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[metisdead]

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[BenStark]

3 hours ago, BestB said:

Maybe because it does not get as many clicks but plenty of stories on this forum of soi dog attacks and just as many idiots advocating killing alll

 

Nice try to deflect, but no cigar for you.

 

We are not talking about people getting bitten by soi or other dogs, we are talking about people getting killed by dogs

[sambum]

3 hours ago, brianthainess said:

Nah just a funny 'ol mut with a fox like tail, who must always for some reason have something in his mouth, normally a dead leaf, or anything made of plastic, sometimes he brings me toys from the kids up the road  one time a Spiderman mask, he is the funniest dog I have ever known, he will run and retrieve anything bring it to you, but will never let go , you can pretend to chase him and he'll just run around the trees, will always trot in front of the car if I go out till the end of our small soi. just had his nuts removed, they had to dart him first, no way would he ever go on a lead or get up in a car. Would post a pic but his off with his mate up the road playing. 

Thanks for the specific answer - the question was a bit tongue in cheek!

I can't imagine a Pit Bull fittingt the description of your dog's antics!

 

[Tanlic]

9 hours ago, Woof999 said:

 

The only relocation these 2 dogs needs is to a shallow grave.

You will of course have the halfwit owners that believe their dog would never do that.......maybe not to him her but to a stranger the risk is too much to let anyone own them as pets.

 

The choices in my opinion are cage them like you would a tiger or make soup out of them..They are not pets they are killers as are a few other breeds but that's for another day.

[advancebooking]

8 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

And as for the soi dogs, the real solution is massive, nationwide culling. These are mangy creatures, leading desperate lives.

WTF. And your the guy who wrote this year you think its good that Thailand is now a narco capital of the world with weed being sold on street corners across thailand. I remember you writing this. 

 

I think your opinions, in general, are uneducated rhetoric at the best of times. 

[sambum]

24 minutes ago, advancebooking said:

WTF. And your the guy who wrote this year you think its good that Thailand is now a narco capital of the world with weed being sold on street corners across thailand. I remember you writing this. 

 

I think your opinions, in general, are uneducated rhetoric at the best of times. 

 

I think it comes from possibly being brought up in a country where all dogs have to be  kept under control by their owners at all times, and have the necessary vaccinations against rabies etc. Any strays are rounded up and taken to the nearest animal sanctuary where if they are not claimed in a certain length of time , the dog is put up for adoption, and if not adopted in a certain length of time, euthanised. Consequently, no rabies, relatively few dog attacks and NO SOI DOGS!!! Oh, and by the way, Pit Bulls are illegal!!!

Edited December 22, 2023 by sambum

[Vadis]

It's very interesting how so many ppl are saying to kill the dog and lock up the owner without fully knowing all of the circumstances of this situation. This breed has three types: 1) the straight pitbull terrier, 2) the Staffordshire bull terrier, and 3 ) the mixed breed. Which one is in this story?

 

The straight pitbull is a more animal-aggressive dog. The Staffie is a more person-aggressive dog. And the mix is just that, a blend of both. The Staffie and the pit look alike because they are both of the terrier breed, but they are really pretty different. 

 

In the States, pit bulls are used mostly as hunting dogs to capture hogs (do an online search for ' hog hunting with pit bulls'). These hunting dogs killed no owners in those situations and are well cared for. Granted, this terrier breed is special, but it does have a place. So, if we are going to kill all of this breed, we should at least have a better understanding of its personality. And should we also kill all the hog-hunting pitbulls too?

 

A lot boils down to the owner, though, as with any animal. consider the following search term ( pitbull protects family ), and again, a lot depends on the treatment of the animal, whether dog, horse, elephant, or big cat. In certain situations, this dog, when cared for properly and trained, is your very best friend. Your wife, your children, and all of your property are safe with this properly cared for, loved, and adequately trained dog in your home when you are away. They are not all bad. 

 

Just sharing a more balanced understanding of this breed.  

[GroveHillWanderer]

5 hours ago, billd766 said:

Then get the World Animal Protection organisation to take in and take care at their own expense every single stray dog world wide at their own expense to feed, look after and care for every stray dog.

