Popular Post snoop1130 Posted August 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2023 From this Friday (September 1), beer in glass containers will be banned from Koh Tao as part of attempts to solve the garbage problem on the island. Only canned beer will be allowed, said Pollution Control Department director general Pinsak Suraswadi on Wednesday. Vendors on the island will sell only canned beer, he said. The ban is part of the cooperation between the department, Surat Thani authorities and other agencies concerned, who all agreed to push for tourism on Koh Tao to be sustainable. Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/no-more-beer-in-glass-bottles-on-koh-tao/ -- Thai PBS 2023-08-30 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. Get our Daily Newsletter - Click HERE to subscribe 1 1 2 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Coke, Pepsi and Est???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) Great idea. I switched to cans years ago. Unfortunately, not all beers are available in cans. But bottles of single malt scotch whisky? Changing that is a no no.???? Edited August 30, 2023 by Tropicalevo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted August 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2023 Isn't this upside down ??? Glass is perhaps the most environmentally and trash-free of all the potential receptacles. The beach is basically made up of 'glass'... The logic behind this is preposterous, it is perhaps only vaguely understandable how some such policy can be put place after living here and seeing the irrational and utterly illogical decisions take effect. Even can's have plastic inside them.... 17 2 6 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted August 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Tropicalevo said: Great idea. I switched to cans years ago. Unfortunately, not all beers are available in cans. But bottles of single malt scotch whisky? Changing that is a no no.???? Why is it a great idea ? Glass bottles are not polluting and fully recyclable... Cans have a plastic lining. 6 1 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sticky Rice Balls Posted August 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2023 just try and take my glass sangsom bottle from my cold dead hands! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoePai Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, Sticky Rice Balls said: just try and take my glass sangsom bottle from my cold dead hands! RIP 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tropicalevo Posted August 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: Why is it a great idea ? Glass bottles are not polluting and fully recyclable... Cans have a plastic lining. Cans compact down. So it is easier to put them into garbage bags for the recycle collectors. Also, many more in a bag. The collectors that make a living from collecting the recycle items make more money than with glass bottles. (So they told me.) They prefer cans. Lighter to carry, easier to carry and do not break and cause damage. Broken bottles mixed up with the garbage are very nasty. The bottles only make money when they are in the original box and can be returned to the brewery. Again, so I was informed. Broken glass bottles are very dangerous pollution. Not all recycling places will take bottles. So they are not fully recyclable. They will all buy cans. These comments are based on living in Samui. All of our garbage is shipped to the mainland. Eventually. 8 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tropicalevo Posted August 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2023 22 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: Glass is perhaps the most environmentally and trash-free of all the potential receptacles. The beach is basically made up of 'glass'... Try selling that line to a mother whose kid has just stepped on glass from a broken bottle on the beach. 2 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 It didn't go quite according to plan when Coke switched from glass bottles to plastic on Samoa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Tropicalevo said: Try selling that line to a mother whose kid has just stepped on glass from a broken bottle on the beach. I don't recall the last time I was at a beach (or a pool) that allowed glass containers, for that very reason. I do recall the 6th grade when I stepped on some broken glass in the water and badly slit my foot. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2long Posted August 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2023 So how do people now drink a 'large' beer? Local Somchais all around the country like large bottles of Leo or Chang. I can see where this idea is coming from, but surely there are other ways of improving the situation. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 53 minutes ago, 2long said: So how do people now drink a 'large' beer? Foster's solved that problem nicely. With their 10w40 cans. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: Why is it a great idea ? Glass bottles are not polluting and fully recyclable... Cans have a plastic lining. I'd guess that weight and volume are factors, as all recyclables have to be transported off the island. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted August 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2023 4 hours ago, Tropicalevo said: Cans compact down. So it is easier to put them into garbage bags for the recycle collectors. Also, many more in a bag. The collectors that make a living from collecting the recycle items make more money than with glass bottles. (So they told me.) They prefer cans. Lighter to carry, easier to carry and do not break and cause damage. Broken bottles mixed up with the garbage are very nasty. The bottles only make money when they are in the original box and can be returned to the brewery. Again, so I was informed. Broken glass bottles are very dangerous pollution. Not all recycling places will take bottles. So they are not fully recyclable. They will all buy cans. These comments are based on living in Samui. All of our garbage is shipped to the mainland. Eventually. Makes sense... thanks for the explanation. