Witch hunt against 'Big Joke' persists: Police probe rental properties linked to top cop

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

One of the things I found particularly interesting was when various of the news reports listed and named the 8 officers supposedly linked to Surachate, or referred to as his subordinates, who allegedly were linked to the online gambling network.

 

The 8 officers were spread out all over the RTP, in different geographies and different types of units within the RTP... some in Immigration, some in province stations, some in Traffic, etc etc...

 

I wonder just how officers in the RTP end up becoming part of BJ's team?  And what they have to do in order to become members?

 

[youngster30uk]

1 hour ago, Scottie12 said:

Used to be easy to get retirement visa based on earnings letter from Consul until Big Joke stopped it for no reason, keep hunting witches,couldn't happen to a nicer person.

Pretty sure it was stopped before he went to Immigration

[mark131v]

Just now, Liverpool Lou said:

They're not his houses and what relevance is the gate?

Oh I don't know but aren't gated communities in BKK  a bit pricey isn't 5 houses on one estate unusual?

 

What about having four filled with his team isn't that a bit unusual?  never really heard of anybody needing their minions in 4 houses on the same gated estate in expensive BKK

 

What about the fact he is a General in an openly corrupt mafia like organisation? 

 

What about the fact he has had attempts on his life?

 

Certainly he doesn't sound to me like he is pure as the driven snow he is  RTP General a position that is commonly thought of as abjectly corrupt

 

Then again he might just be a cracking little saver, I know what I reckon is more likely!

[BritManToo]

1 minute ago, mark131v said:

Oh I don't know but aren't gated communities in BKK  a bit pricey isn't 5 houses on one estate unusual?

 

What about having four filled with his team isn't that a bit unusual?  never really heard of anybody needing their minions in 4 houses on the same gated estate in expensive BKK

 

What about the fact he is a General in an openly corrupt mafia like organisation? 

 

What about the fact he has had attempts on his life?

 

Certainly he doesn't sound to me like he is pure as the driven snow he is  RTP General a position that is commonly thought of as abjectly corrupt

 

Then again he might just be a cracking little saver, I know what I reckon is more likely!

It's fairly normal for gang members to live together, gives them more security/fire power when rival gangs come calling.

[hotchilli]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

He rented two houses from Tam, one for himself and one for his father, for 50,000 baht a month. Big Joke did not explain why Tam also let his subordinates live in the other three houses

Does he have to?

[Liverpool Lou]

2 minutes ago, mark131v said:

10 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

They're not his houses and what relevance is the gate?

Oh I don't know but aren't gated communities in BKK  a bit pricey isn't 5 houses on one estate unusual?

They're not his houses and where has it been stated that they are located in a "pricey gated community"

[hotchilli]

2 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

What is a Police General's salary per month? 

Not the same as income.

[MangoKorat]

39 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

or the MFP gets into power 

How might that happen?

Edited September 27, 2023 by MangoKorat

[Kalasin Jo]

It's not a witch hunt if any of this sticks. But one can't help suspecting he has as many enemies in the high ups as he does friends.

He was certainly very vocal on Amarin last night and appeared confident and unfazed, almost relishing the media attention. I have no idea what he actually said though 

[Purdey]

It is unlikely that Thailand will ever have a corruption free head of police because the system won't allow it. Paying for promotions and the lack of decent education prevents anyone "good" rising to a position of power. 

[Kalasin Jo]

7 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

They're not his houses and where has it been stated that they are located in a "pricey gated community"

Still he says he was renting at 50, 000 a month so not slumming it.

[Kalasin Jo]

Just now, Purdey said:

It is unlikely that Thailand will ever have a corruption free head of police because the system won't allow it. Paying for promotions and the lack of decent education prevents anyone "good" rising to a position of power. 

The UK met police don't seem much different, sadly, despite decent education available.

[kingstonkid]

9 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

How might that happen?

I think in about 2 years when they win the next election

[smedly]

25 minutes ago, mark131v said:

Here's a conundrum

 

If the people who are doing the investigating are unusually wealthy should they not too be investigated?

BJ doesn't have the numbers to back him, he would be going up against very powerful people who see him as a threat, best to just bite his tongue and keep his head down, I like him, he seems to be a cut above when it comes to integrity - exactly why he is seen as a threat

[connda]

2 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

What is a Police General's salary per month? 

Less than he makes off of his side businesses?  ????

[Liverpool Lou]

11 minutes ago, Kalasin Jo said:

22 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

They're not his houses and where has it been stated that they are located in a "pricey gated community"

Still he says he was renting at 50, 000 a month so not slumming it.

It also stated this...

"All five houses are owned by a Thai businessman known as Tam and his wife. Tam pays a community maintenance fee, estimated at 142,000 baht a year, and Amarin TV said Tam did not collect any rent from Big Joke".

