JimTripper Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Jumbo1968 said: I have said to Buzzin Trevor a few times you are doing a great job for the Thai Tourist Authority always talking Pattaya up. Nick Dean is constantly promoting Soi 7 as he is in the process of opening up his 4th bar on the Soi, how he manages to pay the rent on all them during low season is beyond me not unless he has some big backers behind him. Probably people coming into inheritances as they get older. I had a few relatives get a wad of cash and just end up burning it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted September 10, 2023 Author Share Posted September 10, 2023 35 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said: Yep the first baht bus is full of school children, the second was taken years ago I would think, I haven’t seen a baht bus that packed for years. I think you are a bar owner trying to talk Pattaya up like Buzzin Trevor does and Nick Dean on NDTVI, looking at your user name you might be Dan Dan the camera man Nick Deans camera man. Nope. I live on Thappraya Road. During High Season, the baht buses are jammed with Farangs. As a result, at night, lots of people walk from Jomtien to Pattaya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted September 10, 2023 Author Share Posted September 10, 2023 24 minutes ago, JimTripper said: I saw some packed coming from Jomtein but It’s not a lot relatively speaking. They would be picking up groups from the night market or along the whole beach stretch. Any city that was halfway crowded the trucks would be packed each time. I think people are inflating the popularity of the place, or like you say, it’s goofballs hyping YouTube channels to make it sound exciting. You can see in the vlogs them walking down the same few streets in central each time. I'll remember your post this High Season when the baht buses are full, and Bolt reports 30 minute wait times. As opposed to today's 2 minute wait time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted September 10, 2023 Author Share Posted September 10, 2023 27 minutes ago, JimTripper said: I saw some packed coming from Jomtein but It’s not a lot relatively speaking. They would be picking up I think people are inflating the popularity of the place, or like you say, it’s goofballs hyping YouTube channels to make it sound exciting. You can see in the vlogs them walking down the same few streets in central each time. I hope you understand that telling people that Pattaya is too crowded is not a good marketing technique. Better to market the hordes of bargirls than lack of space in the bars and no transportation options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimTripper Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Danderman123 said: I hope you understand that telling people that Pattaya is too crowded is not a good marketing technique. Better to market the hordes of bargirls than lack of space in the bars and no transportation options. Not true at all. Most people will go where others go or want what others want. It’s tried and tested in marketing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaideedave Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 13 hours ago, n00dle said: ffs pattaya has been dying for decades. it is perishing as fast as the men who used to frequrent the gogo bar scene as a way of life. That just doesnt appeal to people these days. There are so many other ways to go about it. I agree 100% on your observation.Back in the day before Thai Friendly etc. the easiest option was hunt the beer bars as we did. Now one doesn't even have to leave the comfort of his home.You can just order in same as a pizza. Less expensive and a larger selection IMHO. 31 minutes ago, JimTripper said: I saw some packed coming from Jomtein but It’s not a lot relatively speaking. They would be picking up groups from the night market or along the whole beach stretch. Any city that was halfway crowded the trucks would be packed each time. I think people are inflating the popularity of the place, or like you say, it’s goofballs hyping YouTube channels to make it sound exciting. You can see in the vlogs them walking down the same few streets in central each time. 555 Yes it seems a lot of blokes arrive here and get a Go Pro camera and trip over each other marching up and down the same old tired sois. The"buy me a beer" brigade is alive and well in Pattaya.It must be embarrassing at times.They must be skint for the most part because what else would motivate them to "wash rinse repeat" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithsimmonds Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 58 minutes ago, JimTripper said: Is there really a high season at all? It feels more like hype to me? Without the bar staff and no name Thais milling around I don’t ever see many visitors. There,s a "High Season" alright.....just only applies to a round of Golf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimTripper Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, jaideedave said: The"buy me a beer" brigade is alive and well in Pattaya.It must be embarrassing at times.They must be skint for the most part because what else would motivate them to "wash rinse repeat" ? Some of it is a need to advise or mentor others. It’s very common even for non vloggers. Not sure if it’s an ego thing or whatever. Maybe if your here longer your a big man, or whatever. You couple that need with being short on money and you just get a bunch of newbie advice vlogs over and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted September 10, 2023 Author Share Posted September 10, 2023 14 hours ago, n00dle said: ffs pattaya has been dying for decades. it is perishing as fast as the men who used to frequrent the gogo bar scene as a way of life. That just doesnt appeal to people these days. There are so many other ways to go about it. You should tell that to the hordes of Koreans jamming some gogos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo1968 Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 The buy me a beer/coffee or even donating money is very popular, some are making a good living from it. I used to watch some of the YouTube stuff whilst I was stuck in the U.K.with my Thai partner and son during Covid as there was some good advice on how to go through the procedure of getting a Thailand Pass which I eventually did spending 2 weeks in quarantine in hotel in Naklua. Bar owners have introduced bar girls on their weekly blogs encouraging people thousands of miles away to buy them drinks obviously a good earner for the bar owner. I do find they also give a lot of misinformation out about visa rules and other stuff as well though. I don’t watch any of the bar owner blogs now, no interest of watching bar girls getting p***** or some one walking endlessly around the same Soi’s week in week out or telling me if I go in a certain establishment I will come out with a smile on my face. If the government latch on to the fact bloggers are classed as working they might say they require a Work Permit which will curtail them from making blogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo1968 Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: You should tell that to the hordes of Koreans jamming some gogos. They be jamming the Go Gos but not the normal type bars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champers Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 I do wonder how much the legalisation of dope has affected the bar trade. Smoke a joint and you are instantly on a high. No need to sit in a bar and down bottles of beer for 3 or 4 hours. It is interesting that all the bar owners who produce vlogs say they are not into the dope scene and it is not their thing. Bars still have their place but maybe not so much now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted September 10, 2023 Author Share Posted September 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Jumbo1968 said: They be jamming the Go Gos but not the normal type bars. Not yet, but there is at least one Korean bar in Pattaya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champers Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Not yet, but there is at least one Korean bar in Pattaya. And a Korean nightclub next to the Runway site on 2nd Road. