Do you do immigration business yourself? If so why?

[youreavinalaff]

8 minutes ago, DudleySquat said:

Unless you don't have 800,000 in the bank for 2 or 3 months. 

There are other options to show.

[worgeordie]

Yes , I have always done it myself , and over the years it has

just gotten easier , no more getting up at 4 in the morning

to get ticket in queue , just book a time and roll up to IO ,

average time in last few years 1 -1.5 hours , the money I

save is best spent on a dinner out than pay some agent..

 

regards worgeordie  

[youreavinalaff]

2 minutes ago, DudleySquat said:

I keep telling you, that they are police. They are no different than the lazy ones who sit in a police station. They have the exact same powers.

Incorrect.

[Liverpool Lou]

36 minutes ago, DudleySquat said:

 

There were days I couldn't contact anyone.  It was <deleted> by people who had no business in this business. 

 

The point of giving these louts money, is to be free from all the bull <deleted>. It was nothing of the sort. 

So (despite your whinging about something that you speculate could have happened but didn't) you got your passport back complete with extension and no real issues.  Those "louts who had no business being in that business" got you your extension by being in that business that you think they shouldn't be in!  

[DudleySquat]

6 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

So (despite your whinging about something that you speculate could have happened but didn't) you got your passport back complete with extension and no real issues.  Those "louts who had no business being in that business" got you your extension by being in that business that you think they shouldn't be in!  

I'm putting you on ignore. 

 

Better. You have nothing to add.

[it is what it is]

 

lived and worked in many countries, traveled to over 60 countries, have never needed anyone to help me with visas.

 

visa processes for thailand are relatively straight forward, there is a lot of information/advice out there, IOs are, in my experience, generally professional, polite, helpful.

 

i have found sorting my visas here easy, possibly it helps to have common sense and to legally comply with all relevant criteria.

 

it really is not that difficult.

[DudleySquat]

10 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

Incorrect.

How so. 

 

Details please.

[Mike Lister]

16 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Yes I do complain about corruption in Thailand and yes I do support corruption occasionally. What can I say, if I was a saint the Catholic Church would be looking to canonize me. 

 

If you were looking for perfection in a human being you're looking on the wrong planet. 

This is not about human perfection or imperfection, this is about courage of conviction versus hypocrisy. We don't mind that you are imperfect and we admire you for admitting you are that. But that imperfection doesn't give you license to argue one side of the coin on most days whilst randomly supporting the other on days of your choosing!

[youreavinalaff]

4 minutes ago, DudleySquat said:

How so. 

 

Details please.

Isn't it obvious?

 

Here's a couple; immigration cannot arrest you or charge you for speeding, assult, murder........

 

Police cannot deport you, issue a fine for overstay or not doing a 90 day report. 

 

The government departments also differ.

Edited December 27, 2023 by youreavinalaff

[Stocky]

3 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Lucky you ... as mine is 100 kms / ~1.5 hrs away ... 

It was happenstance, we bought the house because it was convenient for local schools. Never had much dealings with immigration whilst I was working, multi entry non-O's worked fine. It was only with Covid that I switched to annual extensions and realised how conveniently close we were to the immigration office.

[DudleySquat]

1 minute ago, youreavinalaff said:

Isn't it obvious?

 

Here's a couple; immigration cannot arrest you or charge you for speeding, assult, murder........

 

Police cannot deport you, issue a fine for overstay or not doing a 90 day report. 

 

The government departments also differ.

No, it isn't apparent. Immigration police made the newspapers by going out and doing their criminal investigations about things that weren't Immigration related. They can do it all. Maybe they have more powers than the local police. 

[spidermike007]

5 minutes ago, Mike Lister said:

This is not about human perfection or imperfection, this is about courage of conviction versus hypocrisy. We don't mind that you are imperfect and we admire you for admitting you are that. But that imperfection doesn't give you license to argue one side of the coin on most days whilst randomly supporting the other on days of your choosing!

Well you make a good point, and I really don't have a valid argument other than to say that I will add hypocrisy to my list of character flaws! 

[Morch]

4 hours ago, Sheryl said:

 

And they likely would not accept it. I have found that the agents who deal with farang expats and those who deal with migrant workers are completely different and one will not handle the other.

 

 

 

Assumed as much, but never checked. Sounds reasonable, different crowds, different visas.

[Ralf001]

5 hours ago, likerdup1 said:

 

do you do your immigration business yourself?

 

Nah, employees at work are paid to do menial tasks.

