Climate change: July set to be world's warmest month on record

[JonnyF]

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Thank you for your in-depth analysis of the scientific basis of the climate change issue that in no way resembles a politically driven conspiracy theory rant devoid of any actual evidence.

The doomsday cult has been rumbled. 

 

Expect people to keep ignoring you.

[GammaGlobulin]

No need to worry, yet.

It's still far hotter on planet Venus.

 

 

[placeholder]

16 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

The doomsday cult has been rumbled. 

 

Expect people to keep ignoring you.

And more fact-free claims from you. I think you need a refresher course in what is and what isn't evidence: Here's a few examples of what is evidence from the UK:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/wellbeing/articles/worriesaboutclimatechangegreatbritain/septembertooctober2022

 

https://news.sky.com/story/climate-change-majority-believe-government-doing-too-little-to-combat-global-warming-poll-suggests-12735688

 

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2022/11/22/most-people-are-worried-about-climate-change-what-

 

Edited August 10, 2023 by placeholder

[JonnyF]

23 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

No need to worry, yet.

It's still far hotter on planet Venus.

 

 

A typical wet and drizzly summer in the UK.

[placeholder]

Just now, JonnyF said:

A typical wet and drizzly summer in the UK.

Someone else who believes that the UK covers most of planet Earth.

[scottiejohn]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Someone else who believes that the UK covers most of planet Earth.

Someone else who believes that the UK STILL covers most of planet Earth!

[JonnyF]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Someone else who believes that the UK covers most of planet Earth.

Please link to a post where I stated I believe that.

 

If you can't, maybe best to stop posting mis-information - it's against the forum rules you so love to quote. 

 

[JonnyF]

21 minutes ago, placeholder said:

And more fact-free claims from you. I think you need a refresher course in what is and what isn't evidence: Here's a few examples of what is evidence from the UK:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/wellbeing/articles/worriesaboutclimatechangegreatbritain/septembertooctober2022

 

https://news.sky.com/story/climate-change-majority-believe-government-doing-too-little-to-combat-global-warming-poll-suggests-12735688

 

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2022/11/22/most-people-are-worried-about-climate-change-what-

 

Well it's certainly having a catastrophic effect on humanity.????

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsj.com%2Farticles%2Fclimate-activists-disasters-fire-storms-deaths-change-cop26-glasgow-global-warming-11635973538&psig=AOvVaw147WomOkGkRQHWKsazKSic&ust=1691718453404000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBMQjhxqFwoTCPCz5r380IADFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE

 

 

 

[Lucky Bones]

Heard from a mate in mid north South Australia that Mon & Tues mornings, 7 & 8 August 2023 hit 0.00C early morning.

Close to new record lows, but hey, that was August.

July must have been a sauna? Righto.????????

[placeholder]

5 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Please link to a post where I stated I believe that.

 

If you can't, maybe best to stop posting mis-information - it's against the forum rules you so love to quote. 

 

This is an article about anthropogenic climate change. You have just expressed a belief that it's a hoax. Now you're asking anyone to believe that you're just making an irrelevant observation about the current weather in the UK? it is to laugh.

[JonnyF]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

This is an article about anthropogenic climate change. You have just expressed a belief that it's a hoax. Now you're asking anyone to believe that you're just making an irrelevant observation about the current weather in the UK? it is to laugh.

How does any of that imply that I think the UK covers most of planet earth?

 

Stop floundering. Stop posting mis-information. 

[JonnyF]

4 minutes ago, Lucky Bones said:

Heard from a mate in mid north South Australia that Mon & Tues mornings, 7 & 8 August 2023 hit 0.00C early morning.

Close to new record lows, but hey, that was August.

July must have been a sauna? Righto.????????

Shhhh. Don't pay attention to what you see with your own eyes. The experts will provide the science for you to follow. Just like they did with Covid. ????

 

Now shut up and pay those green taxes.

[placeholder]

24 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Well it's certainly having a catastrophic effect on humanity.????

