500 baht fine, next!

There were 3 mass shootings in USA during the last month, keep things in perspective.  

3 hours ago, webfact said:

couldn't tolerate the noisy gatherings of his Thai wife's friends and the Canadian neighbor

Noise can get in some alcoholics nerves (especially if something piled up during time)and) if they have criminal background (even though not mentioned here) it will pop someday in terrible way.  The best is not giving a reason to this type. 

5 minutes ago, NickyLouie said:

There were 3 mass shootings in USA during the last month, keep things in perspective.  

Absoultely, the Thai bashers here are ridiculous.

There really is no comparison between alcohol crimes in Thailand and the US/UK etc.

43 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

No, Caucasians and Indians don't have this gene variant, Thais and Japanese people do.

Don’t think it’s a gene .. but basically the individual. Some individuals are just brought up differently n violently. Sad but upbringing is still the cause. 

Another case of small willy syndrome at play.

 

the noodle seller probably hasnt had a jump for years and could hear the canadian and his Thai wife on the job every night..

 

jealousy here can get you killed! I should know, many thais have been jealous of me and my lot in the past. They can snap at a moments notice. Be warned

3 hours ago, stoner said:

fragile ego's know no bounds. 

The old red mist rises and blindness ensues.

1 hour ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

More great news for the Chinese tourists - NOT.  Are the Thailand authorities 'listening' - this is just one of the many many things that Thailand needs to address STRONGLY. Trial and execution within 2-3 months - that is about the only thing that will stop others doing the same thing when they get angry.  Drunks killing people, military/police nutters killing people/babies, boats killing people, women being raped and killed, people being killed in Malls, etc etc etc. All the positive PR and Rhetoric in the world is not going to work (anymore). Yes it happens elsewhere too - but not every day - day after day after day. Media story today about 7 Police arrested for corruption and another charged with rape. On and on and on it goes. And it is more and more impossible to 'cover it up' and just keep smiling.  The problems Thailand has are all post-covid - all the other local countries (except Myanmar) are going better - economically and socially. Yes economic growth and properity will solve a lot of the problems - but it is not coming quick enough - a lot of Thais are seriously struggling. 

 

I have my doubts that fear of punishment will have much deterrent effect with homicidal drunks.

I may be wrong but I don't think such people do a risk/reward or cost/benefit analysis before committing a murder.

Does a guy like this noodle shop owner say to himself "I have a very strong urge to stab these two. But let me think, what will be the consequences for me if I give in to that urge?".

 

I don't think execution is too severe a punishment, but I don't think it will act as a deterrent for other killers.

2 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

It amaze me every time, that it seems like Thai people can suddenly just go kill,

It amazes me every time a news thread like this on this forum there are those that forget the facts about the rest of the world and go on a “Thai people” rant. 

22 minutes ago, NickyLouie said:

There were 3 mass shootings in USA during the last month, keep things in perspective.  

 

There is only one problem with your analogy.

 

The vast majority of the planet does not live in USA.

 

They don't care about YOUR mass shootings, Biden, Trump, criminal healthcare and left/right nonsense.

 

 

1 hour ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Trial and execution within 2-3 months - that is about the only thing that will stop others doing the same thing when they get angry. 

 

I don't think anyone anywhere weighs up the possible punishment before they kill or injure someone.

2 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

I don't think anyone anywhere weighs up the possible punishment before they kill or injure someone.

In Thailand, I always thought it was .......

1. prison isn't any worse than their existing life or

2. they don't think the police will bother catching them or

3. the sentence will be trivial, pretend to be a monk for a week, etc.

31 minutes ago, Frankie baby said:

Two people dead over nothing. Hope justice prevails. RIP

 

Again. And again. And again. It's their culture, but mostly they just kill themselves. Sometimes though 'guests' to the country get caught in the crossfire. It was like this a couple of hundred years ago in the American wild west, wasn't it, people being killed over nothing? Thailand culture is still living those times. Maybe the USA wasn't the best comparison though, because the killing there continues unabated.

14 minutes ago, novacova said:

It amazes me every time a news thread like this on this forum there are those that forget the facts about the rest of the world and go on a “Thai people” rant. 

 

That might be because this is a forum about Thailand and what happens in Thailand. Perhaps you are not able to understand something as simple as that, which is quite an achievement. At the same time, I don't see anywhere that anyone has said this only happens in Thailand. Something else you seem to not understand.

23 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

 

I have my doubts that fear of punishment will have much deterrent effect with homicidal drunks.

I may be wrong but I don't think such people do a risk/reward or cost/benefit analysis before committing a murder.

Does a guy like this noodle shop owner say to himself "I have a very strong urge to stab these two. But let me think, what will be the consequences for me if I give in to that urge?".

 

I don't think execution is too severe a punishment, but I don't think it will act as a deterrent for other killers.

Of course execution is not too severe. 2 people dead here. The murderer should be dead already!