[youreavinalaff]

11 minutes ago, DudleySquat said:

No, it isn't apparent. Immigration police made the newspapers by going out and doing their criminal investigations about things that weren't Immigration related. They can do it all. Maybe they have more powers than the local police. 

Show a link please. 

[BigStar]

1 hour ago, TaoNow said:

I was wondering:  Does speaking Thai with the Immo officer make any difference? 

 

They speak English and are maybe a little gratified when they do so successfully. I doubt it makes any difference, but your Thai should be quite polite and up to the task. Really, the papers are the issue.

 

I give a quick, polite Sawadee Krub, smile, and a respectful little wai. I figure, can't hurt and may be a start on the right foot anyway. Personally, I sympathize with what they must put up with daily. I can say that with me, at least, the IOs are always polite and professional. My papers are always in perfect order, however, neatly typed. I'm normally a messy person but not in this case.

Edited December 27, 2023 by BigStar

[DudleySquat]

8 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

Show a link please. 

 

No. I could, but I will not. You claimed their powers, so you prove it. You can Google it as quickly as I can.

[DudleySquat]

6 minutes ago, BigStar said:

I sympathize with what they must put up with daily.

 

They should get other jobs if they are not up to the task. They decided to become immigration police. I have no sympathy for them. 

[youreavinalaff]

4 minutes ago, DudleySquat said:

 

No. I could, but I will not. You claimed their powers, so you prove it. You can Google it as quickly as I can.

555. Funny.

 

No link. No story. You made it up. 

[Chris Daley]

I have teams of people handling my visa.  The girlfriend + the entire visa department at the school.  They f it up every single time.

[stoner]

wife.

[BigStar]

15 minutes ago, DudleySquat said:

 

They should get other jobs if they are not up to the task. They decided to become immigration police. I have no sympathy for them. 

 

Typical response here, nothing new. Nor does anyone care what you think. 'Course, now, you decided to come to Thailand, so they shouldn't have any sympathy for you, either, or make anything easier for you. Make an idiot mistake, too bad for you. 

 

But the idiots and the abuse they have to put up with really shouldn't be part of the job. Some of the idiots I've seen should have been escorted right out of the office, and if they resisted, then detained and deported. We farang should just obey the rules and treat the IOs respectfully as well. Things would go a lot smoother, I think.

Edited December 27, 2023 by BigStar

[youreavinalaff]

2 minutes ago, Chris Daley said:

I have teams of people handling my visa.  The girlfriend + the entire visa department at the school.  They f it up every single time.

Do it yourself then.

[stoner]

1 minute ago, BigStar said:

obey the rules and treat the IOs respectfully as well.

what if the IO flagrantly breaks the rules multiple times. i find it hard to respect then. 

 

[Mike Lister]

2 minutes ago, stoner said:

what if the IO flagrantly breaks the rules multiple times. i find it hard to respect then. 

 

Say peace brother, and here's a doobie for later.

Edited December 27, 2023 by Mike Lister

[stoner]

Just now, Mike Lister said:

Say peace brother, and here's a doobie for later.

 

ya right. then he will be calling me every other day for a hook up. and on credit too. 

[DudleySquat]

8 minutes ago, stoner said:

what if the IO flagrantly breaks the rules multiple times. i find it hard to respect then. 

 

 

Many of them are detestable scum. I agree with you. 

[VocalNeal]

11 minutes ago, stoner said:

what if the IO flagrantly breaks the rules multiple times.

 

How do you know they break the rules, what rules? They are bureaucrats doing a job.🤔 Simple as...

[stoner]

8 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

 

How do you know they break the rules, what rules? They are bureaucrats doing a job.🤔 Simple as...

 

oh glad you asked.

 

example 1 - during the height of covid when mask wearing was mandatory there was one young peacock officer strutting around our immigration office maskless. multiple times. 

 

example 2 - this one is great. the same peacock parked his car literally at the bottom of the wheelchair ramp. as i was sitting outside i turned to my wife and said i bet you anything it is the same a hole. sure enough a few minutes later he came out of the building. opened his car grabbed something shut the door and went back inside. 

 

those sort of rules. 

[youreavinalaff]

5 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

oh glad you asked.

 

example 1 - during the height of covid when mask wearing was mandatory there was one young peacock officer strutting around our immigration office maskless. multiple times. 

 

example 2 - this one is great. the same peacock parked his car literally at the bottom of the wheelchair ramp. as i was sitting outside i turned to my wife and said i bet you anything it is the same a hole. sure enough a few minutes later he came out of the building. opened his car grabbed something shut the door and went back inside. 

 

those sort of rules. 

I believe the conversation is regarding immigration/visa/extension rules.