Israel and Hamas fight house-to-house battles across Gaza

[Bkk Brian]

4 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Reuters is just reporting that Israel has lost 21 soldiers today. They were apparently mining a house for demolition ( a war crime) when militants fired at a nearby tank, causing the mines to explode. There's a buddhist word to describe that.

You keep getting asked to read topics before you post, only 6 posts up on the same page. Please share how this is a war crime? In addition please share what what this "buddhist word to describe that" rather than hiding behind an innuendo?

 

14 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

The deadliest day so far for the IDF

 

Israeli military says 21 soldiers killed in Gaza

The Israeli army says 21 of its soldiers have been killed in Gaza - the deadliest day for Israeli forces since the start of their ground operation.

A spokesman for the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), Daniel Hagari, said it is thought a rocket-propelled grenade hit a tank near two buildings they were in.

He said the buildings exploded probably as result of mines that Israeli forces had placed there to demolish them.

The IDF says it is still investigating the details of the incident.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68065903

 

[Bkk Brian]

I guess they've got no pigeons so notes it has to be....lol

 

Hamas leaders reportedly communicating using handwritten notes carried by runners

Hamas leaders, hunkered down in subterranean bunkers in the Gaza Strip, are reportedly communicating with each other using handwritten notes carried around the war-torn territory by runners.

The memos are even enabling communication with senior officials abroad, the Saudi-owned Arabic daily Asharq Al-Awsat reported Tuesday.

The London-based outlet revealed aspects of the secret communications system used by the terror group’s chiefs to exchange messages without being detected by Israeli intelligence.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-leaders-reportedly-communicating-using-handwritten-notes-carried-by-runners

[JonnyF]

9 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Reuters is just reporting that Israel has lost 21 soldiers today. They were apparently mining a house for demolition ( a war crime) when militants fired at a nearby tank, causing the mines to explode. There's a buddhist word to describe that.

 

Low.

 

Even by your standards.

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

10 hours ago, rabas said:

 

No. mining a house by itself is not a war crime. And no there is not a Buddhist word for that. 

 

But maybe your post could be considered a forum discussion crime. A crime against forum?

It is a crime against humanity when it's collective punishment.

 

One suspects the word being looked for is "karma".

 

You apparently would like anyone that doesn't support israel to go away. Not going to happen. Around the world Palestinian supporter numbers are growing every day, massive demonstrations calling for a ceasefire.

 

Meanwhile, israel is slowly going broke with the cost of the conflict and it hasn't even kicked off properly in the north or the West Bank yet.

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/war-is-costing-economy-some-600m-a-week-due-to-work-absence-bank-of-israel/

The absence of thousands of workers from their jobs due to the ongoing war with the Hamas terror group has been costing the Israeli economy an estimated NIS 2.3 billion ($600 million) a week, or about 6 percent of the weekly GDP, according to a research report released by the Bank of Israel on Thursday.

[JonnyF]

7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You apparently would like anyone that doesn't support israel to go away. Not going to happen. Around the world Palestinian supporter numbers are growing every day, massive demonstrations calling for a ceasefire.

 

No surprise. Anti-semitism is the world's oldest hatred and is going nowhere.

 

7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

 

Meanwhile, israel is slowly going broke with the cost of the conflict and it hasn't even kicked off properly in the north or the West Bank yet.

 

Biden will continue funding it with American taxpayers money.

[Bkk Brian]

10 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It is a crime against humanity when it's collective punishment.

 

One suspects the word being looked for is "karma".

 

You apparently would like anyone that doesn't support israel to go away. Not going to happen. Around the world Palestinian supporter numbers are growing every day, massive demonstrations calling for a ceasefire.

 

Meanwhile, israel is slowly going broke with the cost of the conflict and it hasn't even kicked off properly in the north or the West Bank yet.

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/war-is-costing-economy-some-600m-a-week-due-to-work-absence-bank-of-israel/

The absence of thousands of workers from their jobs due to the ongoing war with the Hamas terror group has been costing the Israeli economy an estimated NIS 2.3 billion ($600 million) a week, or about 6 percent of the weekly GDP, according to a research report released by the Bank of Israel on Thursday.

Rubbish, mining a building with no one inside because it contains military infrastructure, weapons or tunnels underneath is not collective punishment. 

 

Oh news, war costs money, like nobody knew that. Sort of puts the ridiculous conspiracy that Israel wanted this to happen to bed then eh.

Edited January 24 by Bkk Brian

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, JonnyF said:

No surprise. Anti-semitism is the world's oldest hatred and is going nowhere.

I specifically DIDN'T say "anti israeli" protests, but seems even supporting Palestinians is now anti semitic according to some on here.

 

BTW, IMO the world's oldest hatred predates Judaism by many thousands of years- it is hatred ( fear ) of the other that is not of the tribe.

[Morch]

52 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It is a crime against humanity when it's collective punishment.

 

One suspects the word being looked for is "karma".

 

You apparently would like anyone that doesn't support israel to go away. Not going to happen. Around the world Palestinian supporter numbers are growing every day, massive demonstrations calling for a ceasefire.