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsj.com%2Farticles%2Fclimate-activists-disasters-fire-storms-deaths-change-cop26-glasgow-global-warming-11635973538&psig=AOvVaw147WomOkGkRQHWKsazKSic&ust=1691718453404000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBMQjhxqFwoTCPCz5r380IADFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE

 

 

 

The reason for that is obvious. Or should be. It used to be that people didn't know that these disasters were coming. As predictive abilities improved. deaths have drastically declined. This has nothing to do with the harmful environmental effects of climate change.

 

Weather-related disasters increase over past 50 years, causing more damage but fewer deaths

A disaster related to a weather, climate or water hazard occurred every day on average over the past 50 years – killing 115 people and causing US$ 202 million in losses daily, according to a comprehensive new report from the World Meteorological Organization (WMO).

The number of disasters has increased by a factor of five over the 50-year period, driven by climate change, more extreme weather and improved reporting. But, thanks to improved early warnings and disaster management, the number of deaths decreased almost three-fold.

https://public.wmo.int/en/media/press-release/weather-related-disasters-increase-over-past-50-years-causing-more-damage-fewer

[placeholder]

4 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

How does any of that imply that I think the UK covers most of planet earth?

 

Stop floundering. Stop posting mis-information. 

Apparently, you are also extremely literal-minded.

[placeholder]

17 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Someone else who believes that the UK STILL covers most of planet Earth!

Funny. Wish I'd thought of that.

[placeholder]

22 minutes ago, Lucky Bones said:

Heard from a mate in mid north South Australia that Mon & Tues mornings, 7 & 8 August 2023 hit 0.00C early morning.

Close to new record lows, but hey, that was August.

July must have been a sauna? Righto.????????

Someone else who confuses weather with climate.

By the numbers: Australia’s climate has warmed by an average of 1.47 degrees Celsius (2.6 degrees Fahrenheit) since national records began in 1910, per the report.

• Sea surface temperatures have increased by an average of almost 1.89°F since 1900, which has led to an increase in the frequency of extreme heat events over land and sea, according to the report.

https://www.axios.com/2022/11/24/australia-climate-report-extreme-weather

 

[JonnyF]

15 minutes ago, placeholder said:

The reason for that is obvious. Or should be. It used to be that people didn't know that these disasters were coming. As predictive abilities improved. deaths have drastically declined. This has nothing to do with the harmful environmental effects of climate change.

 

Weather-related disasters increase over past 50 years, causing more damage but fewer deaths

A disaster related to a weather, climate or water hazard occurred every day on average over the past 50 years – killing 115 people and causing US$ 202 million in losses daily, according to a comprehensive new report from the World Meteorological Organization (WMO).

The number of disasters has increased by a factor of five over the 50-year period, driven by climate change, more extreme weather and improved reporting. But, thanks to improved early warnings and disaster management, the number of deaths decreased almost three-fold.

https://public.wmo.int/en/media/press-release/weather-related-disasters-increase-over-past-50-years-causing-more-damage-fewer

So in conclusion.

 

1. The planet might be getting warmer.

2. The planet's climate has always changed. You may have heard of the ice age. I believe that occured before humans were having any effect.

3. If it is getting warmer, it is minimal and we cannot prove that is due to humans.

4. Even though it might be getting warmer, there are far fewer climate related deaths than ever since we have the technology to cope with the change.

5. Techonology is changing far quicker than the climate.

 

So what's the panic? Oh that's right, it's a great excuse to push through other agendas such as higher taxes, more state control, fewer rights for citizens. That almost sounds like a socialist agenda. Who'd a thunk it?

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-22069768

 

 

No wonder there's such a high correlation between Left wing ideology and climate alarmism. And people are starting to see it. The game's up.

[JonnyF]

11 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Apparently, you are also extremely literal-minded.

Why not just admit what you posted was nonsense? It would be easier than this constant squirming.????

[bignok]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

The doomsday cult has been rumbled. 

 

Expect people to keep ignoring you.

I put the lefties on ignore. Wow so much better now.

[JonnyF]

34 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Someone else who believes that the UK STILL covers most of planet Earth!

Better a has been than a never was. ????

[placeholder]

Just now, JonnyF said:

So in conclusion.

 

1. The planet might be getting warmer.

2. The planet's climate has always changed. You may have heard of the ice age. I believe that occured before humans were having any effect.