 

What will they do, for example, with the hundreds or thousands of tons of dog <deleted> every day, without spoiling the land and water supplies around them?

Did you even brother looking at their website?

[sambum]

1 hour ago, Vadis said:

It's very interesting how so many ppl are saying to kill the dog and lock up the owner without fully knowing all of the circumstances of this situation. This breed has three types: 1) the straight pitbull terrier, 2) the Staffordshire bull terrier, and 3 ) the mixed breed. Which one is in this story?

 

The straight pitbull is a more animal-aggressive dog. The Staffie is a more person-aggressive dog. And the mix is just that, a blend of both. The Staffie and the pit look alike because they are both of the terrier breed, but they are really pretty different. 

 

In the States, pit bulls are used mostly as hunting dogs to capture hogs (do an online search for ' hog hunting with pit bulls'). These hunting dogs killed no owners in those situations and are well cared for. Granted, this terrier breed is special, but it does have a place. So, if we are going to kill all of this breed, we should at least have a better understanding of its personality. And should we also kill all the hog-hunting pitbulls too?

 

A lot boils down to the owner, though, as with any animal. consider the following search term ( pitbull protects family ), and again, a lot depends on the treatment of the animal, whether dog, horse, elephant, or big cat. In certain situations, this dog, when cared for properly and trained, is your very best friend. Your wife, your children, and all of your property are safe with this properly cared for, loved, and adequately trained dog in your home when you are away. They are not all bad. 

 

Just sharing a more balanced understanding of this breed.  

 

From my earlier post:- "Giant, aged 2, the Pit Bull breed or Ban Dog that savaged its owner to death last week has been taken to his funeral in Pattaya.

He took part in a ceremony called "khor khama" in which he apologized to the corpse." 

 

Apparently, the dog was sharing the owner's bed when it suddenly attacked and killed him, so obviously it wasn't being badly mistreated. So your statement doesn't wash with me, I'm afraid:- "In certain situations, this dog, when cared for properly and trained, is your very best friend. Your wife, your children, and all of your property are safe with this properly cared for, loved, and adequately trained dog....."

 

It doesn't matter how well cared for and well trained these dogs are it all boils down to the fact that they are UNPREDICTABLE and can quickly turn on even their own "families" for no apparent reason. This trait is in the genes of each and every one of them, so every one of them is essentially capable of fatally attacking people and other animals. Such an animal should never be allowed to be a "pet".

 

[kiwikeith]

12 hours ago, Woof999 said:

 

The only relocation these 2 dogs needs is to a shallow grave.

Exactly, ban them,and destroy the rest. 

[Monolith]

11 hours ago, austhai said:

All these people blaming the breed, wanting them killed. Its not a breed issue, its a poor upbringing and taught animal from the owner. The owner is the only issue here. Teach any strong animal to be aggressive & they can kill. Same as kids growing up wrong & end up <deleted>. 

BS - it's the breed(s). They've been bred for killing, some/most might be lovely until.... and everyone is in shock...another pitbull mauling/killing. Another week. FFS.

[Martin71]

If pit bulls are such lovable softies and great with kids etc.. then why are they banned in so many countries... it cant be because of their ability to cause catastrophic and often fatal injuries in a short space of time...  the experts must all be wrong..

[josephbloggs]

56 minutes ago, sambum said:

 

From my earlier post:- "Giant, aged 2, the Pit Bull breed or Ban Dog that savaged its owner to death last week has been taken to his funeral in Pattaya.

He took part in a ceremony called "khor khama" in which he apologized to the corpse." 

 

Apparently, the dog was sharing the owner's bed when it suddenly attacked and killed him, so obviously it wasn't being badly mistreated. So your statement doesn't wash with me, I'm afraid:- "In certain situations, this dog, when cared for properly and trained, is your very best friend. Your wife, your children, and all of your property are safe with this properly cared for, loved, and adequately trained dog....."

