SunnyinBangrak Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 20 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: Isn't this upside down ??? Glass is perhaps the most environmentally and trash-free of all the potential receptacles. The beach is basically made up of 'glass'... The logic behind this is preposterous, it is perhaps only vaguely understandable how some such policy can be put place after living here and seeing the irrational and utterly illogical decisions take effect. Even can's have plastic inside them.... Great post, but please do not try logically explaining greenness. It is feelings and virtue over fact. Koh Tao has problems. Glass bottles are somewhere near the bottom of the list in terms of seriousness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 20 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: Glass is perhaps the most environmentally and trash-free of all the potential receptacles. 100% correct, what genius came up with this nonsense they should all be sacked for gross stupidity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 any bar i frequent recycle all bottles back to suplier to be reclaimed back into the supply chain, also bins are provided for glass throughout the country, even in my condo glass bottles are recycled they must be trying to address some other problem, maybe they should address that instead of this stupidity 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 20 hours ago, Tropicalevo said: The collectors that make a living from collecting the recycle items make more money than with glass bottles. (So they told me.) because generally most glass goes a different route as i described above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenStark Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Reinvent what they did a few decades ago. Add a return fee to glass bottles. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Tropicalevo said: On Koh Tao. I doubt it. What good would that do? They still have to ship everything to the mainland. It is probably the shipping that is the bigger problem. They manage to ship it in... they can ship it out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritScot Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 I remember 20 years ago this was a problem on the island and they still haven't sorted it out. Just can't rush these things I suppose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 21 hours ago, Tropicalevo said: Try selling that line to a mother whose kid has just stepped on glass from a broken bottle on the beach. That's not the recycling problem, that's when somebody leaves garbage in the wrong places. There are actually a number of recycling machines available that instantly can convert a glass bottle to sand... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 5 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said: Est, taste like piss. Buy one - enjoy twice ????. It's a question of taste... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 21 hours ago, VocalNeal said: It didn't go quite according to plan when Coke switched from glass bottles to plastic on Samoa. What happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 19 hours ago, impulse said: Foster's solved that problem nicely. With their 10w40 cans. I would never drink Australian engine oil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtrnuno41 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Very logical. It is an Island, so all bottles come from main land, weighing a lot. It is just dead weight. So cost a lot of fuel. Also you have to transport back, a lot of dead weight. Taking up volume then which you could use otherwise or safe on fuel. The cans can be squashed together, so less space and way lighter and they can and will be reused. For collecting back, put return money on it, should have been done earlier with the bottles. If tourist are too lazy to return, you can motivate Thai (kids?) to hunt for it, so they get some return money and keep the island clean of it. Return money in an island return money account from which is paid back to anyone delivering the cans, bottles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, hotchilli said: They manage to ship it in... they can ship it out Oh dear. Think about it please. You are comparing eggs to elephants. The supplier (rich businesses?) ship it in. The local government ship it out. If the residents of Koh Tao are anything like the residents on Koh Samui, then most of them do not pay the garbage collection taxes. That is why so many locals burn their garbage. The money has to come from somewhere. Edited August 31, 2023 by Tropicalevo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 On 8/30/2023 at 3:57 PM, snoop1130 said: beer in glass containers will be banned from Koh Tao With the island's reputation, maybe to prevent this: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 I did a scuba cleanup dive on koh Tao 25 years ago, just off the beach, gave up, too much rubbish under water 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Sounds like a great idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jak2002003 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 So now they will be drinkkng beers from plastic cups and the beach and sea will be littered with them. Nice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelli Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 On 8/30/2023 at 6:08 PM, 2long said: So how do people now drink a 'large' beer? Local Somchais all around the country like large bottles of Leo or Chang. I can see where this idea is coming from, but surely there are other ways of improving the situation. ???? real sorry you can get your big glass bottle of warm Chang and need to drink tallboys suffering economic hardship and breaking the monthly budget in the process. It's an island !sff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotweiler Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 10 hours ago, Ratman said: good move and charge 5 Baht per can and pay the 5 Baht per can when taken to recycle center like in the USA The US has one of the worst recycling rates in the world. (or as the case in many states...) NO recycling at all except for the homeless collecting discarded items. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 3 hours ago, xtrnuno41 said: For collecting back, put return money on it, should have been done earlier with the bottles. If tourist are too lazy to return, you can motivate Thai (kids?) to hunt for it, so they get some return money and keep the island clean of it. Return money in an island return money account from which is paid back to anyone delivering the cans, bottles. If you started paying kids for returning bottles, they'd soon be hauling boatloads of empty bottles from the mainland. Kids would line up at the dock, waiting to buy a wheelbarrow full of empty bottles to turn in at even a slight profit. Still wouldn't solve the biggest problem with glass bottles on the beach, which is broken glass cutting people who tend to walk barefoot when they're on holiday at the beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Rice Balls Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 12 hours ago, nikmar said: I really wouldnt want to say that on ko Tao. 2 for 1 on Murder Island! Promo! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Bull Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 If you require a big enough deposit on the bottles they will soon be picked up say 20B. I remember in Switzerland a long time ago the deposit on a milk bottle was more than the milk in the bottle. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 12 hours ago, Tropicalevo said: Oh dear. Think about it please. You are comparing eggs to elephants. The supplier (rich businesses?) ship it in. The local government ship it out. If the residents of Koh Tao are anything like the residents on Koh Samui, then most of them do not pay the garbage collection taxes. That is why so many locals burn their garbage. The money has to come from somewhere. Yes, like I said... but you missed my point, because yo weren't thinking. The rich businesses pay for the collection services. They ship it in, they ship it out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank83628 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 15 hours ago, Tropicalevo said: Oh dear. Think about it please. You are comparing eggs to elephants. The supplier (rich businesses?) ship it in. The local government ship it out. If the residents of Koh Tao are anything like the residents on Koh Samui, then most of them do not pay the garbage collection taxes. That is why so many locals burn their garbage. The money has to come from somewhere. there isn't a 'Singha' or 'Chang' boat that ships it over.... all the supplies for the Island are brought in by privately owned companies, you buy stock for you bar, restaurant etc, you pay shipping.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Why cannot the breweries reuse the empty bottles? The cost of the empty bottles can be reduced from the selling price - to encourage the return of empties. The delivery trucks themselves can take the empties back to the breweries. Similar to the domestic cooking gas cylinders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 1 hour ago, frank83628 said: there isn't a 'Singha' or 'Chang' boat that ships it over.... all the supplies for the Island are brought in by privately owned companies, you buy stock for you bar, restaurant etc, you pay shipping.... And how many suppliers/bars/shops on Koh Tao do you know that will pay to ship their empties back to the mainland? Who collects it at the other end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 4 hours ago, hotchilli said: Yes, like I said... but you missed my point, because yo weren't thinking. The rich businesses pay for the collection services. They ship it in, they ship it out. Please share with us their response to you when you tell them that little gem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 28 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said: Please share with us their response to you when you tell them that little gem. My response as governor would be, if you don't ship it out, you don't ship it in.. I guarantee within days it would be solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, hotchilli said: My response as governor would be, if you don't ship it out, you don't ship it in.. I guarantee within days it would be solved. It is solved. No more bottles. Edited September 1, 2023 by Tropicalevo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank83628 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 3 hours ago, Tropicalevo said: It is solved. No more bottles. its not....fridges were full of bottles last night, none of my bar owner friends have said anything about it either..... maybe it's fake news.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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