[MangoKorat]

8 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

I think in about 2 years when they win the next election

The Senate will never allow anyone who is not a friend of the generals to be in power - that's why they were put in place.

 

All this talk of The Senate being disbanded - I'll believe when I see it.  Even if that was to happen, any new government that tries anything that upsets the piggies at their trough will result in a further coup.

[crazykopite]

If they want to start cleaning up corruption start at the very top and work downwards a good starting point would be all those who have been in government both past and present 

[shackleton]

He has obviously ruffled a few feathers upstairs doing his job through the years 

Seems to be a lot of jealous  people around maybe he is  stepping on a lot of toes and the powers to be are sending him a message to back off????

[KhaoNiaw]

In one of his media outings months ago, Chuwit warned Big Joke that if he wasn't careful he'd be brought down by the people he'd surrounded himself with. 

[AhFarangJa]

1 hour ago, Scottie12 said:

Used to be easy to get retirement visa based on earnings letter from Consul until Big Joke stopped it for no reason, keep hunting witches,couldn't happen to a nicer person.

I am also led to believe he wants to up the money in the bank to about 3 million Baht for retirement visa. That was the news about a month or so ago. I do not think he is a Farang friendly person, maybe I am wrong, but he has certainly ruffled some feathers somewhere. I wonder if he will arise as a phoenix like he did last time...

[JeffersLos]

1 hour ago, mark131v said:

Is it a witch-hunt if he is unusually wealthy?

 

He certainly appears unusually wealthy wonder how that could happen for a RTP General?

 

Rhetorical question you understand....

Because his wife is worth a billion baht through her father's businesses. 

[TigerandDog]

1 hour ago, Scottie12 said:

Used to be easy to get retirement visa based on earnings letter from Consul until Big Joke stopped it for no reason, keep hunting witches,couldn't happen to a nicer person.

Scottie you need to get your facts correct before making such an inaccurate comment. Big Joke didn't stop the earnings letters from Embassies/Consulates, that decision was solely taken by the Embassies/Consulates of the countries that no longer issue them. There are still Embassies/Consulates that issue them and Thai Immigration accepts them for extensions of stay.

[BestB]

Got to love the mentality , almost from

the same book as dead friend watches.

 

He is not a relative but does not collect any rent, while loved as a relative .

 

rented 2 houses for 50 000 but got 5 to use.

 

no doubt did not get anything in return , all in the name of love

 

Purely out of curiosity, why does BJ  or his father not own any property and need to rent ?

[The Joker]

Oh no! Now, the hunter has become the hunted.

[TigerandDog]

I really struggle at times to fathom the complete lack of common sense applied by some members when they post comments. Not a single poster has made mention of the 2 elephants in the room.  #1. The timing of the raid, viz 2 days prior to the announcement of who teh next top cop will be. #2. The fact the raid was led by Big Joke's main rival for the position.

 

What better way to virtually guarantee your appointment than to use any means available to discredit your opponent, whether valid or not.

 

All the numpties in here would rather post speculation without a single fact to support their absolute nonsense

Edited September 27, 2023 by TigerandDog

[robertson468]

2 hours ago, Scottie12 said:

Used to be easy to get retirement visa based on earnings letter from Consul until Big Joke stopped it for no reason, keep hunting witches,couldn't happen to a nicer person.

Wrong!  It was  Embassies were not in compliance with checking that the data they provided was correct!  Suggest you check your facts first before becoming a keyboard warrior.

[TigerandDog]

8 minutes ago, robertson468 said:

Wrong!  It was  Embassies were not in compliance with checking that the data they provided was correct!  Suggest you check your facts first before becoming a keyboard warrior.

the embassies may not have been compliant with regards to checking the information was correct, BUT it was those Embassies that decided not to issue earnings letters any longer. It was not a decision made by BJ or Immigration. If what you claim to be is correct WHY do many of the embassies still issue earnings letters and Immigration accepts them. So again you need to have ALL your facts correct and not justify an inaccurate comment by coming back with only a partially correct one.

 

Edited September 27, 2023 by TigerandDog

[orchidfan]

2 hours ago, moe666 said:

That decision was a lot higher than Big Joke.

The thing I've always found strange about this Embassy /Consulate "income thing"  is that if you go in to make a stat dec, then my understanding was that you, and only you, are making a declaration, and the Embassy were simply confirming your signature and Identity  .........

NOT SAYING  that your declaration is true or false!!!

 

Does.this mean then, that these Embassies not longer witness ANY stat. Decs???

[rbkk]

1 hour ago, Kalasin Jo said:

Still he says he was renting at 50, 000 a month so not slumming it.

Isn't that for the 2 houses combined? Him and his father.