Trump surrenders for historic fourth arrest

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, nauseus said:

Nothing to explain. My reply was to your first line. You don't know what I think.

Now you're being deliberately obtuse. You know very well I alluded to your unsupported and unexplained claim of irregularities. Why don't you abide by forum rules for once?

[Red Forever]

6 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Pure tyranny. I wonder whether anyone cheering the weaponization of the justice sytem is basing their sheer loathing of the man - and justification for this unprecedented coordinated attack on an ex Pres - on facts, rather than a well crafted narrative that paints him as an immoral and corrupt psychopath? Somehow I doubt it. 

 

[nauseus]

15 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

As I said, that's EXACTLY the problem! It looks like a racist, walks like a racist, quacks like a racist, but you just don't WANT it to be a racist so, as 45 has been so fond of saying, "Don't believe your eyes, believe what I tell you."

I was referring to you last line: I could go on, but I grow bored with wasting my time.

 

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

How is he racist? 

Nationalistic, I agree, nothing wrong with that. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/06/16/theyre-rapists-presidents-trump-campaign-launch-speech-two-years-later-annotated/

 

"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

[metisdead]

Off topic posts about the Reichstag in violation of our Community Standards have been removed.

[nauseus]

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

Now you're being deliberately obtuse. You know very well I alluded to your unsupported and unexplained claim of irregularities. Why don't you abide by forum rules for once?

And now you know what I was referring to. 

 

If you are so keen on forum rules, stop making thinks up.

[ozimoron]

Just now, Danderman123 said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/06/16/theyre-rapists-presidents-trump-campaign-launch-speech-two-years-later-annotated/

 

"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

How many white supremacist hate groups have arisen since Obama and during Trump's time? How is it that every member to a man love Trump? Did Trump not call them good people when they chanted "Jews will not replace us" at a rally where one of their ilk killed a woman protesting? Were Trump's people not in close contact with these filth before the Jan insurrection? Did many of them go to jail for decades for trying to keep Trump in power? On what planet is Trump not racist?

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, nauseus said:

And now you know what I was referring to. 

 

If you are so keen on forum rules, stop making thinks up.

What part of asking you to explain what irregularities occurred during the Fulton county election was making stuff up?

[Red Forever]

5 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Some here seem intent on him being jailed due to their personal political view rather than whether he is guilty or not. ???? 

Who are you referring to Trump or Mr T?

Your post could apply to either.

 

[proton]

At least with people they see as a threat they don't blow their brains out on the these days, as in 1963!

Edited August 25, 2023 by proton

[nauseus]

12 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

What part of asking you to explain what irregularities occurred during the Fulton county election was making stuff up?

You didn't ask me to explain anything.

 

Read back, preferably in English.

[ozimoron]

6 minutes ago, nauseus said:

You didn't ask me to explain anything.

 

Read back, preferably in English.

This was what I asked you to explain and which you have still yet to do.

 

All this back and forth could have been avoided if you could just sum up a modicum of respect for forum rules.

 

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I think it was targeted after so many reported irregularities during the election itself.

 

Edited August 25, 2023 by ozimoron

[Liverpool Lou]

5 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Please advise which of the 91 charges against Trump are false.

Daft question without discovery (unless you're part of his legal team, of course).  It'll come out in court.

[Liverpool Lou]

5 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

So  you can't argue the law or the facts, apparently.

No one outside of the legal teams have the facts of the case so you cannot argue anything, either!

Edited August 25, 2023 by Liverpool Lou

[ozimoron]

4 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

No one outside of the legal teams have the facts of the case so you cannot argue anything, either!

I think that's a pretty shallow interpretation of the facts of this case. For example, we've all heard the perfect phone call. Several times.

Edited August 25, 2023 by ozimoron

[Liverpool Lou]

5 hours ago, placeholder said:

And claim that all the cases are politically inspired.

They are!

[ozimoron]

4 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Hyperbole.  Did he lock her up?  How could you know what his intent was?

He said so. Are we not to believe him?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/09/trump-once-led-chants-of-lock-her-up-now-hes-been-indicted-on-seven-counts

Edited August 25, 2023 by ozimoron

[Danderman123]

5 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Daft question without discovery (unless you're part of his legal team, of course).  It'll come out in court.

What you are saying is that you personally are unaware of anything false in the 91 charges against Trump (because you haven't seen the discovery material yet).

 

 

[Danderman123]

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

They are!

But you are personally unaware if any of the 91 charges against Trump are false.

 

Right?

[Liverpool Lou]

5 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

And another likely older legal maxim:

 

Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat.

 

The burden of the proof lies upon him who affirms, not he who denies. 

 

 

Oh, no, the rabble here won't like that!

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Hyperbole.  Did he lock her up?  How could you know what his intent was?

Provide my full quote next time if you want a reply

[Danderman123]

3 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Hyperbole.  Did he lock her up?  How could you know what his intent was?

Are you saying that Trump was lying when he said he would put Hillary Clinton in jail?

[Liverpool Lou]

5 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Hundreds of pages of indictments are a pretty decent affirmation.

No, they are allegations, not affirmations.

[Liverpool Lou]

5 hours ago, Sing_Sling said:

He is guilty to anyone who has a shred of decency and knowledge of the laws he has broken. 

At this stage that is b0llocks, he is innocent of these charges until proven otherwise.

[Bkk Brian]

7 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

No one outside of the legal teams have the facts of the case so you cannot argue anything, either!

I take it you've no read the prosecution indictments, a formal written accusation of crime.

 

In the United States, where a grand jury indictment is required by the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution for federal prosecutions, the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure (1946), applicable to federal district courts, provide that the indictment “shall be a plain, concise, and definite written statement of the essential facts constituting the offense charged.” 

https://www.britannica.com/topic/indictment

 

 

[Liverpool Lou]

Just now, Danderman123 said:

Just now, Liverpool Lou said:

Hyperbole.  Did he lock her up?  How could you know what his intent was?

Are you saying that Trump was lying when he said he would put Hillary Clinton in jail?

No, I said it was hyperbole...but what if he was lying?

[Nick Carter icp]

6 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Are you saying that Trump was lying when he said he would put Hillary Clinton in jail?

That was political banter during a debate , rather than a direct threat of intention 

 

 

[Tropposurfer]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

 

This is the official mugshot of Donald Trump released by the Fulton County Sheriff's Office

 

Source: BBC

Sing to the tune of bad boys bad boys what ya gunna do;

 

'Rat boy rat boy what ya gunna do when they come for you

Rat boy rat boy what ya gunna do'

[Peabody]

4 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

To be fair, persecuting your chief political opponent...

Twittler is being prosecuted, not persecuted.

 

Who is doing this? Thought it is DoJ.

[ozimoron]

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

That was political banter during a debate , rather than a direct threat of intention

Are you implying that it was the only time he said it and took no actions to effect her indictment?