2 hours ago, freedomnow said:

You'd not get double taxed and doing the one year wait on bringing income in is 2nd step ?- is it not clearly defined for UK citizens already to keep their tax habits right and more of a cashgrab against those other nationalities with no agreements ?

Not going to worry touchy about what has not happened yet.

with regards to tax. it's a waiting game.

2 minutes ago, quake said:

Not going to worry touchy about what has not happened yet.

with regards to tax. it's a waiting game.

Will probably be scrapped like everything else.....tax havens attract wealth and its in opposition to attractiveness of Elite scheme...multi-headed jabbering govt hydra issues an idea yet again...real money will take flight or just use offshoring and wise accounts

where the money juts buys what is needed vs pooling into Thai bank accounts.

 

Morons, so they are.

3 hours ago, freedomnow said:

Morons, so they are.

Experts at that now days, me thinks.  

 

I have lived in a few places and learnt, no matter how happy and settled you are, there can come a time when you move on. Totally unexpected and unplanned, in my case opportunity, or looking to improve where possible ????

So here I am in Thailand, it's pure pleasure most of the time, long may it continue, for how long? 

Ah the finger of fate could point at any time, and I will deal with it to the best of my ability ????

I will die in Thailand, no desire to return home.

Here a year, unlikely to go back to the states, we'll sell our house in 2-3 years there if we feel like we feel today.

 

If they want some tax money from me, I have no problem with that. I mean, duh. 

On 10/10/2023 at 3:31 AM, still kicking said:

I went back to OZ after many years in TH and don't regret any moment of it. I am not young anymore, so I have a lot of benefits in OZ which I don't have in TH. I get my full pension free Medicare which I would lose in TH. Free hospital if need it. My wife is Thai, and she also lives here in OZ, and she loves it here and we only go back to TH for holidays. And NO, it is not that expansive to live in OZ unless you live in Sydney or Melbourne. I live in the west in a city of 2 million and after selling our house and live for rent now we just pay 240 AUD on rent for a 2-bedroom unit. We still have our property in TH, so holidays are cheap no need to stay in a hotel. Since my wife is younger than me, she still works makes a minimum wage of 38 AUD per hr, (weekends up to 50 AUD) The climate is nice not too cold in winter and in summer we can have up to 42 degrees. We would lose all that in TH. So that is my answer to all whingers who say they could not go back.

I too am from one of those countries with “free“ medical. That's one of the reasons I prefer Thailand where I can get treated when I need it, not in months or years when an open slot comes up with the doctor. I'll happily pay for my own healthcare if I can get it when I need it. 

Though I can adapt to life just about anywhere, life has shown me that things aren’t always permanent and can change at any moment. I keep options/plans in the back of my mind if an unforeseen event occurs. Also have several options here in the north. I’m flexible and have assets in the US and can split on a moments notice, though I have no intention to. Everything here is just fine and dandy. It’s always good to have a plan and be mentally prepared for anything at any moment.

Our nature lies in movement; complete calm is death.

6 hours ago, gargamon said:

I too am from one of those countries with “free“ medical. That's one of the reasons I prefer Thailand where I can get treated when I need it, not in months or years when an open slot comes up with the doctor. I'll happily pay for my own healthcare if I can get it when I need it. 

I pay nothing for healthcare since I am a pensioner and also don't have to wait for an open slot as you say I ring up today and make an appointment for tomorrow

I don't know, I originally said I'd probably leave Thailand sometime in the future..but..I've been looking at how crazy expensive everything is back in my home country. I'm living here on about 50,000 baht a month which means I actually save a lot of my monthly salary. Back home I probably wouldn't save a single €. Aside from money issues do I really want to go back to rude people, crummy weather, rapidly declining IQ's, morbid obesity, & other lower quality of life issues? 

 

Maybe I should reconsider ever leaving LOS and implement my "I like Thai so here I die option."

11 minutes ago, Furioso said:

I don't know, I originally said I'd probably leave Thailand sometime in the future..but..I've been looking at how crazy expensive everything is back in my home country. I'm living here on about 50,000 baht a month which means I actually save a lot of my monthly salary. Back home I probably wouldn't save a single €. Aside from money issues do I really want to go back to rude people, crummy weather, rapidly declining IQ's, morbid obesity, & other lower quality of life issues? 

 

Maybe I should reconsider ever leaving LOS and implement my "I like Thai so here I die option."

I've been here over 20 years, it's too late for me to leave plus I don't want to, why would I. 

On 10/15/2023 at 11:38 PM, gargamon said:

I too am from one of those countries with “free“ medical. That's one of the reasons I prefer Thailand where I can get treated when I need it, not in months or years when an open slot comes up with the doctor. I'll happily pay for my own healthcare if I can get it when I need it. 

