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Online trends - do you know what is happening online? Do you care?

 

No.

Other than this forum I ignore almost everything else on line- it's just not worth bothering with, and I have better things to do with my time.

Humanity would be better off if social media had never been invented, IMO.

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4 hours ago, Lacessit said:

I have found it is no use attempting to discuss global warming and climate change with anyone who has no understanding of the laws of thermodynamics.

I agree, it is crazy to be saving the planet with electric cars when the electricity that propels them comes from power stations that are burning fossil fuel. Virtue signalling at its best.

By 2050, conservative models of the Tibetan Plateau's glaciers and ice fields are predicting the flows of water to the Ganges, Brahmaputra and Mekong rivers will be halved. 1 billion people depend on those rivers. It will create unprecedented economic refugeeism, possibly made worse by the Chinese damming everything under their control.  

Scientists are on average 0.5% of most populations. Your post is a good example of how their message gets swamped on social media by sheer numbers.

Also how most people instinctively reject information they don't want to hear.

And some people don't only listen to those people who shout loudest. 

There are some good videos with Bjørn Lomborg out there with not just one simple solution to very complex problems. And he is obviously not the only one who doesn't see the catastrophe which other like to promote.

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4 hours ago, save the frogs said:

some of the biggest channels on youtube are also some of the most stupid channels.

 

i don't believe all these youtubers like Mr Beast are independent youtubers.

i believe some of these folks are being financed by large corporations to grow their channels to gain a massive following. 

“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”
― George Carlin

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3 hours ago, Hummin said:

No money to fuel the economic with logic solutions! The car industry is one of the biggest drive in the economic for many countries today, still only 18 of the population owns one car or more! 

Personally I think two motorcycles are enough, at least inside Bangkok. ???? 

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27 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Other than this forum I ignore almost everything else on line- it's just not worth bothering with, and I have better things to do with my time.

like what?

what is keeping you so busy that you have absolutely no curiosity about anything going on in the world? 

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15 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Sometimes people talk about online trends, and how the world is so different from years ago because of this and that online.

The problem with online trends is that predictive algorithms taylor's your search results to match   your interests . The YouTube I see is entirely different than the YouTube you see, consequently biases that one might have get re-enforced.  What one might consider to be a "trend" is usually only a trend in one's predictive algorithm buble. And it is difficult to  escape. I have presently switched from Google search to DuckDuckGo because it does not keep personal information.

I found that after doing a search on Google, You tube would be full of videos about  relating to my Google search content.  I often am hesitant to click on a Youtube video because if I do, all of a sudden I will find my personal YouTube  page populated with similar subjects. So I log off my Youtube account and suddenly YouTube is entirely different. 

    PS: Lex  Friedman's opening monologue puts me to sleep. I suspect he pops  a couple of  quaaludes before he starts. His story is that he speaks so slow because be is being thoughtful, bus shouldn't he have thought of his opening monolog before he started his podcast?  

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3 hours ago, save the frogs said:

yeah, you are right.

but i believe the folks in power have gotten some scary doomsday data from scientists ...

like make some changes soon or the whole planet is screwed. 

so $ is not the only driving factor anymore for their decisions. 

that's just my belief. could be wrong. 

I think one of the big problems is that politicians mostly don't understand complex science - like many of us. So scientist have to make a 10 page summary of their long study. And then probably a one page summary for the politicians. And that summary is obviously often like: Which part of my study do you want for your summary (for political reasons).

It's complicate - far too complicate for 5min news.

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4 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Probably the most boring reason of all to use facebook, i get all sorts of feeds, facebook constantly includes posts from groups i would never have thought of, and then can follow if you want.

 

Also Facebook Reels are entertaining, i thought it was just a bargirl thing

It's the only reason, I have a big family and many friends that like to keep in touch.

I guess Messager is used more than the main Facebook page because free calls etc.

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I'm starting to see the light. I had Facebook for about 10 years, never really enjoyed it and for some reason I felt like I HAD to have a Facebook account. You know, friends, family, business contacts, marketplace. 

 

Then, last year I found out my old boss from 35 years ago died. His son took over his account to tell everybody that he passed. The guy was like a father figure to me, when I was 22 and out of control I got into some serious trouble..he was the only one who told me the truth "you're going to lead a hard life, accept it now or it will be way worse". Such insight, it hurt because I knew he was right, the very first time I saw what other people saw. I respected him for that stinging observation.  When he died I deleted my damn Facebook account, and no Twitter either. 