 

Meanwhile, israel is slowly going broke with the cost of the conflict and it hasn't even kicked off properly in the north or the West Bank yet.

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/war-is-costing-economy-some-600m-a-week-due-to-work-absence-bank-of-israel/

The absence of thousands of workers from their jobs due to the ongoing war with the Hamas terror group has been costing the Israeli economy an estimated NIS 2.3 billion ($600 million) a week, or about 6 percent of the weekly GDP, according to a research report released by the Bank of Israel on Thursday.

 

@thaibeachlovers

 

How do you know that this was about 'collective punishment'?

 

Wars cost money, everyone knows that - except for you, apparently.

Care to review the economic effect this war had on the Palestinians? In both the Gaza Strip and the West Bank? On Jordan? Lebanon? Egypt? Etc....  Nah...you're just beating one drum.

 

Edited January 24 by Morch

[Morch]

40 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I specifically DIDN'T say "anti israeli" protests, but seems even supporting Palestinians is now anti semitic according to some on here.

 

BTW, IMO the world's oldest hatred predates Judaism by many thousands of years- it is hatred ( fear ) of the other that is not of the tribe.

 

@thaibeachlovers

 

Yet to see a 'pro-palestinian' protest which does not heavily display anti-Israel elements.

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, Morch said:

 

@thaibeachlovers

 

Yet to see a 'pro-palestinian' protest which does not heavily display anti-Israel elements.

Agreed. 

At the very least and it's usually much more toxic River to the Sea type stuff, they are clearly calling for Israel specifically to stop fighting and making zero demands on Hamas.

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Agreed. 

At the very least and it's usually much more toxic River to the Sea type stuff, they are clearly calling for Israel specifically to stop fighting and making zero demands on Hamas.

"Those who chant 'from the river to the sea' are either useful idiots who do not understand what they are saying or worse, people who wish to wipe the Jewish state from the map."

 

 

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

"Those who chant 'from the river to the sea' are either useful idiots who do not understand what they are saying or worse, people who wish to wipe the Jewish state from the map."

 

 

Yeah, charitably speaking probably the majority are just STUPID (they learned all they know if anything from Tik Tok) and following the fashion but as it gives aid and comfort to terrorists, Iran, etc. it is still not harmless.

[metisdead]

Off topic deflection posts and the replies contravening our Community Standards have been removed.

[Neeranam]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It is a crime against humanity when it's collective punishment.

 

One suspects the word being looked for is "karma".

 

You apparently would like anyone that doesn't support israel to go away. Not going to happen. Around the world Palestinian supporter numbers are growing every day, massive demonstrations calling for a ceasefire.

 

Meanwhile, israel is slowly going broke with the cost of the conflict and it hasn't even kicked off properly in the north or the West Bank yet.

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/war-is-costing-economy-some-600m-a-week-due-to-work-absence-bank-of-israel/

The absence of thousands of workers from their jobs due to the ongoing war with the Hamas terror group has been costing the Israeli economy an estimated NIS 2.3 billion ($600 million) a week, or about 6 percent of the weekly GDP, according to a research report released by the Bank of Israel on Thursday.

The latest attrocity I just saw. 

How many more are not captured on camera? 

 

https://www.itv.com/news/2024-01-23/moment-civilian-brandishing-white-flag-in-gaza-safe-zone-is-shot-dead?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1706049652-1

 

[Bkk Brian]

‘We are deepening our holding in Khan Yunis, we encircled it, and objectives achieved in Khan Yunis can be a good leverage to some kind of a deal’ Lt. Col. (Res.) Doron Avital (@da64) analyzes the IDF's progress in Gaza in relation to efforts for a hostage deal

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

13 hours ago, Neeranam said:

The latest attrocity I just saw. 

How many more are not captured on camera? 

 

https://www.itv.com/news/2024-01-23/moment-civilian-brandishing-white-flag-in-gaza-safe-zone-is-shot-dead?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1706049652-1

 

I've watched so many videos circulating of fake scenes set up for propaganda purposes via unverified X accounts that then make there way onto Pro Hamas accounts, some done well, some very badly. Not saying this is one of them however but it needs more investigation. Just because its an English TV channel, the cameraman is a local Palestinian and we know the affiliation of so many so called Palestinian press in Gaza.

 

IDF slams UK network after claim unarmed Gazan was shot dead shortly after interview

The IDF slams a British broadcaster over a report claiming an unarmed Palestinian raising his hands in the air along with several others, including one waving a white flag, was shot dead by IDF troops in Khan Younis,

The military says the footage was edited and blasts ITV News for serving as an arm of Hamas’s propaganda effort.

The footage shows 51-year-old Ramzi Abu Sahloul being interviewed, explaining that he and the four men with him were ordered by the IDF to evacuate a building that was to be targeted by the army. Abu Sahloul says that they were trying to return to the area in order to reach his mother and brother who hadn’t managed to evacuate in time.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-slams-uk-network-after-claim-unarmed-gazan-was-shot-dead-shortly-after-interview/

 

Edited January 24 by Bkk Brian

[Jeff the Chef]

Got to love the BBC

 

The Israeli army says 24 of its soldiers were killed in Gaza on Monday - the deadliest day for its forces since their ground operation began.