My friend's wife is slated for a knee replacement this year in 2023 on the NHS in Northern Ireland, if the appointment is not cancelled.

 

She has "only" been waiting 8 years.

 

AFAICS the NHS in the UK is overworked. very underpaid and very much underfunded.

 

The staff are extremely hard working but have been let down so many times by so many governments.

 

Build more hospitals was one answer. It probably takes 4 years to build it and perhaps 7 years to train enough doctors, nurses, ancillaries etc to man it. Then you need the support staff outside of the hospitals, ambulances and crews, support staff for home visits, etc. Making sure that patients actually have somewhere to go when they are discharged is big problem nowadays.

10 hours ago, billd766 said:

My friend's wife is slated for a knee replacement this year in 2023 on the NHS in Northern Ireland, if the appointment is not cancelled.

 

She has "only" been waiting 8 years.

 

AFAICS the NHS in the UK is overworked. very underpaid and very much underfunded.

 

The staff are extremely hard working but have been let down so many times by so many governments.

 

Build more hospitals was one answer. It probably takes 4 years to build it and perhaps 7 years to train enough doctors, nurses, ancillaries etc to man it. Then you need the support staff outside of the hospitals, ambulances and crews, support staff for home visits, etc. Making sure that patients actually have somewhere to go when they are discharged is big problem nowadays.

Our family doctor here in South Dakota is English

 

I was talking to him couple of weeks ago when I went for my annual physical.

 

He moved here 6 years ago, said he was just tired of the whole NHS, and wanted to be able to actually spent time with his patients, oh and incidentally he earns twice as much as he did in the UK!

 

Our system may well be f***ked up, but I can get to see a Doctor within a day

2 hours ago, GinBoy2 said:

Our system may well be f***ked up, but I can get to see a Doctor within a day

If you can afford the doctor.

Both kind of systems have good and bad sides. 

24 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

If you can afford the doctor.

Both kind of systems have good and bad sides. 

Affording the Dr. in the US is not the issue. It's whether you have insurance or not. Most employed are covered, seniors are covered to an extent, not as good as employer's plans without kicking in extra money per month. Unemployed of course are not covered in most cases. 

1 hour ago, gargamon said:

Affording the Dr. in the US is not the issue. It's whether you have insurance or not. Most employed are covered, seniors are covered to an extent, not as good as employer's plans without kicking in extra money per month. Unemployed of course are not covered in most cases. 

Many qualify for Medicaid, so will be covered.

1 hour ago, gargamon said:

Unemployed of course are not covered in most cases. 

Of course ...

How long is a piece of string? For the moment, I'm happy, and things are pretty effed up in the UK. Things could change, I suppose. Be a bit wary of saying definitively "forever", but that's the current game plan.

On 10/15/2023 at 12:38 PM, gargamon said:

I too am from one of those countries with “free“ medical. That's one of the reasons I prefer Thailand where I can get treated when I need it, not in months or years when an open slot comes up with the doctor. I'll happily pay for my own healthcare if I can get it when I need it. 

I know from a previous post you are referring to the Canadian health care system.

you are completely full of BS!

no one with serious issues waits that long, I have friends and family who have had cancer surgery within a week!

nobody dies on the streets here waiting for medical attention!

I’ve had fabulous treatment from specialist in quick order!

seen a plastic surgeon within a week for moles on my back!

you are completely wrong!🤦🤦🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️👎

3 hours ago, Northstar1 said:

I know from a previous post you are referring to the Canadian health care system.

you are completely full of BS!

no one with serious issues waits that long, I have friends and family who have had cancer surgery within a week!

nobody dies on the streets here waiting for medical attention!

I’ve had fabulous treatment from specialist in quick order!

seen a plastic surgeon within a week for moles on my back!

you are completely wrong!🤦🤦🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️👎

Yes, if you're going to die tomorrow then they will proceed you quickly. But getting whatever diagnostics done to determine if you might die tomorrow can be problematic with months wait. I had a friend who eventually received a pacemaker on an emergency basis after they used a holter monitor. The problem is that he had to wait 3 months to get a holter monitor. So clearly he was in an emergency situation for a least 3 months where he could have easily died. How many others you think died waiting for diagnostics?

 

My example, I was waiting well over a year for hernia surgery, and two weeks before the scheduled date it was cancelled. I'm fortunate in that I worked in the US long enough to qualify for Medicare. I initiated a call to a surgeon in Florida on Friday, flew in on Monday, met surgeon Tuesday, and had the operation 3 days later. I think my non-travel costs were around $250. This is how it should work, not the rationed health care you get in Canada, UK, etc socialized medicine systems. I want health care all the time, not just when if I don't get it now I will die tomorrow.