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No Facebook Twitter Instagram. Yes to online working from home. Love it. Soon our union will hopefully make is so we can work home more than 2 days a week. Influences whether I retire sooner or later. Today system went down at office so sitting here getting paid to do nothing at home. Sad.

So access to the online world can be a good thing. 

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4 hours ago, sirineou said:

Lex  Friedman's opening monologue puts me to sleep. I suspect he pops  a couple of  quaaludes before he starts. His story is that he speaks so slow because be is being thoughtful, bus shouldn't he have thought of his opening monolog before he started his podcast? 

I guess one needs to see a few of his videos before we get the taste.

I saw by now maybe 20 or more of his 2-to-4-hour videos. Mostly I watched them up to the last minute and I liked them. He has a talent to talk to all kinds of people. I.e. I think Kanye West is crazy (best case), but I still watched Lex Friedman interviewing him.

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To the title ... know or care ... No & No

 

I don't do trends, I do me.  Internet to me is;

... a wee bit of news

... a wee bit educational

... a wee bit entertainment

 

Have FB to keep in contact with all my family & friends afar, all 15 of them on FB.  Only 5 are not family.

 

IG for promo of daughter's site, and only thing I'm on there for.

 

Twitter is for twits, as is TikTok for ding dongs.

 

Anything else, I have to plead ignorance.  I don't have any TV/cable programming, and haven't for past 30+ yrs.

 

YT for edu/ent factor, only subscribe to <10 channels, maybe 4 active (cooking).

 

Gmap & G for info & research, most O&As (hotels/restaurants/purchases)

 

AN ... on & off during the day, in between living, enjoying ourselves.

 

Usually AM w/coffee, or if raining, and or stuck in the house, then I'm trollin' your butts all day, while contemplating suicide, waiting for the dog to ask me to take her for another walk.

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4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

And some people don't only listen to those people who shout loudest. 

There are some good videos with Bjørn Lomborg out there with not just one simple solution to very complex problems. And he is obviously not the only one who doesn't see the catastrophe which other like to promote.

Quite a few people on this planet will be affected by clima changes, and starts to migrate, which will lead to an international crises. 

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58 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

That's the great thing about being stupid. They don't realize how stupid they are - at least I think so.

See also: Dunning–Kruger effect - Wikipedia

Yes, beer, sport and easy women, you got everything you need in life. No worries 

 

And forgot people around you who like to talk about the same, over and over again and again. A never ending circuit 

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19 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Quite a few people on this planet will be affected by clima changes, and starts to migrate, which will lead to an international crises. 

Do you think more people will migrate because it is one degree warmer? Or because of wars, better opportunities in other countries, etc.

I am sure I won't move out of Thailand back to Europe because it is warmer here. 

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9 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Do you think more people will migrate because it is one degree warmer? Or because of wars, better opportunities in other countries, etc.

I am sure I won't move out of Thailand back to Europe because it is warmer here. 

Higher sea level, more drought, less land area and it will be hunger, and also challenge the world stability. But not much difference in our time I guess 

 

What do you think? 

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5 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

And some people don't only listen to those people who shout loudest. 

There are some good videos with Bjørn Lomborg out there with not just one simple solution to very complex problems. And he is obviously not the only one who doesn't see the catastrophe which other like to promote.

In other words, Professor Lomborg ( qualifications in political science ) is in tune with your confirmation bias, so you prefer his cherry-picking of data as it feels more comfortable. I put him in the same class as scientists who worked in the tobacco industry, to make said product more addictive.

I don't have any skin in this game, I'll be dead by the time the worst hits. Having said that, I do prefer facts and evidence to BS published by someone with no education in the hard sciences, and no experience at the coal face. An academic in an ivory tower.

Most scientists are worried about the butterfly effect aka a tipping point, or Black Swan event. It could be triggered by albedo or clathrates, I'll bet Lomborg glosses over those inconveniences.

What training in thermodynamics do you have?

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10 hours ago, save the frogs said:

yeah, you are right.

but i believe the folks in power have gotten some scary doomsday data from scientists ...

like make some changes soon or the whole planet is screwed. 

so $ is not the only driving factor anymore for their decisions. 

that's just my belief. could be wrong. 

 

When the previous government in Australia had a Prime Minister's Department which was staffed 90% by people with links to the fossil fuel industry, no surprise any data from scientists was swept under the rug.

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6 hours ago, save the frogs said:

like what?

what is keeping you so busy that you have absolutely no curiosity about anything going on in the world? 

LOL. Some of us actually have a life that doesn't involve being on line all day.

I have dozens of things I can do that don't involve looking at a screen.