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 4 hours ago, Tropicalevo said: 4 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: Glass is perhaps the most environmentally and trash-free of all the potential receptacles. The beach is basically made up of 'glass'... Try selling that line to a mother whose kid has just stepped on glass from a broken bottle on the beach. No one ever cut themselves on a torn open beer can, or a sharp fragmented shell ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 1 hour ago, chickenslegs said: I'd guess that weight and volume are factors, as all recyclables have to be transported off the island. Yeah... That angle makes good sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: No one ever cut themselves on a torn open beer can, or a sharp fragmented shell ? No, never. To use the words of someone earlier in the thread (can't be ar_sed to check who) that's a "preposterous, irrational and utterly illogical" idea! Edited August 30, 2023 by Liverpool Lou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted August 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: 42 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: No one ever cut themselves on a torn open beer can, or a sharp fragmented shell ? No, never. To use the words of someone earlier in the thread (can't be ar_sed to check who) that's a "preposterous, irrational and utterly illogical" idea! WRONG - people cut themselves on the beach on torn open beer cans.... I've seen it a few times. However, as you have rightly gloated... Other post have been informative and I now understand the logic of such a policy to ban glass beer bottles and instead utilise more cans, it is borne of compatibility, volume, transport issues rather than the specific environmental impact of the individual receptacle which was not well explained in the Op. Edited August 30, 2023 by richard_smith237 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikke1959 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) Not enough plastic to destroy the enviroment.. Please more straws and plastic bags too..and no bins anymore... Edited August 30, 2023 by ikke1959 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 4 hours ago, 2long said: So how do people now drink a 'large' beer? Local Somchais all around the country like large bottles of Leo or Chang. I can see where this idea is coming from, but surely there are other ways of improving the situation. Not many Somchais on Koh Tao. Mostly Burmese, foreigners living/working there and tourists. All garbage on Koh Tao (and the other nearby islands) has to be taken to the mainland by boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 9 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: Why is it a great idea ? Because Pinsak Suraswadis brother has just opened a can re cycling plant. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 12 hours ago, Tropicalevo said: Cans compact down. So it is easier to put them into garbage bags for the recycle collectors. Also, many more in a bag. The collectors that make a living from collecting the recycle items make more money than with glass bottles. (So they told me.) They prefer cans. Lighter to carry, easier to carry and do not break and cause damage. Broken bottles mixed up with the garbage are very nasty. The bottles only make money when they are in the original box and can be returned to the brewery. Again, so I was informed. Broken glass bottles are very dangerous pollution. Not all recycling places will take bottles. So they are not fully recyclable. They will all buy cans. These comments are based on living in Samui. All of our garbage is shipped to the mainland. Eventually. Have they never heard of a bottle bank? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nikmar Posted August 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2023 14 hours ago, Sticky Rice Balls said: just try and take my glass sangsom bottle from my cold dead hands! I really wouldnt want to say that on ko Tao. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 I would start with some clean up among all those unsolved murder cases ..... might be more effective than glass and aluminium together. Latter is definitely the poorer choice as far as environment issues are concerned and many beer drinkers might agree to the fact, that a beer from a can tastes not as good as from a bottle ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratman Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 good move and charge 5 Baht per can and pay the 5 Baht per can when taken to recycle center like in the USA 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hakuna Matata Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Well, some countries use plastic bottles for beer. Not so bad. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatOilWorker Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 17 hours ago, VocalNeal said: Coke, Pepsi and Est???? Est, taste like piss. Buy one - enjoy twice ????. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AgMech Cowboy Posted August 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2023 18 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: Isn't this upside down ??? Glass is perhaps the most environmentally and trash-free of all the potential receptacles. The beach is basically made up of 'glass'... The logic behind this is preposterous, it is perhaps only vaguely understandable how some such policy can be put place after living here and seeing the irrational and utterly illogical decisions take effect. Even can's have plastic inside them.... Yep, glass is the easiest to recycle. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tropicalevo Posted August 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2023 7 hours ago, hotchilli said: Have they never heard of a bottle bank? On Koh Tao. I doubt it. What good would that do? They still have to ship everything to the mainland. It is probably the shipping that is the bigger problem. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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