Israel is at War - General discussion (pt2)

[Jeff the Chef]

8 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Eh? I don't have to provide you with multiple links. It's enough to provide a single credible one, and like it or not, the one I posted is accepted on here. It's been linked on these topics numerous times. I mentioned that I think this was carried by other media outlets, but wasn't paying attention whether they did their own thing, or simply carried the same story.

 

Stop with the silly trolling, please.

Times of Israel, proper propaganda, if there are no independent journalist, who have the freedom to publish, it's tomorrows fish and chip paper.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Times of Israel, proper propaganda, if there are no independent journalist, who have the freedom to publish, it's tomorrows fish and chip paper.

Just because its fish and chip paper for you, its a credible source here

[ozimoron]

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Just because its fish and chip paper for you, its a credible source here

 

So is Infowars if I'm not mistaken

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

So is Infowars if I'm not mistaken

You are often mistaken but I have no idea what your rumbling on about now

 

Overall, InfoWars/Alex Jones is a crackpot, tin foil hat-level conspiracy website that strongly promotes pseudoscience. The amount of fake news, debunked conspiracy claims, and extreme right-wing bias renders InfoWars a non-credible source.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/infowars-alex-jones

Edited December 26, 2023 by Bkk Brian

[Morch]

Palestinian security official shot for calling Hamas 'Iranian proxy'

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/sjfgjbbwt

 

So, he was bitching about Hamas, but the ones that shot him are Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

While Hamas is the larger outfit, PIJ are actually closer to Iran and more under their influence.

 

Maybe they got jealous....

 

 

Edited December 26, 2023 by Morch

[Bkk Brian]

27 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Everybody gets a free trip to the The Hague with accommodation paid?

The oracle speaking again?

[vinny41]

I24 News

Factual Reporting: MIXED

However, during the 2023 Israel-Hamas conflict, i24 has reported favorably on the Israeli government and their actions and negatively on Palestine, such as this: “One of the commanders told me they saw babies’ heads cut off. soldiers told me they believe 40 babies, children were killed.” To date, this claim has not been verified.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/i24-news/

[Danny Australia]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

LOL

 

Here we go again:

 

https://twitter.com/PalestineNW

 

18. Social media content is acceptable in most forums. However in factual areas such as but not limited to news, current affairs and health topics, social media cannot be used unless it is from a credible news media source or a government agency

 

 

I am sorry but you are the last person to preach about credible news media sources as almost all of your posts are from questionable sources or from obvious biased IDF propaganda machines.

 

Also, please let the moderators do their job and refrain from acting as one.

[Bkk Brian]

7 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

 

I am sorry but you are the last person to preach about credible news media sources as almost all of your posts are from questionable sources or from obvious biased IDF propaganda machines.

 

Also, please let the moderators do their job and refrain from acting as one.

No need to apologize to me, I know how wrong you are all the time, its par for the course

[Bkk Brian]

11 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

I24 News

Factual Reporting: MIXED

However, during the 2023 Israel-Hamas conflict, i24 has reported favorably on the Israeli government and their actions and negatively on Palestine, such as this: “One of the commanders told me they saw babies’ heads cut off. soldiers told me they believe 40 babies, children were killed.” To date, this claim has not been verified.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/i24-news/

Yes factual: They quoted USA today and guess what....lol

 

'We know they were raped in Hamas captivity': Chilling details of what hostages faced

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2023/12/20/hamas-sexual-violence-rape-hostages-oct-7/71917113007/

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes factual: They quoted USA today and guess what....lol

 

'We know they were raped in Hamas captivity': Chilling details of what hostages faced

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2023/12/20/hamas-sexual-violence-rape-hostages-oct-7/71917113007/

 

How many babies have 2,000 pound bombs blown to unidentifiable little bits?

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

How many babies have 2,000 pound bombs blown to unidentifiable little bits?

Tell me when you find out?

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Tell me when you find out?