 

Who said I have no interest in the world? Between Al Jazeera and the world news subforum I get as much as I need about what is happening out there.

I'd never rely on face thingy, or the twit thing etc which is just as well as I don't go on them.

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1 hour ago, Hummin said:

Higher sea level, more drought, less land area and it will be hunger, and also challenge the world stability. But not much difference in our time I guess 

 

What do you think? 

I think climate change will bring about mass starvation, as IMO humans have exceeded their welcome on planet earth and seems to me that Gaia is gearing up to reduce our numbers.

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2 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Anything else, I have to plead ignorance.  I don't have any TV/cable programming, and haven't for past 30+ yrs.

I do have freeview tv on which I watch Al Jazeera, but the rest of the channels are so ad replete and the content so boring I wouldn't waste any time on watching them.

I'm old enough to remember enjoyable tv shows that didn't have ads every 10 minutes, but that was long, long ago.

Nothing on any pay to view channel worth the money, IMO.

 

For viewing entertainment, second hand DVDs are available from charity shops for 1 or 2 $.

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1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Nothing on any pay to view channel worth the money, IMO.

 

For viewing entertainment, second hand DVDs are available from charity shops for 1 or 2 $.

Yep ... daughter gave me her disney, netflix and some other channel's signins, and looked at their programs ... I'll pass.  

 

Nothing I can't download the torrent of, watch at my leisure, pause, rewind, keep (not lately) and delete.

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1 minute ago, KhunLA said:

daughter gave me her disney, netflix

Disney has gone so woke that they ain't worth watching anymore, IMO.

I watch Netflix on a relatives tv, but not all the time as don't live with them.

They have a pretty good selection of Japanese anime, which is hard to come by in my home country, as people mistakenly think they are for kids.

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2 hours ago, Hummin said:

Higher sea level, more drought, less land area and it will be hunger, and also challenge the world stability. But not much difference in our time I guess 

 

What do you think? 

I remember one interview with Bjørn Lomborg when he tells a story about horse carriages in NYC about hundred years ago. It seems at that time they had so many horse carriages and so much manure on the streets that they thought about the problems for the future. How will this be with double the amount of horse carriages and double the amount of manure? And then more.

 

The "answer" was of course the development of technology. Now they don't have a manure problem anymore. They have other problems.

 

Personally, I am sure the world will change - with or without climate change. And many changes will be so big changes that nobody foresees them. Who saw "the internet" coming and the way it developed? Who expected smart phones with cameras and GPS and free video calls all over the world in everybody's pocket? There will be many changes with many consequences. Climate change might be part of that. But I would be surprised if it would be the biggest part.

 

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1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

In other words, Professor Lomborg ( qualifications in political science ) is in tune with your confirmation bias, so you prefer his cherry-picking of data as it feels more comfortable. I put him in the same class as scientists who worked in the tobacco industry, to make said product more addictive.

I don't have any skin in this game, I'll be dead by the time the worst hits. Having said that, I do prefer facts and evidence to BS published by someone with no education in the hard sciences, and no experience at the coal face. An academic in an ivory tower.

Most scientists are worried about the butterfly effect aka a tipping point, or Black Swan event. It could be triggered by albedo or clathrates, I'll bet Lomborg glosses over those inconveniences.

What training in thermodynamics do you have?

I agree that we all pick who we believe. I saw interviews with Bjørn Lomborg and many other people. He is no climate specialist, and he doesn't claim to be one. He analyses data and he analyses how much money is spent for what with which results. I think a lot of what he talks about makes a lot of sense.

 

Just one example of those climate radicals: Germany shut down all their nuclear power plants and now they use also coal power plants. Does that make any sense when protecting the climate is the big goal? No! And Germany is obviously not alone with such stupid decisions. 

 

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14 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I remember one interview with Bjørn Lomborg when he tells a story about horse carriages in NYC about hundred years ago. It seems at that time they had so many horse carriages and so much manure on the streets that they thought about the problems for the future. How will this be with double the amount of horse carriages and double the amount of manure? And then more.

 

The "answer" was of course the development of technology. Now they don't have a manure problem anymore. They have other problems.

 

Personally, I am sure the world will change - with or without climate change. And many changes will be so big changes that nobody foresees them. Who saw "the internet" coming and the way it developed? Who expected smart phones with cameras and GPS and free video calls all over the world in everybody's pocket? There will be many changes with many consequences. Climate change might be part of that. But I would be surprised if it would be the biggest part.

 

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Im sure things will not be as we think, but climate changes coming as it have since the beginning, so no questions about that.

 

The fittest of survival continues 

 

 

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