened to the retrumplickian smear?did they lack proof perhaps?they seem kinda quiet what happened?lol 

[vandeventer]

Lets hear the tapes so we can make up our own minds, all this talk is going nowhere.

[ThailandRyan]

46 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Lets hear the tapes so we can make up our own minds, all this talk is going nowhere.

As with everything talk is cheap and now Republicans do not even believe the tapes are anything more than a defelection

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/republicans-admit-don-t-know-171458011.html

 

Yet, while top GOP lawmakers have breathlessly promoted these purported tapes as an absolute bombshell proving the corruption of the president and his family, they’ve simultaneously acknowledged that these recordings may not exist at all and could be “just a bluff.”

[bamnutsak]

Grassely and Comer, Tweedle dumb, and tweedle dumber.

 

‘Maybe they don’t exist’: Republicans question legitimacy of alleged audio recordings of Biden bribery scheme

 

House Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan, who also serves on the Oversight panel and has made the Department of Justice and FBI a target of his investigative efforts, told CNN of the tapes, “I have no reason to doubt anything Senator Grassley says, but I don’t know if they exist or not.”

 

And Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson, who led his own investigation into the Biden family in 2020 and has long peddled the notion of wrongdoing, said in a separate Newsmax interview, “I’m not even aware that we verified those recordings exist.”

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/15/politics/republican-reaction-alleged-audio-recordings-biden-bribery-scheme/index.html

 

 

This is like Benghazi Part Deux.

 

 

[ThailandRyan]

1 minute ago, bamnutsak said:

Grassely and Comer, Tweedle dumb, and tweedle dumber.

 

‘Maybe they don’t exist’: Republicans question legitimacy of alleged audio recordings of Biden bribery scheme

 

House Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan, who also serves on the Oversight panel and has made the Department of Justice and FBI a target of his investigative efforts, told CNN of the tapes, “I have no reason to doubt anything Senator Grassley says, but I don’t know if they exist or not.”

 

And Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson, who led his own investigation into the Biden family in 2020 and has long peddled the notion of wrongdoing, said in a separate Newsmax interview, “I’m not even aware that we verified those recordings exist.”

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/15/politics/republican-reaction-alleged-audio-recordings-biden-bribery-scheme/index.html

 

 

This is like Benghazi Part Deux.

 

 

Yet the MAGA group and Trumpers believe, yes believe they exist and continue to say how much evidence there is against Biden.  IF they have it produce it, investigate it, and then as with Trump, prosecute him after his term in office is up as he enjoys the same benefits which Trump did as a sitting president.  Of course if they had the evidence they could also try and impeach him......

[bamnutsak]

15 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Yet the MAGA group and Trumpers believe, yes believe they exist and continue to say how much evidence there is against Biden. 

Like Joe Biden is gonna cave on his core beliefs for $ 5 million? He could get a book deal for $25 m.

 

Heck, Jared Kushner took $ 2 Billion from PIF. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/05/jared-kushner-affinity-partners-saudi-arabia

 

These rightwingnut jobs think Pres. Joe is like Dr. Evil, asking for "one million dollars". You can't make this stuff up, unless you're a republican zealot with little interest in legislatin'.

 

 

http://www.disclosures.org/joe-biden-financial-disclosures/

[Tug]

6 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

Like Joe Biden is gonna cave on his core beliefs for $ 5 million? He could get a book deal for $25 m.

 

Heck, Jared Kushner took $ 2 Billion from PIF. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/05/jared-kushner-affinity-partners-saudi-arabia

 

These rightwingnut jobs think Pres. Joe is like Dr. Evil, asking for "one million dollars". You can't make this stuff up, unless you're a republican zealot with little interest in legislatin'.

 

 

http://www.disclosures.org/joe-biden-financial-disclosures/

I think we are witnessing a drowning Republican Party desperately clutching at anything they can to distract from the humiliation trump has rendered to the Republican Party they know they are sticking up for at best a careless fool or worse a straight up traitor 

[SunnyinBangrak]

51 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

Grassely and Comer, Tweedle dumb, and tweedle dumber.