 

It doesn't matter how well cared for and well trained these dogs are it all boils down to the fact that they are UNPREDICTABLE and can quickly turn on even their own "families" for no apparent reason. This trait is in the genes of each and every one of them, so every one of them is essentially capable of fatally attacking people and other animals. Such an animal should never be allowed to be a "pet".

 

Agree, and they should never be left alone around children (although owners do and post pictures of look how cute my pittie is lying with my toddler). Irresponsible nutcases should not be allowed to be parents. Even a "normal" dog should not be left alone around small children - any dog can attack for any reason, but at least a sausage dog isn't going to do too much harm.

I have always had (small) dogs, but they were never ever left alone with my kids when they were babies.

 

 

[retayl]

11 hours ago, BestB said:

Without a fail any news and a chorus of idiots out blaming the dogs. They are dogs, strong and powerful dogs who were raised by a human.

 

only one to blame is the owner.

 

i have 2 pitbulls, big loving teddy bears but they hate badly dressed men, rubbish collectors and anyone else who looks “dirty”

 

As such I always make sure they can not get to any people, over 10 years and not once they got out 

 

it is extremely tragic and horrendous to have seen the attack because their power is insane but again, dogs were raised by a human who failed to provide safety for others and have no control over dogs. 
 

where I live, all neighbors are scared of my dogs but at the same time love them because once I moved in all theft and robberies have stopped.

 

dogs know all the neighbors but make noise when a stranger comes around. Theft and break ins are  0 for years

Apologists like you are the problem. I don’t care if it’s 20 years, your beasts only need to get out once and someone dies - you’re content to live with that? There is no reason for these dogs to exist they serve no positive purpose to humanity other than to feed the ego of pathetic losers.

[smew]

just about a month or so ago, police saved two pitt bull puppies(ugly as hell),,,, so now they have grown and already killed some one..

control of soi dogs ..I see, another project never to materialize..

 

who need these dogs??>>people who have no self esteem and want to prove something to everyone...?? 

 

chemical castration and in few years no more pitt bulls..   

[harrycallahan]

11 hours ago, Jing Joe said:

yup.     Do some research and be surprised as I was. Cats are very sensitive. A regular large black feral cat visitor here didnt return. Way over-dosed it with  500mg.  But note:- dogs bodyweight is relative.  Pit Bulls? do the sums and "kill or get killed."

Quote> "

What happens if a dog has 1 paracetamol?  (500mg)

A dose as small as 150mg of paracetamol per kg of body weight is considered lethal in dogs. However, any dose larger than 75mg per kg of body weight is considered toxic to dogs and will likely cause serious illness, including damage to your pooch's liver and kidneys.

 

IBUBRUFEN?  Can be deadly too. Research it.

 

I hope you get poisoned to death. I'm sure it's acceptable for me to post that because here you are making multiple posts promoting illegal and painful animal poisoning in an urban setting where people's pets will be susceptible. 

[Jing Joe]

2 hours ago, harrycallahan said:

 

I hope you get poisoned to death. I'm sure it's acceptable for me to post that because here you are making multiple posts promoting illegal and painful animal poisoning in an urban setting where people's pets will be susceptible. 

Quote:- "love me love my dog" seems worthy, but ooooh nooo, not when it comes to "unpredictable" (thanks Sambum) PitBulls and other dangerous breeds, the majority of posts in this small corner of the world are saying eliminate them, but from world wide (quoted) statistics many Governments are increasingly banning them.  Laws in civilized countries prohibit dogs and even cats! roaming outside their properties and dogs are only allowed on leash outside, unless in designated areas, and fines apply for uncollected poops.

Your accusation of "Illegal and painful poisoning"?   This very topic started from the painful killing of a Pit Bull's owner so do you hope more owners?, families? anyone? or other pets "get illegally and painfully poisoned mauled to death"?    Sambums picture of such a sweet innocent muzzled P.B. at the funeral says it all.

Re "peoples pets being susceptable", sadly "push has now come to shove".

Without an illegal gun to illegally "kill or get killed" by a P.B., it seems  the law of the jungle is needed in the L.O.S.,  and most posts seem to intimate keep your pests pets in your own yard.      Know this one?:- "How many more deaths will it take?" so thanks for your death wish, but I wouldnt wish you to be a P.B. victim.