21 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

 

 

I don't think anyone anywhere weighs up the possible punishment before they kill or injure someone.

especially in presumably non pre meditated killings like this,  They simply just lose it,   its the adult version of a temper tantrum, no concept of the consequences whatsoever 

Unless I read it wrong, the Thai female neighbour was stabbed/ wounded multiple times. My countryman once in the heart. This is obviously, only in my opinion ,a crime of passion / jealous rage from unrequited love. 

  I've spent many enjoyable months in Khon Kaen even in the small villages. The people are very accommodating and gracious. This sad story could happen anywhere on the planet. 

49 minutes ago, NickyLouie said:

There were 3 mass shootings in USA during the last month, keep things in perspective.  

How many jealous husband or bf killings in Thailand vs USA. Keep the perspective on point.

2 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

especially in presumably non pre meditated killings like this,  They simply just lose it,   its the adult version of a temper tantrum, no concept of the consequences whatsoever 

I think it was pre-meditated. He went armed with a knife,

It is murder and the death penalty should be enforced.

1 hour ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

More great news for the Chinese tourists - NOT.  Are the Thailand authorities 'listening' - this is just one of the many many things that Thailand needs to address STRONGLY. Trial and execution within 2-3 months - that is about the only thing that will stop others doing the same thing when they get angry.  Drunks killing people, military/police nutters killing people/babies, boats killing people, women being raped and killed, people being killed in Malls, etc etc etc. All the positive PR and Rhetoric in the world is not going to work (anymore). Yes it happens elsewhere too - but not every day - day after day after day. Media story today about 7 Police arrested for corruption and another charged with rape. On and on and on it goes. And it is more and more impossible to 'cover it up' and just keep smiling.  The problems Thailand has are all post-covid - all the other local countries (except Myanmar) are going better - economically and socially. Yes economic growth and properity will solve a lot of the problems - but it is not coming quick enough - a lot of Thais are seriously struggling. 

a little money to smooth things over and all will be well again. Relax ok. This is still the same Thailand it was years ago. Just more of it is in the news now.. Eventually Thailand will put an end to Facebook and livestream media without censorship and then all will be well again even more so. 

I do agree with one OP that a Thai person doing something bad is downplayed whereas the foreigner doing the same is exaggerated. 

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Same with any race

This was found in a Australian study. 

1 hour ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Thats why you not move to the sticks, there is a lot of animals

 

Stupid comment of the day.

A housing village in Pattaya is safe then, not in the sticks?

How many foreigners have been killed in hot spot areas?

Done to death with a machete, baseball bat, iron rod...

I live in the sticks with the family and NOT in a housing village cramped with strangers.

Zero tensions with the neighbors.

 

1 hour ago, crazykopite said:

It’s only 2023 not 2024 RIP to the deceased this is a big problem in Thailand with Thai men being very violent when they have consumed alcohol no doubt the cheap Thai whiskey is to be blamed for his actions  problem is in 5 years time the murderer will be released from prison as taking a life is meaningless in Thailand 

 

Nonsense!!! Just READ THE NEWS of almost any country and you will find that this problem occurs in ALL countries where drinking alcohol is allowed.
 

1 hour ago, soalbundy said:

I stay away from Thais once they start drinking, even if they are good neighbours

I give people a bit more slack than just starting to drink alcohol. Nothing wrong with a beer or glass of wine. But, I do stay away from ANYBODY, not just Thais, once they've had 2 drinks and go on to a third. No need to drink more. Two drinks and on to a third is enough to have them on their way. Drunk people are useless or worse, why stick around?

I've never heard of a human being getting drunk, getting into an argument and then killing someone. Must be a first. 

1 hour ago, Celsius said:

 

That's right. It's an excuse. Drinking, rooting, yaba, microsleep, cheating.... all just an excuse to release the anger at how truly garbage their country is.

Look beneath the obvious signs we see every day and look for the true reasons. First and foremost is the lack of a meaningful education. The kids are like alarm clocks, every night they are told what to do and every morning they do what they are told. Then all of a sudden they are let out into the world and no one to tell them what to do. And why? Because the people who have control, want it that way. The consequences of those actions are just collateral damage. Will it ever change? Who knows, but it will be a long time coming.  

That should give Thai tourism a well needed boost  ! 

Extremely thin skinned individuals ! 

Keep a nice piece of Bamboo in the car just incase it's needed.

9 minutes ago, Maxwell Book said:

I've never heard of a human being getting drunk, getting into an argument and then killing someone. Must be a first. 

Not in Thailand it isn't. If you have not heard of such things before have you been in a coma?

2 hours ago, soalbundy said:

I believe that there is a genetic trait in some Asians that prevents the breakdown of alcohol, a gene variant which generates a non functional enzyme. I stay away from Thais once they start drinking, even if they are good neighbours, as far as I know nothing has happened due to alcohol in my village but why take the risk.

Not restricted to asians old mate. Stay well clear of a group of Scots on the turps.