That includes 21 reservists who died in an explosion likely caused by mines that Israeli forces had placed in two buildings to demolish them, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68065903

[Bkk Brian]

IDF Spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari says ground troops have killed more than 100 Hamas operatives in the west Khan Younis area today, during intensive battles.

[Bkk Brian]

9 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Got to love the BBC

 

The Israeli army says 24 of its soldiers were killed in Gaza on Monday - the deadliest day for its forces since their ground operation began.

That includes 21 reservists who died in an explosion likely caused by mines that Israeli forces had placed in two buildings to demolish them, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68065903

Gotta love posters who don't read the topic, this was posted here when it came out 2 days ago:

 

[Jeff the Chef]

A group of men in Gaza, holding a white flag, told ITV News they wanted to rescue their family members - minutes later one was shot dead as John Irvine reports

 

https://www.itv.com/news/2024-01-23/moment-civilian-brandishing-white-flag-in-gaza-safe-zone-is-shot-dead

[Bkk Brian]

34 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

A group of men in Gaza, holding a white flag, told ITV News they wanted to rescue their family members - minutes later one was shot dead as John Irvine reports

 

https://www.itv.com/news/2024-01-23/moment-civilian-brandishing-white-flag-in-gaza-safe-zone-is-shot-dead

You are trolling now. Or deliberately not reading what's already been posted and responded to

[Jeff the Chef]

17 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

You are trolling now. Or deliberately not reading what's already been posted and responded to

 

Really, and when do I have to ask your permission to post whatever I want as long as it is to do with the War in Israel? You go troll away from me, thanking you in advance.

[Bkk Brian]

23 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Really, and when do I have to ask your permission to post whatever I want as long as it is to do with the War in Israel? You go troll away from me, thanking you in advance.

Where did I say you've got to ask my permission?

[Bkk Brian]

IDF says dozens of Hamas gunmen killed in Khan Younis fighting

The military publishes footage that it says shows an attack helicopter striking a building and killing gunmen who had opened fire on reservists of the Yiftah Brigade in central Gaza.

 

 

[Morch]

US sets up channel with Israel to discuss reports of civilian casualties in Gaza

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-operating-channel-with-israel-to-discuss-reports-of-civilian-casualties-in-gaza/

 

Before some of you get excited, pay attention to details - this is not a reaction to the ICJ provisional ruling, but something which was actually set up earlier this month, during or after Blinken's visit to Israel.

[ozimoron]

6 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I'm surprised the Israelis are allowed to bomb civilians in a foreign land on a Saturday. My Rabbi friend can't even drive his car to the next province. 

 

One of their top religious leaders said that anything goes in a war against Palestinians.

 

Karim was embroiled in controversy in 2012 for his response to a question posed to him (Hebrew link) on the religious website Kipa, asking in the light of certain biblical passages if IDF soldiers, for example, were permitted to commit rape during wartime despite the general understanding that such an act is widely considered repugnant.

 

In his response, Karim implied that such practices, among several others that were normally prohibited — including the consumption of nonkosher food — were permitted during battle.

Sheba ongoing fightKeep Watching

 

“Although intercourse with a female gentile is very grave, it was permitted during wartime (under the conditions it stipulated) out of consideration for the soldiers’ difficulties,” he wrote.

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-taps-chief-rabbi-who-once-seemed-to-permit-wartime-rape/

Edited January 27 by ozimoron

[Morch]

33 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I'm surprised the Israelis are allowed to bomb civilians in a foreign land on a Saturday. My Rabbi friend can't even drive his car to the next province. 

 

I'm surprised that you do not know that in Judaism there's a provision for doing things normally forbidden on s Saturday under certain circumstances. War time, emergencies etc. would qualify. Rabbits driving to other provinces would not.

[Morch]

32 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

One of their top religious leaders said that anything goes in a war against Palestinians.

 

Karim was embroiled in controversy in 2012 for his response to a question posed to him (Hebrew link) on the religious website Kipa, asking in the light of certain biblical passages if IDF soldiers, for example, were permitted to commit rape during wartime despite the general understanding that such an act is widely considered repugnant.

 

In his response, Karim implied that such practices, among several others that were normally prohibited — including the consumption of nonkosher food — were permitted during battle.

Sheba ongoing fightKeep Watching

 

“Although intercourse with a female gentile is very grave, it was permitted during wartime (under the conditions it stipulated) out of consideration for the soldiers’ difficulties,” he wrote.

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-taps-chief-rabbi-who-once-seemed-to-permit-wartime-rape/

 

@ozimoron

 

Yay....you found another tidbit from only 8 years ago...well done.

This, of course have nothing to with the baiting question asked, but hey.....guess you just had to.

 

 

[Neeranam]

3 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

I'm surprised that you do not know that in Judaism there's a provision for doing things normally forbidden on s Saturday under certain circumstances. War time, emergencies etc. would qualify. Rabbits driving to other provinces would not.

Rabbits?

[thaibeachlovers]

10 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Rabbits?

I wonder if there is a provision in Judaism for blowing kids to bits because they live in Gaza? The commandment "thou shalt not kill" is pretty unambiguous.