Edited December 23, 2023 by Jing Joe
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[Handyman1]

All dogs can be made aggressive by their treatment,but pit bulls have a very powerful jaws compared to most other dog breeds so do so much more damage. BLAME the OWNER FOR NOT RIGHT education and TREATMENT. There are many pit bulls in NZ and rarely hear of trouble with them. Although when you do hear about them it is bad and it due to their education and big and powerful jaws.

[Lopburikid]

20 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

This and other aggressive breeds of dogs should be banned. Tine for things to change, and the police to go shot off all the killing machines. Owned or not owned, they shall all have a shot i the head.

Agree, these dogs if not all dogs should be on a lead/leash when not behind a closed gate. But you never know what the owner does to them or how the owner treats them. My dog is as passive as you can get, never barks or gets aggressive towards anyone, except ONE guy on a motorbike and she barks at him like she hates him. So something has happened between them in the past, and dogs never forget. Terrible way for the man to die and the dogs should now be destroyed and the owner charged with manslaughter.

 

 

[sambum]

2 hours ago, Jing Joe said:

Quote:- "love me love my dog" seems worthy, but ooooh nooo, not when it comes to "unpredictable" (thanks Sambum) PitBulls and other dangerous breeds, the majority of posts in this small corner of the world are saying eliminate them, but from world wide (quoted) statistics many Governments are increasingly banning them.  Laws in civilized countries prohibit dogs and even cats! roaming outside their properties and dogs are only allowed on leash outside, unless in designated areas, and fines apply for uncollected poops.

Your accusation of "Illegal and painful poisoning"?   This very topic started from the painful killing of a Pit Bull's owner so do you hope more owners?, families? anyone? or other pets "get illegally and painfully poisoned mauled to death"?    Sambums picture of such a sweet innocent muzzled P.B. at the funeral says it all.

Re "peoples pets being susceptable", sadly "push has now come to shove".

Without an illegal gun to illegally "kill or get killed" by a P.B., it seems  the law of the jungle is needed in the L.O.S.,  and most posts seem to intimate keep your pests pets in your own yard.      Know this one?:- "How many more deaths will it take?" so thanks for your death wish, but I wouldnt wish you to be a P.B. victim.

 

Thanks Joe! One of the reasons for posting the pic of the Pit Bull at the funeral was to illustrate just how crazy things can be in this country - how on earth can you justify taking a dog to a temple to "say sorry" to its owner that it has killed? With this mentality in mind, and the Buddhist "all life is sacred" mantra, I fear that this problem will persist until someone in Government has the balls to agree with many other countries and ban them outright - and also ENFORCE all dog owners to have their dogs licensed, and if the owners can not be traced, or deny ownership of the dog, that animal (through no fault of its own I might add) is essentially homeless, a stray, or as they call them here "soi dogs". These dogs, that are also a nuisance and sometimes a danger to people should be rounded up, put up for adoption, and failing any offers of a home, euthanised. This may sound callous or inhumane, but IMHO the end result would justify the means.

Unfortunately - once again, IMHO, this is not going to happen as it would cost money to implement such a scheme, and this country is more intent on securing tourist dollars than looking after the welfare of people. 

[brianthainess]

12 hours ago, sambum said:

Thanks for the specific answer - the question was a bit tongue in cheek!

I can't imagine a Pit Bull fittingt the description of your dog's antics!

 

I realized that, he seems to be related to a very rare, if not extinct "singing dog'' going by a google search. Anyway here He is with the preverbal dead leaf, waiting for his breakfast.

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And here is a photo of the "singing dog"

[Stargeezr]

This Is Thailand, but When a dog kills, it should also be put to death. Relocating these dogs will not change their attitudes.