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenStark Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 58 minutes ago, champers said: I do wonder how much the legalisation of dope has affected the bar trade. Smoke a joint and you are instantly on a high. No need to sit in a bar and down bottles of beer for 3 or 4 hours. It is interesting that all the bar owners who produce vlogs say they are not into the dope scene and it is not their thing. Bars still have their place but maybe not so much now. People don't go to bars to get p*ssed, it is just something that happens They go to a bar to get laid or for social contact. If that was their point of going to a bar, they could do it always much cheaper at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, champers said: I do wonder how much the legalisation of dope has affected the bar trade. Smoke a joint and you are instantly on a high. No need to sit in a bar and down bottles of beer for 3 or 4 hours. It is interesting that all the bar owners who produce vlogs say they are not into the dope scene and it is not their thing. Bars still have their place but maybe not so much now. Many of the bar girls are on Thaifriendly, usually the price they want includes the bar fine Edited September 10, 2023 by scubascuba3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayClay Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 16 hours ago, n00dle said: ffs pattaya has been dying for decades Decades? As in at least 20 years? I don't think it's possible to be dying for 20 years... I think that's called "surviving".... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00dle Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, JayClay said: Decades? As in at least 20 years? I don't think it's possible to be dying for 20 years... I think that's called "surviving".... Whatever reamins of pattayas appeal is a mere shadow of it's former self. Only ageing sex pests want what the old whore has left to offer. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Olmate Posted September 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, n00dle said: Whatever reamins of pattayas appeal is a mere shadow of it's former self. Only ageing sex pests want what the old whore has left to offer. Spoken like a true aging sex pest! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 15 minutes ago, n00dle said: Whatever reamins of pattayas appeal is a mere shadow of it's former self. Only ageing sex pests want what the old whore has left to offer. you just sound bitter, still a great place to live and holiday 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00dle Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: you just sound bitter, still a great place to live and holiday Ill leave you to it then. Sounds right up your alley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00dle Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 19 minutes ago, Olmate said: Spoken like a true aging sex pest! You come up with that gem all by yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00dle Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 2 hours ago, champers said: I do wonder how much the legalisation of dope has affected the bar trade. Smoke a joint and you are instantly on a high. No need to sit in a bar and down bottles of beer for 3 or 4 hours. It is interesting that all the bar owners who produce vlogs say they are not into the dope scene and it is not their thing. Bars still have their place but maybe not so much now. Everyone who was into weed was smoking before it was legal. It is just easier to get now. It doesn't affect the bars one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champers Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Chinese owned Panda group; who used to have a bar, a gogo and a nightclub on Walking St; are going to occupy a new development on 2nd Rd near Soi 5 and the aforementioned Korean nightclub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimTripper Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 19 minutes ago, champers said: Chinese owned Panda group; who used to have a bar, a gogo and a nightclub on Walking St; are going to occupy a new development on 2nd Rd near Soi 5 and the aforementioned Korean nightclub. Wow, who cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champers Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, JimTripper said: Wow, who cares. Maybe traditional Western owners of such places need to give thought to catering to the Chinese and Korean markets. Soi 7 has a new Chinese bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimTripper Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 53 minutes ago, champers said: Maybe traditional Western owners of such places need to give thought to catering to the Chinese and Korean markets. Soi 7 has a new Chinese bar. It’s more like they are just fighting for scraps. I don’t think business owners put that much planning into things here. It’s a bottom of the barrel scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenStark Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 1 hour ago, champers said: Maybe traditional Western owners of such places need to give thought to catering to the Chinese and Korean markets. Soi 7 has a new Chinese bar. The owner of 3 big entertainment places in WS told me a few months ago that Chinese are investing big time in WS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champers Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, JimTripper said: It’s more like they are just fighting for scraps. I don’t think business owners put that much planning into things here. It’s a bottom of the barrel scene. Fail to plan, plan to fail. If a place like Bling got it so wrong it is reasonsble to ask why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jumbo1968 Posted September 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, JimTripper said: It’s more like they are just fighting for scraps. I don’t think business owners put that much planning into things here. It’s a bottom of the barrel scene. I think their attitude is open the doors and they will come, Buzzin Trevor has 83000 plus subscribers no idea how that figure was reached and Nick Dean NDTVI has around 35000 even that’s very generous as well. I can’t believe that many people watch blogs about Thailand. It would be interesting to know how many of the subscribers actually ever come to Pattaya. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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