Strongest sleeping pills available without prescription?

[VinnieK]

I don't think you can get even weak ones w/o a prescription 

[bkk6060]

 

Addictive drugs and booze suggested but have you tried masturbating?  It is good for you releases hormones and can help you sleep plenty of information out there supporting this.

 

As Marin explains, the main reason why masturbating might make you tired or why it may help you sleep is a “straight up neurochemical thing.” One study published in Frontiers in Public Health, citing existing literature, explains that the release of oxytocin and prolactin following sexual activity are some of the factors behind improved sleep. And while you might be concerned that you won’t get those sleep-inducing effects without the physical exertion involved in partnered sexual activity, there’s hope. The same study found that masturbation alone was enough to improve reported sleep quality.

Edited August 21, 2023 by bkk6060

[Lorry]

22 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

while you might be concerned that you won’t get those sleep-inducing effects without the physical exertion involved in partnered sexual activity, there’s hope. 

With the physical exertion involved in partnered sexual activity, you will get even more tired. As mentioning 2 posts earlier. 

[richard_smith237]

2 hours ago, SoilSpoil said:

Clonazepam is a newer generation benzo, highly addictive and and extremely painful to withdraw from.

Messing up your GABA receptors is the last thing on earth you wish to do.  Amazing that Thai doctors prescribe them like they were paracetamols. 

 

I'd go for Atarax or melatonin, in combination with a long walk.

Indeed....  which is why I use it very sparingly... (i.e. suffering with a Sporting injury and needing a decent nights sleep) and never to rely on it two nights in a row etc...  

... I understand why these are 'prescription drugs' because of the issues they could cause if one is incapable of being disciplined with themselves.

 

As far as melatonin is concerned - its has a similar effect to Hot Chocolate (on me) which isn't much as far as aiding sleep is concerned. 

 

The issue of course with the prescription medication is that it aids sleep so well, one can sleep for 12 hours which doesn't really help much the following evening. Hence care needs to be taken by not becoming reliant on it. 

 

I also use such medication on long lights if I want to sleep which helps with travel, but again, care has to be taken not to be come habitually dependent. 

 

Once usual patterns are in place, I have little issue with sleeping so have no further requirement for such medication, but find a use for them while also quite aware of the possible risk. 

[d1776]

Not medical advice, just passing on my experiences, others may have different experiences -

 

Alcohol if it makes you sleepy, but obviously there are side effects and one needs to moderate oneself.

 

Benzos, short course, but you'll need to visit clinic (or hospital). They are addictive, so again *short course*, be disciplined about it.

 

Lorazepam are shorter lasting, about 6 hours.

 

Clonazepam are longer lasting, up to 12 hours.

 

If you're not used to them, 1 x 2mg tablet should knock you out. Don't take them for extended period, they are addictive and withdraw is unpleasant.

 

Tell the doctor you have insomnia, this is the main/official reason they will prescribe them.

 

The very cheap drowsy antihistamines (pharmacy), I got side-effects from, but they do work, might be OK for a few days. "Histatab" - "Chlorpheniramine Maleate"

 

Atrax antihistamine (pharmacy) are pretty good, generic is "Dorimax", "Hydroxyzine Hydrochloride" (Atrax I think are Di-hydrochloride, but I was told it's basically the same drug)

 

On Lazada - Kirkland (Costco brand) "Sleepaid", "Doxylamine Succinate" - don't know if pharmacy have similar. They are pretty strong, I don't know the category of this drug.

 

CBD (Lazada), strongest I could get was 3.2mg / drop, but I stopped taking it eventually as seemed to be addictive (for me) and turned me into a slug, basically, a stoner without the fun part.

 

One last cheap option - "Biocalm", "Tolperisone", it's a "muscle relaxant", I bought from Big-C, but pharmacy may have it.

 

Codiphen gave me the shakes, not particularly effective.

 

Overall, my suggestion would be short course Benzos, or Atrax/generic. The good long walk suggested by someone else could also do the trick, and wouldn't hurt if you can manage it.

 

Hope helps, and you can get some sleep.

 

 

[dddave]

I use  paracetamol "PM" tablets from time to time for a sleep aid and they seem to work well. No drowsy after effect.

I did just read a report a few weeks ago that the mild sedative added to many "PM" formulated OTC medications is suspected of possibly contributing to cognitive decline in older people.  Suspected but not yet proven. 

[scorecard]

5 hours ago, BillStrangeOgre said:

Yeah, if you have the name, cheers

I take Melatonin if needed, works for me, non addictive. 

[Sheryl]

OP, trouble sleeping related to time zone change is directly related to melatonin levels.

 

Suggest you take a reliable brand of melatonin (I prefer Puritan Pride, usually available on Lazada or Shoppee).  Try 3-5: mg taken about 2 hours before you want to go to sleep, repeat one time after that if needed (but not too close to when you need to get up). 

 

The other things that are very important are:

 

1. Get as much sun exposure during the day as possible. Doesn't have to be direct on your skin, you can sit/walk in the shade, but be outside so your body gets the message that it is day time.

 

2. Resist the urge to nap during the day.

 

3. No caffeine except when you first get up.

 

4. Avoid using computer for a few hours before sleep. 

 

If all this is not enough the drug Sominzr sold OTC at pharmdmacies often works but may cause drowsiness next day. Try without it first as outlined above.