  IMO

[superal]

21 minutes ago, sambum said:

 

Thanks Joe! One of the reasons for posting the pic of the Pit Bull at the funeral was to illustrate just how crazy things can be in this country - how on earth can you justify taking a dog to a temple to "say sorry" to its owner that it has killed? With this mentality in mind, and the Buddhist "all life is sacred" mantra, I fear that this problem will persist until someone in Government has the balls to agree with many other countries and ban them outright - and also ENFORCE all dog owners to have their dogs licensed, and if the owners can not be traced, or deny ownership of the dog, that animal (through no fault of its own I might add) is essentially homeless, a stray, or as they call them here "soi dogs". These dogs, that are also a nuisance and sometimes a danger to people should be rounded up, put up for adoption, and failing any offers of a home, euthanised. This may sound callous or inhumane, but IMHO the end result would justify the means.

Unfortunately - once again, IMHO, this is not going to happen as it would cost money to implement such a scheme, and this country is more intent on securing tourist dollars than looking after the welfare of people. 

Totally agree with your opinions and others similar to yours . You hit the nail on the head when stating                                  "  Buddhist "all life is sacred" mantra, " and for that reason , things will stay the same unless there is Thai government intervention and a new law , to protect people from soi dogs , is invoked . Why do people want to own any aggressive breed of dog ?, to look tough ? and as for the owners who say good owners who train their dogs do not get problems , well they are living in cuckoo land . It is in a dogs D.N.A. to attack / fight , some breeds to a lesser extent . Never the less , what cannot be done is to remove the potential natural ability that the dog can attack and even kill not only strangers but its owner too . As for dog owners who leave their young children with family pet dogs , unsupervised by a responsible adult , they should be reprimanded and banned from keeping dogs . It is bad parenting and neglect .

Anyway , what happened to the Thai dog catcher with his pickup cage rammed with mange soi dogs ?

[DJ54]

I had a pit Bull years ago…. never had any incidents.. he was aggressive and the yard was fenced and always on leash outside the yard…  unfortunately some people train dogs to be overly aggressive… 

[smew]

Pitt bulls are top of the top psychopaths of the dog world... chemical castration... i s the only solution for this breed  

[mania2301]

22 hours ago, brianthainess said:

Your wrong. there corrected.

What?? Can you rephrase your answer?? My english is a tiny bit weak....

[brianthainess]

13 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Agree, and they should never be left alone around children (although owners do and post pictures of look how cute my pittie is lying with my toddler). Irresponsible nutcases should not be allowed to be parents. Even a "normal" dog should not be left alone around small children - any dog can attack for any reason, but at least a sausage dog isn't going to do too much harm.

I have always had (small) dogs, but they were never ever left alone with my kids when they were babies.

 

 

That dog looks very content maybe just ate the twin.

[brianthainess]

22 hours ago, mania2301 said:

Correct me if I'm wrong....I thought pit bulls are banned in thailand.

 

You asked to be corrected so I corrected you. You are wrong they are not banned in Thailand

[Jing Joe]

Interesting...There are some similaraties between that singing dog (picture posted by brianthainess) and the Australian Mountain dingo which  along with the Desert Dingo that probably originally migrated from Asia.  I've seen many dogs resembling the latter in Thailand and both have singing/howling attributes.

[Jing Joe]

Interesting...There are some similaraties between that singing dog (picture posted by brianthainess) and the Australian Mountain dingo which  along with the Desert Dingo probably originally migrated from Asia.     I've seen many dogs incredibly resembling the latter in Thailand and both have singing/howling attributes and possibly are as described in the Aussie book:- "Dingoes Dont Bark".

For what its worth, "josephbloggs" picture of a P.B. sleeping in a hammock, that beautiful girls life is in danger just like so many children world wide who have been attacked/killed, either owned by or at random.

The whole story is a no brainer, and as for pathetically taking a dog to farewell its dead owner/victim, sambum and superal summed that up well.  As per the story about deadly Blue Ring Octopus being sold cooked in L.O.S. then where are the health inpectors? seems there is conjecture if Pit Bulls are or not allowed in L.O.S. then where are the animal inspectors and dog catchers?  Again one has to ask:- "How many more lives will it take" and Retayl said "There is no reason for these dogs to exist" and all the arguements and bitterness in these last 6 pages wont solve a thing.