NextG Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 30 minutes ago, BritManToo said: Beating or drugging is abuse, anything else is not. I don't believe there is 1 woman in the west without the power to instantly report any man that abuses her. Refuges in every town. As a guy when I tried to report a woman, after she had thrown boiling water over my back (hospital treatment for 3rd degree burns). I was told by the desk sergeant in a police station to 'man up'. In the west it's women that abuse men. The reality is abuse is only abuse when a woman is pointing the finger, no physical evidence required. And quite frankly I'm tired of your constant man hating posts. You have a very obviously skewed view of the world. It’s not that unusual, but you need to understand that it is not universal. Please explain what you would do if you found out an adult male had groomed your son? Of course I don’t need you to reply to that question. It’s abuse, even without ‘beating or drugging’. People who should hold themselves to higher standards, taking advantage of the vulnerable. You don’t care, until it affects you. Nothing to do with men at all. Lots of abusive women out there. I also know of female teachers who were openly ‘perving’ over their students and also violent and violently abusive women. The ‘man hating’ is simply a figment of your imagination. Times change and we need to learn how to adapt. Probably you grew up in a time, wherein, much as in Thailand, the police would not involve themselves in a ‘domestic’. Obviously that has changed for various reasons and possibly some have found it hard to adapt. No one said that life was fair, but it’s up to you to try to maintain a good environment for you and yours. I’m pretty sure that you wouldn’t be sticking to your definition of abuse if your son were involved. The perpetrator would be taking a long sleep and you would pay your fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 3 hours ago, JonnyF said: Don't get me wrong, I dislike Brand. However, my position is that everyone should be innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, even people who I think are a complete nob. Brand is currently innocent , he hasn't been found to be guilty yet . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 3 hours ago, JonnyF said: Besides, you missed the point again. I wasn't saying I wanted a thread on the BBC perv. I was simply stating the Brand story is such a huge story because of Brand's fame/notoriety which is primarily due to his politically charged YouTube channel and his views. Brand was famous before his current YouTube channels . He hosted numerous events 20 years ago on TV and appeared in numerous Hollywood films . Its only recently when his fame dwindled that be began his Youtube channals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, NextG said: Please explain what you would do if you found out an adult male had groomed your son? I would consider it my fault for not supervising my son and his activities. Unlike many parents, my children are always supervised and protected. Edited September 28, 2023 by BritManToo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextG Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BritManToo said: I would consider it my fault for not supervising my son and his activities. Unlike many parents, my children are always supervised and protected. So you’d hate yourself ???? Though more seriously, since you obviously are choosing to deflect, you wouldn’t consider it abuse but simply the natural behaviour of a predator and simply accept it as ‘normal’. Understood. Edited September 28, 2023 by NextG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 43 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Brand is currently innocent , he hasn't been found to be guilty yet . Exactly. That's why the attempts to deny him the right to earn a living are so abhorrent. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 36 minutes ago, BritManToo said: I would consider it my fault for not supervising my son and his activities. Unlike many parents, my children are always supervised and protected. You are with your children 24/7/365? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Just now, JonnyF said: Exactly. That's why the attempts to deny him the right to earn a living are so abhorrent. Russel Brand is worth about $20 Million and I doubt that he need the money from Youtube to keep food on his table . Whether Russel Brand should be allowed to put videos on YouTube or not is a different matter and its up to You tube about what they allow on their site 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Exactly. That's why the attempts to deny him the right to earn a living are so abhorrent. Or profit from crime. I’m sure he can bring a civil case if he feels he’s being unjustly treated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said: Russel Brand is worth about $20 Million and I doubt that he need the money from Youtube to keep food on his table . Whether Russel Brand should be allowed to put videos on YouTube or not is a different matter and its up to You tube about what they allow on their site Income tested cancellation. A fascinating concept. Maybe we could just cancel based on political beliefs? Oh... wait a minute 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: Or profit from crime. I’m sure he can bring a civil case if he feels he’s being unjustly treated. Are you replying to the wrong post again? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Income tested cancellation. A fascinating concept. Maybe we could just cancel based on political beliefs? Oh... wait a minute Back to your baseless conspiracy again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Income tested cancellation. A fascinating concept. Maybe we could just cancel based on political beliefs? Oh... wait a minute It is probably just a case on You Tube not wanting accused people and their alleged victims having arguments about what happened on their You tube channels . They wouldn't want accused people replying on their channals 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: It is probably just a case on You Tube not wanting accused people and their alleged victims having arguments about what happened on their You tube channels . They wouldn't want accused people replying on their channals Yeah that must be it. I will move along swiftly. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: It is probably just a case on You Tube not wanting accused people and their alleged victims having arguments about what happened on their You tube channels . They wouldn't want accused people replying on their channals Ask yourself this question. You run a business, a customer is accused of heinous crimes and wants to use your business as a platform from which to broadcast their defense (rational or otherwise). Do you allow this customer to do so or do you suspend their use of your business platform and tell them to come back when it’s all sorted? Your business, your choice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 29 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: You run a business, a customer is accused of heinous crimes and wants to use your business as a platform from which to broadcast their defense (rational or otherwise). Depends on their political leanings. Many people accused but not convicted of crimes are free to post on YouTube. The majority are left wing. As are the owners. Weird huh... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Just now, JonnyF said: Depends on their political leanings. Many people accused but not convicted of crimes are free to post on YouTube. The majority are left wing. As are the owners. Weird huh... Or do you allege. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Daley Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 (edited) He is an outspoken fiercely intelligent person with a large platform. So it's either a rape case or a tax case. Andrew Tate got both. Edited September 28, 2023 by Chris Daley 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, Chris Daley said: He is an outspoken fiercely intelligent person with a large platform. Did he show it to you as well ? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 7 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said: Did he show it to you as well ? If that's all you have to say, I won't be taking anything you have to say on this in the future seriously. I've noticed that certain posters that have nothing to refute those on the "other side" with, often resort to personal insults and trivialities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: <snip> I've noticed that certain posters that have nothing to refute those on the "other side" with, often resort to personal insults and trivialities. Oh, you’ve noticed that too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: If that's all you have to say, I won't be taking anything you have to say on this in the future seriously. I've noticed that certain posters that have nothing to refute those on the "other side" with, often resort to personal insults and trivialities. You shouldn't have taken it seriously , it was a bit of humour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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