 

7,000

 

edit: 10,000

 

Over 10,000 infants and children killed in Israel’s Gaza genocide, hundreds of whom are trapped beneath debris

 

https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6020/Over-10,000-infants-and-children-killed-in-Israel’s-Gaza-genocide,-hundreds-of-whom-are-trapped-beneath-debris

 

 

Edited December 26, 2023 by ozimoron

[Jingthing]

11 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

 

Ramy Abdul, confirmed Hamas supporter:

 

His post about Hamas on the 8th Oct:

 

"In this battle, Palestine presented its elite young men and women on the path to freedom and dignity.
Successive generations will remember you, and history will immortalize you as heroic knights who created for us pure glory, not stained with mud.
Remember their names well and teach the stories of their eternal heroism to your children and grandchildren."

 

https://twitter.com/RamAbdu/status/1711014615885185265

 

OMG!

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

7,000

 

edit: 10,000

 

Over 10,000 infants and children killed in Israel’s Gaza genocide, hundreds of whom are trapped beneath debris

 

https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6020/Over-10,000-infants-and-children-killed-in-Israel’s-Gaza-genocide,-hundreds-of-whom-are-trapped-beneath-debris

 

 

Oh dear

5 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

How many babies have 2,000 pound bombs blown to unidentifiable little bits?

 

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

7,000

Number pulled out of ...

?

[vinny41]

I24 News

Factual Reporting: MIXED

However, during the 2023 Israel-Hamas conflict, i24 has reported favorably on the Israeli government and their actions and negatively on Palestine, such as this: “One of the commanders told me they saw babies’ heads cut off. soldiers told me they believe 40 babies, children were killed.” To date, this claim has not been verified.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/i24-news/

 

Israel social security data reveals true picture of Oct 7 deaths

Social security figures

The identities and ages of civilian victims are available via Bituah Leumi, Israel's social security agency.

But it also invalidates some statements by Israeli authorities in the days following the attack.

In particular, a claim made on October 10 on the government's official X (formerly Twitter) account spoke of "40 babies murdered" at Kfar Aza kibbutz, based on a report by i24NEWS channel.

According to Bituah Leumi, 46 civilians were killed in Kfar Aza, the youngest 14 years old.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20231215-israel-social-security-data-reveals-true-picture-of-oct-7-deaths

[ozimoron]

Just now, Jingthing said:

Number pulled out of ...

?

 

a website.

 

https://euromedmonitor.org/ws_assets/logos/header/en_new.svg

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

7,000

 

edit: 10,000

 

Over 10,000 infants and children killed in Israel’s Gaza genocide, hundreds of whom are trapped beneath debris

 

https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6020/Over-10,000-infants-and-children-killed-in-Israel’s-Gaza-genocide,-hundreds-of-whom-are-trapped-beneath-debris

 

 

With Ramy Abdul the Hamas supporter as a chairman of euro-med and the other Chairman Richard Falk known for his 9/11 conspiracy theories 

[ozimoron]

Euro-Med Monitor sends UN rapporteurs, ICC Prosecutor primary report documenting dozens of field execution cases in Gaza

 

https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6058/Euro-Med-Monitor-sends-UN-rapporteurs,-ICC-Prosecutor-primary-report-documenting-dozens-of-field-execution-cases-in-Gaza

[ozimoron]

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

With Ramy Abdul the Hamas supporter as a chairman of euro-med and the other Chairman Richard Falk known for his 9/11 conspiracy theories 

 

linkless tripe

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

linkless tripe

Still link less tripe?

 

 

Richard Falk Chairman of Euro-Med Monitor's Board of Trustees

 

9/11 conspiracy theorist should leave U.N. job

https://www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/9-11-conspiracy-theorist-should-leave-U-N-job-3257919.php

[Bkk Brian]

7 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

I24 News

Factual Reporting: MIXED

However, during the 2023 Israel-Hamas conflict, i24 has reported favorably on the Israeli government and their actions and negatively on Palestine, such as this: “One of the commanders told me they saw babies’ heads cut off. soldiers told me they believe 40 babies, children were killed.” To date, this claim has not been verified.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/i24-news/

 

Israel social security data reveals true picture of Oct 7 deaths

Social security figures

The identities and ages of civilian victims are available via Bituah Leumi, Israel's social security agency.

