Detoxing from Marijuana

[Neeranam]

I had always thought there was no addiction but it seems there is. This might help some people here. 

https://marijuana-anonymous.org/pamphlets/detoxing-from-marijuana/

[Yeah rightio]

Marijuana Anonymous.Org...... What a cop out!! Still anything to try and be relevant I suppose, especially from Hollywood.

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

I had always thought there was no addiction but it seems there is. This might help some people here. 

https://marijuana-anonymous.org/pamphlets/detoxing-from-marijuana/

There is no physical addiction, but if someone can make money off of it, they'll surely tell there is.

 

What would be the withdrawal symptoms ...

... social boredom 

... less coughing

... loss of weight

... favorite pastry vendor going bankrupt

 

[Real Name Hidden]

I quit cold turkey several years ago and after a month I started to experience some anxiety and insomnia.  However, the last time I quit cold turkey without any symptoms at all.  I think the difference was that I had lost a lot of weight and I was exercising regularly.

[Wuvu2]

1 hour ago, Real Name Hidden said:

I quit cold turkey several years ago and after a month I started to experience some anxiety and insomnia.  However, the last time I quit cold turkey without any symptoms at all.  I think the difference was that I had lost a lot of weight and I was exercising regularly.

Yes exercise can cause anxiety, insomnia and a host of other alarming harms. Learn about all the risks from our friends at  CouchPotato.org  ???? 

[Felton Jarvis]

Marijuana is almost as addictive as chocolate…….BEWARE!!!!  ????

[MrMuddle]

There is no evidence that Marijuana is addictive. Why do people insist of posting these ridiculous topics?

[Pumpuynarak]

3 hours ago, MrMuddle said:

There is no evidence that Marijuana is addictive. Why do people insist of posting these ridiculous topics?

Bingo, i've been consuming since i was 15 yo and i'm now 73yo. In that time i've stopped smoking it numerous times for years at a time. Its not addictive, end of story.

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, Pumpuynarak said:

Bingo, i've been consuming since i was 15 yo and i'm now 73yo. In that time i've stopped smoking it numerous times for years at a time. Its not addictive, end of story.

Mirrors my experience.  Never a withdrawal symptom.  Pure silliness, and nothing but a money grab, or excuse for losers to blame something for their misery.

[Neeranam]

2 hours ago, Pumpuynarak said:

Bingo, i've been consuming since i was 15 yo and i'm now 73yo. In that time i've stopped smoking it numerous times for years at a time. Its not addictive, end of story.

Have you ever had to increase the amount for the same high?

 

[Neeranam]

42 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Mirrors my experience.  Never a withdrawal symptom.  Pure silliness, and nothing but a money grab, or excuse for losers to blame something for their misery.

Have you ever had to increase the amount for the same high?

[KhunLA]

6 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Have you ever had to increase the amount for the same high?

No

[ThaiFelix]

21 hours ago, MrMuddle said:

There is no evidence that Marijuana is addictive. Why do people insist of posting these ridiculous topics?

They have really boring lives and too much free time on their hands.

[Krabi King]

17 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Have you ever had to increase the amount for the same high?

Tolerance can surely increase. But that is no indication for addiction.

[Pumpuynarak]

18 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Have you ever had to increase the amount for the same high?

 

Nope never.

[RocketDog]

Habituation is categorically different from addiction.

Stop drinking coffee and you experience the true addiction withdrawal symptoms.

[mikebike]

19 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Have you ever had to increase the amount for the same high?

Ahhh... the expected response from someone without a clue. 

 

To be clear:

The potency of ganga has steadily increased in the 50ish years I have been indulging. So the question really has no relevance in the long term. In the short term, I have both increased AND decreased my daily intake based on stress levels and other factors. For long-term users it is more about medicating than chasing a buzz. 

[Neeranam]

56 minutes ago, mikebike said:

Ahhh... the expected response from someone without a clue. 

 

To be clear:

The potency of ganga has steadily increased in the 50ish years I have been indulging. So the question really has no relevance in the long term. In the short term, I have both increased AND decreased my daily intake based on stress levels and other factors. For long-term users it is more about medicating than chasing a buzz. 

An expected response by someone in denial. 

 

So you know more than the American Psychiatric Association?

 

Did you know 'Cannabis Use Disorder' is the the DSM5?

https://www.verywellmind.com/cannabis-use-disorder-22295

Edited August 14, 2023 by Neeranam

[Neeranam]

54 minutes ago, mikebike said:

I have both increased AND decreased my daily intake based on stress levels and other factors.

Maybe a crutch?

 

 

 

[SiSePuede419]

How can you "detox" from something that's not toxic?

 

That's like asking how do I detox from fresh air, sunshine, good sex, healthy food and daily exercise. ????

[SiSePuede419]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Maybe a crutch?

 

No. 

 

Whoever made that "addiction" video is obviously suffering from Bald Vlogger Who's An Expert on Nothing Syndrome.

 

Personally, I can't trust a word they say unless they wear a baseball cap backwards and interview people who have been in Thailand for a week on the street in Patong at 1am. That's how you know he's credible! ????

