Russell Brand: BBC and Channel 4 investigate allegations

[NextG]

30 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Beating or drugging is abuse, anything else is not.

 

I don't believe there is 1 woman in the west without the power to instantly report any man that abuses her. Refuges in every town.

 

As a guy when I tried to report a woman, after she had thrown boiling water over my back (hospital treatment for 3rd degree burns). I was told by the desk sergeant in a police station to 'man up'. In the west it's women that abuse men.

 

The reality is abuse is only abuse when a woman is pointing the finger, no physical evidence required.

 

And quite frankly I'm tired of your constant man hating posts.

 

 

 

 

You have a very obviously skewed view of the world. It’s not that unusual, but you need to understand that it is not universal. 
Please explain what you would do if you found out an adult male had groomed your son?

Of course I don’t need you to reply to that question. 
It’s abuse, even without ‘beating or drugging’. 
People who should hold themselves to higher standards, taking advantage of the vulnerable. You don’t care, until it affects you. 
Nothing to do with men at all. Lots of abusive women out there. I also know of female teachers who were openly ‘perving’ over their students and also violent and violently abusive women. 
The ‘man hating’ is simply a figment of your imagination. 
Times change and we need to learn how to adapt. Probably you grew up in a time, wherein, much as in Thailand, the police would not involve themselves in a ‘domestic’. Obviously that has changed for various reasons and possibly some have found it hard to adapt. 
No one said that life was fair, but it’s up to you to try to maintain a good environment for you and yours. I’m pretty sure that you wouldn’t be sticking to your definition of abuse if your son were involved. The perpetrator would be taking a long sleep and you would pay your fine. 

[Nick Carter icp]

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Don't get me wrong, I dislike Brand. However, my position is that everyone should be innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, even people who I think are a complete nob.

Brand is currently innocent , he hasn't been found to be guilty yet .

[Nick Carter icp]

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Besides, you missed the point again. I wasn't saying I wanted a thread on the BBC perv. I was simply stating the Brand story is such a huge story because of Brand's fame/notoriety which is primarily due to his politically charged YouTube channel and his views.

Brand was famous before his current YouTube channels . 

He hosted numerous events 20 years ago on TV and appeared in numerous Hollywood films .

   Its only recently when his fame dwindled that be began his Youtube channals

  

[BritManToo]

18 minutes ago, NextG said:

Please explain what you would do if you found out an adult male had groomed your son?

I would consider it my fault for not supervising my son and his activities. Unlike many parents, my children are always supervised and protected.

Edited September 28, 2023 by BritManToo

[NextG]

4 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I would consider it my fault for not supervising my son and his activities. Unlike many parents, my children are always supervised and protected.

So you’d hate yourself ????
Though more seriously, since you obviously are choosing to deflect, you wouldn’t consider it abuse but simply the natural behaviour of a predator and simply accept it as ‘normal’. Understood. 

Edited September 28, 2023 by NextG

[JonnyF]

43 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Brand is currently innocent , he hasn't been found to be guilty yet .

Exactly. That's why the attempts to deny him the right to earn a living are so abhorrent.

[Chomper Higgot]

36 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I would consider it my fault for not supervising my son and his activities. Unlike many parents, my children are always supervised and protected.

You are with your children 24/7/365?

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

Just now, JonnyF said:

Exactly. That's why the attempts to deny him the right to earn a living are so abhorrent.

Russel Brand is worth about $20 Million  and I doubt that he need the money from Youtube to keep food on his table .

   Whether Russel Brand should be allowed to put videos on YouTube or not is a different matter and its up to You tube about what they allow on their site 

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Exactly. That's why the attempts to deny him the right to earn a living are so abhorrent.

Or profit from crime.

 

I’m sure he can bring a civil case if he feels he’s being unjustly treated.

[JonnyF]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Russel Brand is worth about $20 Million  and I doubt that he need the money from Youtube to keep food on his table .

   Whether Russel Brand should be allowed to put videos on YouTube or not is a different matter and its up to You tube about what they allow on their site 

Income tested cancellation.

 

A fascinating concept.

 

Maybe we could just cancel based on political beliefs? Oh... wait a minute 

[JonnyF]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Or profit from crime.

 

I’m sure he can bring a civil case if he feels he’s being unjustly treated.

Are you replying to the wrong post again?

 

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Income tested cancellation.

 

A fascinating concept.

 

Maybe we could just cancel based on political beliefs? Oh... wait a minute 

Back to your baseless conspiracy again.

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Income tested cancellation.

 

A fascinating concept.

 

Maybe we could just cancel based on political beliefs? Oh... wait a minute 

It is probably just a case on You Tube not wanting accused people and their alleged victims having arguments about what happened on their You tube channels .

   They wouldn't want accused people replying on their channals 

[JonnyF]

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

It is probably just a case on You Tube not wanting accused people and their alleged victims having arguments about what happened on their You tube channels .

   They wouldn't want accused people replying on their channals 

Yeah that must be it.

 

I will move along swiftly.

 

????

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

It is probably just a case on You Tube not wanting accused people and their alleged victims having arguments about what happened on their You tube channels .

   They wouldn't want accused people replying on their channals 

Ask yourself this question.

 

You run a business, a customer is accused of heinous crimes and wants to use your business as a platform from which to broadcast their defense (rational or otherwise).

 

Do you allow this customer to do so or do you suspend their use of your business platform and tell them to come back when it’s all sorted?

 

Your business, your choice.

 

[JonnyF]

29 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You run a business, a customer is accused of heinous crimes and wants to use your business as a platform from which to broadcast their defense (rational or otherwise).

Depends on their political leanings.

 

Many people accused but not convicted of crimes are free to post on YouTube.

 

The majority are left wing. As are the owners. Weird huh... 

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, JonnyF said:

Depends on their political leanings.

 

Many people accused but not convicted of crimes are free to post on YouTube.

 

The majority are left wing. As are the owners. Weird huh... 

 

 

Or do you allege.

 

[Chris Daley]

He is an outspoken fiercely intelligent person with a large platform.  So it's either a rape case or a tax case.  Andrew Tate got both.

Edited September 28, 2023 by Chris Daley

[Nick Carter icp]

9 minutes ago, Chris Daley said:

He is an outspoken fiercely intelligent person with a large platform.  

Did he show it to you  as well ?

[thaibeachlovers]

7 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Did he show it to you  as well ?

If that's all you have to say, I won't be taking anything you have to say on this in the future seriously.

I've noticed that certain posters that have nothing to refute those on the "other side" with, often resort to personal insults and trivialities.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

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I've noticed that certain posters that have nothing to refute those on the "other side" with, often resort to personal insults and trivialities.

Oh, you’ve noticed that too.

[Nick Carter icp]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If that's all you have to say, I won't be taking anything you have to say on this in the future seriously.

I've noticed that certain posters that have nothing to refute those on the "other side" with, often resort to personal insults and trivialities.

You shouldn't have taken it seriously , it was a bit of humour