 

 

[jak2002003]

7 hours ago, BillStrangeOgre said:

It's been over a month for me trying to deal with a messed up sleep pattern. I'm awake all night then finally get off to sleep around 6am and in bed until midday!

Alcohol doesn't work for me. As soon as I stop I got back to the previous sleep pattern. I took some strong sleeping tablets here last time I was here which I bought over the counter but can't remember the name or the pharmacy! ????

Set your alarm.  Force yourself to get up at 7am and not sleep during the day. 

 

After 3 or 4 days your body clock will be back to normal. 

 

Sleeping pills are not the answer or healthy either. No need for them.

 

 

[IndomitableSpirit]

Sominar, it's an antihistamine. It can knock you down for a day or two lol. I usually just take half, enough to give me 7-9 hours sleep. 

[tandor]

15 hours ago, KannikaP said:

Two large Singhas and I am off like a baby before 10pm, and it is the local PA system which wakes me at 6am.

a drone with pliers should fix that

[RayOday]

I fly from California. I would suggest strong Indica cannabis. It works. I use it for 2 missing disks to sleep well. More importantly your circadian clock has been disrupted. Be sure to wake early and look at the morning sky for 10-15 minutes. You cannot accomplish a reset looking through a window, the lumens are insufficient. Download a free light meter and see for yourself. You can then go back to sleep if you are still tired. If it suits your lifestyle try  bedtime prior to midnight (2100-2230 is ideal), wake to view the morning sky, then stay awake or go back to sleep. Better to stay awake. Repeat and feel better. There is plenty of Neuro science to back this up. DM me if you want peer reviewed source material. 

[Deli]

Amy Benzo should do and they sell it under the counter. Valium 300 b for 10 pills in the pharmacy

[itsallmine68]

Go ask at the Pharmacy

[jcmj]

Mirtazapine. They have a generic brand, but it’s not cheap. It will give you a good nights sleep though. Just be careful as to what your body can handle. 

[arick]

Antihistamine 25mg  or fly to Vietnam you can get anything.  If you can't handle jetlag from the UK 7 hours difference I would hate to see you do west coast america to here. 

[arick]

Sprintec

 

[Paradise Pete]

16 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Not the strongest; however, I have found Codiphen ( Diphenhydramine, drowsy antihistamine ) works very well for me.

IME pharmacies in Thailand stock it. Non-addictive.

AFAIK barbiturates are the strongest sleep medications, they would only be available on prescription from a hospital pharmacy. Street pharmacies would not stock them.

 

 

Agree. 50mg of diphenhydramine helps me quite a bit with jet lag. It's gentle, and takes time to take effect. It's not to be taken regularly, though.

 

[shdmn]

Sleeping pills that use diphenhydramine (an antihistamine) are the strongest over the counter as far as I know.

Edited August 21, 2023 by shdmn

[Tazmo]

https://aseannow.com/profile/11421-neeranam/

I had a few years of poor sleep and tried all that has been mentioned in this forum.

So I decided to see a Specialist who prescribed tramazone 50 mgs at bedtime and if required 1 mg Lorazepam.

 I tried the tramazone on its own and it didn’t help.  So I started adding the lorazepam and it has worked.
Tramazone apparently can take up to a week or more to work!

 I have a follow up appointment in 4 weeks time and by then I will decide whether to continue or not.

It was a 900B fees altogether for Medical, hospital and medication. But IMO it has been well worth it.

[Ralf001]

16 hours ago, proton said:

Atarax as well dirt cheap

2x25mg atarax and 1mg of xanax does it for me these days.... oyt solid for atleast 6 hrs.

[Skeptic7]

17 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Codiphen ( Diphenhydramine, drowsy antihistamine ) works very well

Agree. Codiphen. 

[SiSePuede419]

Vigorous, sustained exercise.

 

Not only will it help you sleep better, it's FREE and NON-TOXIC (unlike 100% of toxic "sleeping" pills) and it's healthy and actually increases the biomarkers associated with youth (makes you younger biologically).

 

 

[KannikaP]

2 hours ago, RayOday said:

I use it for 2 missing disks to sleep well.

Please explain. Thanks.

[Shifty]

[blackshadow]

19 hours ago, BillStrangeOgre said:

Hi, what are the strongest sleeping pills I could buy in a pharmacy here without a prescription? I just need them for a few days to get me off UK time at bed time. 

Thanks

 

 

why not ask in chemists?????

[AAArdvark]

19 hours ago, BillStrangeOgre said:

Hi, what are the strongest sleeping pills I could buy in a pharmacy here without a prescription? I just need them for a few days to get me off UK time at bed time. 

Thanks

 

 

You obviously don't do much traveling. Using pills is exactly the wrong way to do it. Just tough it out and force yourself to use the new timezone and in a couple days you will have adjusted. 

[Colabamumbai]

21 hours ago, Lacessit said:

If one wants to be up half a dozen times during the night peeing. Alcohol is a diuretic.

My wife told me I had to stop peeing 6 times a night, in the bed. 

[n00dle]

round my neck of the woods you can buy xanax and valium, and, im certain, other stuff over/under the counter.

not legal but certainly avialble.

I wouldnt reccomend xanax long term, but a couple nights isnt going to kill you. 


  

[n00dle]

2 hours ago, AAArdvark said:

You obviously don't do much traveling. Using pills is exactly the wrong way to do it. Just tough it out and force yourself to use the new timezone and in a couple days you will have adjusted. 

aaaaand you are obviously an expert and a genius.