But it also invalidates some statements by Israeli authorities in the days following the attack.

In particular, a claim made on October 10 on the government's official X (formerly Twitter) account spoke of "40 babies murdered" at Kfar Aza kibbutz, based on a report by i24NEWS channel.

According to Bituah Leumi, 46 civilians were killed in Kfar Aza, the youngest 14 years old.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20231215-israel-social-security-data-reveals-true-picture-of-oct-7-deaths

Hasn't this 40 babies thing already been dealt with in the first topic weeks ago..........yawn...................

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

a website.

 

https://euromedmonitor.org/ws_assets/logos/header/en_new.svg

Garbage source.

Also note I think 17 year olds are classed as children. Obviously teens are sometimes fighters. 

[ozimoron]

6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Still link less tripe?

 

 

Richard Falk Chairman of Euro-Med Monitor's Board of Trustees

 

9/11 conspiracy theorist should leave U.N. job

https://www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/9-11-conspiracy-theorist-should-leave-U-N-job-3257919.php

 

You were just complaining about non credible sources.

 

Richard Anderson Falk is Albert G. Milbank Professor Emeritus of International Law at Princeton University and research fellow, Orfalea Centre of Global and International Studies, University of California at Santa Barbara. Falk is a renowned international law and international relations scholar who completed a six-year term as UN Special Rapporteur on Human Rights in Occupied Palestine.

 

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

You were just complaining about non credible sources.

 

Richard Anderson Falk is Albert G. Milbank Professor Emeritus of International Law at Princeton University and research fellow, Orfalea Centre of Global and International Studies, University of California at Santa Barbara. Falk is a renowned international law and international relations scholar who completed a six-year term as UN Special Rapporteur on Human Rights in Occupied Palestine.

 

Are you feeling ok? You said it was tripe without a link, I provided one, here's another:

 

US calls for resignation of UN’s Richard Falk

The US representative to the Human Rights Council, Eileen Chamberlain Donahoe, called for the resignation of Richard Falk, the United Nations special rapporteur on Palestinian human rights.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-calls-for-resignation-of-uns-richard-falk/

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Are you feeling ok? You said it was tripe without a link, I provided one, here's another:

 

US calls for resignation of UN’s Richard Falk

The US representative to the Human Rights Council, Eileen Chamberlain Donahoe, called for the resignation of Richard Falk, the United Nations special rapporteur on Palestinian human rights.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-calls-for-resignation-of-uns-richard-falk/

 

The article didn't directly accuse Falk of saying that the 9/11 attacks were a false flag operation. He said that millions of Americans believed that. A sentiment that I believe to be true.

[Morch]

36 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

 

I am sorry but you are the last person to preach about credible news media sources as almost all of your posts are from questionable sources or from obvious biased IDF propaganda machines.

 

Also, please let the moderators do their job and refrain from acting as one.

 

Maybe you should get familiarized with forum rules before commenting.

It it legit to provide information from official government sources.

That you don't like it, think it biased, propaganda and so on does carry a whole lot of weight.

 

 

 

[Morch]

26 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

How many babies have 2,000 pound bombs blown to unidentifiable little bits?

 

 

@ozimoron

 

How many deflections can you post?

 

I actually asked how many casualties (total) were supposedly killed (never mind your exaggerated language) by such - got no response from you lot.

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

The article didn't directly accuse Falk of saying that the 9/11 attacks were a false flag operation. He said that millions of Americans believed that. A sentiment that I believe to be true.

lol 3rd link now

 

Richard Falk endorses 9/11 “inside job” theory, interviewed in his official UN capacity

https://unwatch.org/richard-falk-endorses-911-inside-job-theory-interviewed-in-his-official-un-capacity/