Edited August 14, 2023 by SiSePuede419

[Irish star]

On 8/13/2023 at 8:19 AM, MrMuddle said:

There is no evidence that Marijuana is addictive. Why do people insist of posting these ridiculous topics?

Mostly the alcoholics who hate pot smokers 

[stoner]

3 hours ago, Neeranam said:

An expected response by someone in denial. 

 

So you know more than the American Psychiatric Association?

 

Did you know 'Cannabis Use Disorder' is the the DSM5?

https://www.verywellmind.com/cannabis-use-disorder-22295

pretty sure they also made up something called shaky leg syndrome. 

[Neeranam]

27 minutes ago, Irish star said:

Mostly the alcoholics who hate pot smokers 

Is paranoia a side effect of smoking cannabis?

No hate here, just some links that some smokers might find useful. 

 

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2014-07-16-how-cannabis-causes-paranoia

[rice555]

9 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Is paranoia a side effect of smoking cannabis?

No hate here, just some links that some smokers might find useful. 

 

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2014-07-16-how-cannabis-causes-paranoia

Why not post on the medical/self help forum where people would look for

such info?????

[1sickpuppy]

On 8/12/2023 at 8:52 AM, Neeranam said:

I had always thought there was no addiction but it seems there is. This might help some people here. 

https://marijuana-anonymous.org/pamphlets/detoxing-from-marijuana/

is Physiological, same tobacco, you wanna stop , is easy i did it anyone can, too many weak people around, just grow some gonads

[1sickpuppy]

10 hours ago, stoner said:

pretty sure they also made up something called shaky leg syndrome. 

Bunch of Dip -hi-s

[Hummin]

14 hours ago, SiSePuede419 said:

How can you "detox" from something that's not toxic?

 

That's like asking how do I detox from fresh air, sunshine, good sex, healthy food and daily exercise. ????

Well, maybe science is wrong here to, or is it just another fabricated bull pie? More than 400 chemicals that plays in, and gives you a high is not toxic or making you addicted? Why most of the long term users I know never stop, even it impacts their daily lives like other substances that people use more than recrationally? 

 

Cannabis Dependence and Tolerance

Cannabinoids appear to affect the same reward systems as alcohol, cocaine and opioids (34).Evidence for cannabis dependence is now available from epidemiological studies (6, 8) of long-term users (58, 59), clinical populations (75, 77) and controlled experiments on withdrawal and tolerance (35, 36, 37, 38). Tolerance to cannabis can occur in relation to mood, psychomotor performance, sleep, arterial pressure, body temperature, and antiemetic properties. The critical elements of cannabis dependence include preoccupation with its use, compulsion to use and relapse or recurrent use of the substance (39). Over 50% of cannabis users appear to have ‘impaired control’ over their use (40).Symptoms such as irritability, anxiety, craving and disrupted sleep have been reported in 61-96% of cannabis users during abstinence (36, 41, 42, 43).

Psychiatric Conditions Associated with Cannabis Abuse

In addition to producing dependence, cannabis use is associated with a wide range of psychiatric disorders (44).While there is a clear relationship between the use of cannabis and psychosis, different hypotheses for the same have been propounded. One such, which describes psychosis occurring exclusively with cannabis use has limited evidence. There is strong evidence that cannabis use may precipitate schizophrenia or exacerbate its symptoms. There is also reasonable evidence that cannabis use exacerbates the symptoms of psychosis (37).

Heavy cannabis(30-50mg oral and 8-30 mg smoked) use can specifically cause a mania-like psychosis and more generally act as a precipitant for manic relapse in bipolar patients (37, 44, 45). It is possible that cannabis exposure is a contributing factor that interacts with other known and unknown (genetic and environmental) factors culminating in psychiatric illness (46). It is noticed that in many developed countries, persons with severe mental disorders are more likely to use, abuse, and become dependent on psychoactive substances especially cannabis as compared to the general population (47, 48).The same phenomenon has not been established so far in India.

 

Read all 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3570572/

[radiochaser]

On 8/12/2023 at 8:32 PM, Felton Jarvis said:

Marijuana is almost as addictive as chocolate…….BEWARE!!!!  ????

Chocolate is not addictive.  Stop spreading fake information.  
I have stopped eating chocolate frequently, usually between chocolate bars, chocolate drinks, chocolate cakes, chocolate muffins, etc. 

You will have to excuse me right now while I go downstairs and make sure that the wife isn't drinking my chocolate milk (I stopped drinking that after the last glass).  
 

[SiSePuede419]

4 hours ago, Hummin said:

Psychiatric Conditions Associated with Cannabis Abuse

That's not "science".

 

Psychiatrists don't DIRECTLY OBSERVE OR MEASURE THE VERY ORGAN THEY CLAIM TO BE TREATING:

 

THE HUMAN BRAIN

 

They base their conclusions on heresay, which is not factual, only subjective opinions.

 

I don't believe you are qualified to discuss "science" because you have no QUALIFICATIONS, EDUCATION OR TRAINING IN SCIENCE and are just some random weirdo who hates weed because you're an uptight Puritan. ????