 

‘Maybe they don’t exist’: Republicans question legitimacy of alleged audio recordings of Biden bribery scheme

 

House Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan, who also serves on the Oversight panel and has made the Department of Justice and FBI a target of his investigative efforts, told CNN of the tapes, “I have no reason to doubt anything Senator Grassley says, but I don’t know if they exist or not.”

 

And Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson, who led his own investigation into the Biden family in 2020 and has long peddled the notion of wrongdoing, said in a separate Newsmax interview, “I’m not even aware that we verified those recordings exist.”

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/15/politics/republican-reaction-alleged-audio-recordings-biden-bribery-scheme/index.html

 

 

This is like Benghazi Part Deux.

 

 

Using "facts" from 2020 while discussing the bidens is clearly problematic. Many "facts" have changed. The laptop being verified as authentic not "russian disinformation" and that payments from dodgy foreigners to a web of shell companies associated with the bidens exist at all for starters.

 

Edited June 17, 2023 by SunnyinBangrak

[bamnutsak]

8 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

payments from dodgy foreigners to a web of shell companies associated with the bidens

When you're done doing your best James Comer impression maybe you could support this allegation, for starters.

 

 

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, vandeventer said:

Lets hear the tapes so we can make up our own minds, all this talk is going nowhere.

Which tapes?

[ozimoron]

2 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Lets hear the tapes so we can make up our own minds, all this talk is going nowhere.

Apparently we could be waiting a while.

[ozimoron]

26 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Using "facts" from 2020 while discussing the bidens is clearly problematic. Many "facts" have changed. The laptop being verified as authentic not "russian disinformation" and that payments from dodgy foreigners to a web of shell companies associated with the bidens exist at all for starters.

 

Yeah, I'll pass on the pudenda pics. If there was any fraud there we'd know by now.

[Pink Mist]

An off-topic posted link which is regarding the Biden family's dealings with China has been removed.

 

This OP is not about the Bidens and China

[LosLobo]

Here is today's comprehension summary of the current state of play so far of Fox News' "BREAKING NEWS.........

 

It is obviously MSNBC's response to Comer's  comment ''Your have the MSNBC with their low IQ audience sitting there.......''.

 

Perhaps Comer could be self-projecting here.

 

 

 

[GroveHillWanderer]

4 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Lets hear the tapes so we can make up our own minds, all this talk is going nowhere.

Did you miss the part where it's been established that nobody involved in these claims actually knows whether there are any tapes?

 

All we have so far, is Chuck Grassley talking about an unverified, uncorroborated tip from an unidentified "confidential human source" who claimed that there was somebody who had some tapes.

 

There is as yet, no evidence that these tapes actually exist, as both Jim Jordan and Ron Johnson have acknowledged.

[candide]

3 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

Like Joe Biden is gonna cave on his core beliefs for $ 5 million? He could get a book deal for $25 m.

 

Heck, Jared Kushner took $ 2 Billion from PIF. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/05/jared-kushner-affinity-partners-saudi-arabia

 

These rightwingnut jobs think Pres. Joe is like Dr. Evil, asking for "one million dollars". You can't make this stuff up, unless you're a republican zealot with little interest in legislatin'.

 

 

http://www.disclosures.org/joe-biden-financial-disclosures/

Exactly! It's ridiculous to think that one can corrupt a VP with a few miserable million dollars. Even for a plain envoy like Kushner, the price is already by billion!

Edited June 17, 2023 by candide

[billd766]

5 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Using "facts" from 2020 while discussing the bidens is clearly problematic. Many "facts" have changed. The laptop being verified as authentic not "russian disinformation" and that payments from dodgy foreigners to a web of shell companies associated with the bidens exist at all for starters.

 

Sigh.  And where is the proof that you keep bleating about?

 

If you have it, then publish it.

 

If you don't have the proof, then please stop with your baseless allegations and grabbing at any passing straw.

[mikebike]

12 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Lets hear the tapes so we can make up our own minds, all this talk is going nowhere.

What tapes? There is literally no real evidence they exist.