3. If it is getting warmer, it is minimal and we cannot prove that is due to humans.

4. Even though it might be getting warmer, there are far fewer climate related deaths than ever since we have the technology to cope with the change.

5. Techonology is changing far quicker than the climate.

 

So what's the panic? Oh that's right, it's a great excuse to push through other agendas such as higher taxes, more state control, fewer rights for citizens. That almost sounds like a socialist agenda. Who'd a thunk it?

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-22069768

 

 

No wonder there's such a high correlation between Left wing ideology and climate alarmism. And people are starting to see it. The game's up.

To draw conclusions, you first have to provide evidence. Climatologists overwhelmingly disagree with your propositions 1 &3,  and  2 &4 are irrelevant. Which leaves us with #5 which is relevant insofar as new technologies are coming online that reduce greenhouse gases.

Since I haven't addressed claim #2 recently in this thread. let me reiterate that it isn't disputed that climate always changes. The issue is the rate of change. If a bank offers 2 risk free accounts one that offers a 1% interest rate and the other that offers 10%, would you say that there is no significant difference between the 2? Rate matters. A lot.

[bignok]

8 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

So in conclusion.

 

1. The planet might be getting warmer.

2. The planet's climate has always changed. You may have heard of the ice age. I believe that occured before humans were having any effect.

3. If it is getting warmer, it is minimal and we cannot prove that is due to humans.

4. Even though it might be getting warmer, there are far fewer climate related deaths than ever since we have the technology to cope with the change.

5. Techonology is changing far quicker than the climate.

 

So what's the panic? Oh that's right, it's a great excuse to push through other agendas such as higher taxes, more state control, fewer rights for citizens. That almost sounds like a socialist agenda. Who'd a thunk it?

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-22069768

 

 

No wonder there's such a high correlation between Left wing ideology and climate alarmism. And people are starting to see it. The game's up.

8bn people. Nothing much can be done about it. Just a socialist movement like you say. 

[JonnyF]

3 minutes ago, bignok said:

I put the lefties on ignore. Wow so much better now.

I just enjoy reminding them that everyone has seen through their charade.

[placeholder]

8 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Why not just admit what you posted was nonsense? It would be easier than this constant squirming.????

Why continue being disingenuous? You could only be fooling the simple-minded.

[Lucky Bones]

23 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Shhhh. Don't pay attention to what you see with your own eyes. The experts will provide the science for you to follow. Just like they did with Covid. ????

 

Now shut up and pay those green taxes.

Hey JonnyF,

When your boat sails, don't forget to pick me up.????????

[placeholder]

1 minute ago, bignok said:

8bn people. Nothing much can be done about it. Just a socialist movement like you say. 

Thanks for the lack of evidence.

[placeholder]

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

I just enjoy reminding them that everyone has seen through their charade.

Really? Can you provide any objective evidence to support your claim that everyone has seen through the charade? 

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[bignok]

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

I just enjoy reminding them that everyone has seen through their charade.

Not everyone. All the socialists just copy each other. No independent thought. Tigers? Yeah cc they say. No mention of poaching sums up their thinking. No actual research into fires. Just sheep.

[JonnyF]

Just now, placeholder said:

To draw conclusions, you first have to provide evidence. Climatologists overwhelmingly disagree with your propositions 1 &3,  and  2 &4 are irrelevant. Which leaves us with #5 which is relevant insofar as new technologies are coming online that reduce greenhouse gases.

Since I haven't addressed claim #2 recently in this thread. let me reiterate that it isn't disputed that climate always changes. The issue is the rate of change. If a bank offers 2 risk free accounts one that offers a 1% interest rate and the other that offers 10%, would you say that there is no significant difference between the 2? Rate matters. A lot.

I have provided evidence to the most important point. That any change is being dwarfed by our ability to handle it. Hence climate related deaths falling so dramatically.

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/climate-activists-disasters-fire-storms-deaths-change-cop26-glasgow-global-warming-11635973538

 

 

Of course, facts like these do nothing to push through your socialist agenda. 

[JonnyF]

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Why continue being disingenuous? You could only be fooling the simple-minded.

Because you refuse to retract your false statement. A simple apology will suffice and I'll pretend it never happened.