1 hour ago, FruitPudding said:

You could just as easily flip that around. Why should white people support Biden?

 

Have you heard some of the things Biden has said about white people?

 

He is creating a bigger divide between the ethnic groups than Trump.

 

With Trump it's, "We are all Americans. Let's be patriotic"

 

With Biden it's, "White people do bad things to minorities" which just causes racial tension and it's not even true. Look at the violence statistics. Notice a pattern? It ain't whites attacking blacks.

Tell that story to many police departments in the USA and see how that flies,

 

About 386,000,000 results (0.44 seconds) 

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/report-black-people-are-still-killed-police-higher-rate-groups-rcna17169

 

https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2020/know-their-names/index.html

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unarmed_African_Americans_killed_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States

 

There are far too many for me to list with individual links but here is a sample for you to chew on. If you want more examples and can be bothered to do a search, just simply type 'Black people killed by the police in the US' into your search engine.

1 hour ago, FruitPudding said:

You haven't said anything of substance here. Just drivvle.

So why don't YOU list Trump's good points and defend him?

1 hour ago, FruitPudding said:

So, if he can't join the draft he shouldn't be able to exercise?

 

Was the he a professional tennis player or something?

 

Muhammad Ali dodged the draft.

 

Let me ask you something: do you agree with the draft?

You really need to do some research before posting ridiculous and easily disprovable claims.

 

Quote "Muhammad Ali dodged the draft".

 

NO he did NOT dodge the draft at all.

 

He refused to join the draft but did NOT, like many run away. 

 

At the trial on June 20, 1967, the jury found Ali guilty after only 21 minutes of deliberation of the criminal offense of violating the Selective Service laws by refusing to be drafted.[25] After a Court of Appeals upheld the conviction, the case was reviewed by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1971.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali

4 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Yes there was, 7 million votes.

Sure? 

I thought it was only about 3 million 

2 hours ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

still waiting on those links..or you just trolling as trump lovers do....truth is singular lies are many

It was you that started about links. 

I don't need a link. 

Just watch note than CNN and you'll see a more balanced view. 

11 minutes ago, billd766 said:

You really need to do some research before posting ridiculous and easily disprovable claims.

 

Quote "Muhammad Ali dodged the draft".

 

NO he did NOT dodge the draft at all.

 

He refused to join the draft but did NOT, like many run away. 

 

At the trial on June 20, 1967, the jury found Ali guilty after only 21 minutes of deliberation of the criminal offense of violating the Selective Service laws by refusing to be drafted.[25] After a Court of Appeals upheld the conviction, the case was reviewed by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1971.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali

I respect Ali as a boxer and man of integrity. 

I would also have refused the draft for another pointless war. 

 

On 7/22/2023 at 3:33 PM, FruitPudding said:

You don't think human traffickers should get the death penalty?

It doesn't matter what the putative crime is, nobody should "receive the death penalty immediately" i.e. without due process, which is what Trump is proposing here

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

...and there's a politician you can name who doesn't do that?

All the ones who are not supported by idiots. 

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Difficult to do anything other than that considering that, unless they're native Americans, every single person in the US is descended from an immigrant.

The two people referred to were not descended from immigrants though, they were actual immigrants. They were both born outside the US, neither was a US citizen at birth. Both immigrated to the States and acquired US citizenship later in life.

2 hours ago, FruitPudding said:

 

 

Muhammad Ali dodged the draft.

 

 

Ali refused to go, he didn't use ' bone spurs ' as an excuse.

 

He didn't dodge the draft, he refused it on both religious and humanitarian grounds, and it cost him dearly for many years regards his boxing career.

 

 

8 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

Ali refused to go, he didn't use ' bone spurs ' as an excuse.

 

He didn't dodge the draft, he refused it on both religious and humanitarian grounds, and it cost him dearly for many years regards his boxing career.

 

 

He changed his religion and used that as an excuse.

 

Pull the other leg mate. Lol

 

In any case,  bone spurs is a better excuse than religion.

 

Irrespective of that, why should you need an excuse? What about Human rights? You don't wanna fight, you don't wanna fight. No shame.

 

 

3 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Trump is a white supremacist. I have to wonder at the gullibility of minority groups or individuals that support him.

Amazing, when the derogatory comments are directed at Trump no evidence is required.

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

It was you that started about links. 

I don't need a link. 

Just watch note than CNN and you'll see a more balanced view. 

Links not needed for trolling.....

8 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

He changed his religion and used that as an excuse.

 

Pull the other leg mate. Lol

 

In any case,  bone spurs is a better excuse than religion.

 

Irrespective of that, why should you need an excuse? What about Human rights? You don't wanna fight, you don't wanna fight. No shame.

 

 

 

 

You do post such a pile of rubbish.

 

My religion started out as C of E but by the time I was 18 I had given up on ALL religions.

 

My spiritual home is now Stonehenge, and NO I don't need anybody's permission to change my religion.

 

Muhammed Ali achieved a great deal in his life. He brought pleasure to millions of people worldwide.

 

What have you achieved in yours so far? Apart from, that is, slagging off dead people who cannot answer back, and showing your ignorance.

 

 

At least Muhammed Ali had the courage to stand up for his religion and go to jail for his beliefs, unlike all the white college boys who burnt their draft cards, then scuttled off to Canada to sit the war out.

 

Were you ever in the military?

 

I was a 15 1/2 year old volunteer, knowing that from the age of 11 I wanted to join the RAF.

 

So I did, and proudly served my Queen and country from January 1960 until May 1984.

3 hours ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

The Irony of violence and Trump as you grasp for straws to defend the man who encourages it

I'm not defending Trump, I simply despise dems. 

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

Amazing, when the derogatory comments are directed at Trump no evidence is required.

Amazing Trump still has defenders after everything he has done before, during and after his presidency.

51 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I'm not defending Trump, I simply despise dems. 

You'd rather a dictatorship? Trump didn't make it, but there's always China, Russia and North Korea awaiting you if you don't want to live in a democracy.

No doubt the left supports "no cash bail" for human traffickers. 

 

Do any of you on the left support the death penalty for anything?

21 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

No doubt the left supports "no cash bail" for human traffickers. 

 

Do any of you on the left support the death penalty for anything?

Inciting an insurrection (treason).

But I'm center left, not left.

 

6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Inciting an insurrection (treason).

But I'm center left, not left.

 

Only if the insurrection comes from the right though, correct? When the left overruns a federal courthouse or whatnot, it's just a protest, and the insurrectionists protestors are to be commended, yes? 

 

 

24 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Only if the insurrection comes from the right though, correct? When the left overruns a federal courthouse or whatnot, it's just a protest, and the insurrectionists protestors are to be commended, yes? 

 

 

That's not treason or insurrection. 

But not, not to be commended.

2 hours ago, FruitPudding said:

In any case,  bone spurs is a better excuse than religion.

Tell that to the Quakers.

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

You'd rather a dictatorship? Trump didn't make it, but there's always China, Russia and North Korea awaiting you if you don't want to live in a democracy.

The theatrics do get old. All the fear, and you go along with it.

2 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

I'm not defending Trump, I simply despise dems. 

It’s supposed to be country over party your hatred of the dems is blinding you to what is so glaringly obvious to the majority of Americans that sir is sad I hope you can open up a bit probably not tho as many are to stubborn oh well…….

22 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

The theatrics do get old. All the fear, and you go along with it.

So you actually think Trump is a normal politician that has respect for the constitution and democratic norms?  Come on man!

7 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

The theatrics do get old. All the fear, and you go along with it.

Trump is the most dangerous threat to democracy in America since the days of McCarthyism. He strums the same chords of bigotry, with racism thrown in.

He would love to be a dictator like Xi, Putin, Kim. He is on record as admiring Hitler.

Maybe you don't understand that, fortunately the majority of Americans do.

7 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

The theatrics do get old. All the fear, and you go along with it.

Dude you do realize that’s ALL the republicans do these days look at bobble head DeSantis full time troll trump all theatrics and troll abbot the same mtg dear lord it’s all theater all of it

15 hours ago, sirineou said:

16 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

...and there's a politician you can name who doesn't do that?

All the ones who are not supported by idiots. 

I was pretty sure that no one would be able to name one and I was right.

12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

That's not treason or insurrection. 

But not, not to be commended.

It is insurrection, that you do not think it is just shows how little you know about it. 

 

Why don't you look it up and apologize? 

17 hours ago, Walker88 said:

 

 

Oh, and he got a doctor to claim he had bone spurs, which did not prevent him from playing tennis, but kept him out of being drafted. To falsely claim something in order to avoid the draft was called a "dodger".

Much like a certain other president (initials JRB) who deferred his draft 5 times for being a student, then got a medical deferment for asthma he suffered as a teenager. While he was a lifeguard. And a football player.

 

Much like others of that generation (Clinton, Bush, Cheney etc). All men who did whatever they could to avoid service. I never had much time for John Kerry, but at least he had the stones to serve his country. And for that he gets credit.