youreavinalaff Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) 5 hours ago, Liquorice said: Immigration would require evidence of 12 x 65K THB monthly overseas transfers, so he would need 800K THB doing it himself. He could and does however meet the income requirement to obtain the Non Imm O visa from a Thai Embassy/Consulate in the US to enter Thailand. Then use an agent for the first annual extension. I know. I was pointing out he doesn't need both, as he was suggesting in his post. Edited January 5 by youreavinalaff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charleskerins Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 14 hours ago, ME100 said: Hi All, First off I apologize for not being able to use this site properly. I MAY understand more how to know! Anyway, I know I need an Agent to help me get my first Non-O Thai retirement visa. I only have the income required (3K, Social Security) and I do not have 800,000 baht additional. So, can a good agent, who is utterly reliable, to get this done for me under these conditions? I would like to live in Bangkok or Pattaya but - if required, I can live anywhere in the country the agent needs. I am 81 years old, from the USA, and not currently in Thailand. I'm looking for trusted referrals for an agent who people have used and are very happy with please. Thanks for all your help! i sent you a message I did it last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post youreavinalaff Posted January 5 Popular Post Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, Lemsta69 said: AFAIK, most of the cost of opening the back account goes towards the Bangkok Bank insurance policy. I paid ฿3,700 two years ago because I'm in the lower age bracket, and that covered the insurance policy plus an opening deposit of ฿521. So you're actually getting "something" for your money and not just lining the agent's pocket. If they get anything it's not much. The OP could, of course, try to open a Bangkok Bank account on his own but that involves a lot of walking around and waiting in bank branches to likely be told "cannot". Yes, I know you know this but just reiterating it for the OP's benefit 😁 I have never paid to open a bank account. Only requirement has been the 100 baht for ATM. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzzz Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 14 hours ago, ME100 said: Hi All, First off I apologize for not being able to use this site properly. I MAY understand more how to know! Anyway, I know I need an Agent to help me get my first Non-O Thai retirement visa. I only have the income required (3K, Social Security) and I do not have 800,000 baht additional. So, can a good agent, who is utterly reliable, to get this done for me under these conditions? I would like to live in Bangkok or Pattaya but - if required, I can live anywhere in the country the agent needs. I am 81 years old, from the USA, and not currently in Thailand. I'm looking for trusted referrals for an agent who people have used and are very happy with please. Thanks for all your help! 1st 90 day visa needs show 800,000 in bank, income not accepted first year You NEED BE IN THAILAND Thai visa centre if u dont have the baht 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemsta69 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 50 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: I have never paid to open a bank account. Only requirement has been the 100 baht for ATM. Have you not been reading all the threads about how it has become considerably more difficult to open bank accounts since about a year ago, especially if you arrive on a Tourist Visa or Visa Exempt entry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 minute ago, Lemsta69 said: Have you not been reading all the threads about how it has become considerably more difficult to open bank accounts since about a year ago, especially if you arrive on a Tourist Visa or Visa Exempt entry? I have, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemsta69 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 minute ago, youreavinalaff said: I have, yes. So why are you implying that it will be easy for the OP to open a bank account? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post charleskerins Posted January 5 Popular Post Share Posted January 5 4 hours ago, proton said: Then he does not qualify to be here on a retirement extension and should stay at home, no doubt no medical insurance either. At 81 he would just become a burden on other people for medical costs, or another go fund me. Needs to start acting responsibly, it's not too late! What are you his master? 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingstonkid Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 8 hours ago, ME100 said: Guys, Thank You Thank You for these great referrals and urls to visit! Just what I needed. I am happy to pay a good Agent who can successfully handle everything for me. I will follow up on these promptly. All the Best to you in 2024! I would not do anything from outside of Thailand. As suggested best us get a 3 month visa. Land on the ground sort out where you want to live then find an agent. @DrJack54 Did something change I didn't think you need the 800 for the initial request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lemsta69 Posted January 5 Popular Post Share Posted January 5 16 hours ago, ME100 said: I would like to live in Bangkok or Pattaya but - if required, I can live anywhere in the country the agent needs. You can live anywhere you like however there are a few niggling drawbacks if you live in a different province to where the visa/extension is issued. Eg. 90-day reporting usually requires you to take or mail your passport to the agent's office and pay a service fee. Obtaining a Certificate of Residence could be difficult too, if not impossible. Also bear in mind that if you want to move away from using the agent in Year 2 then you may run into issues. In one case I know of, the chap had to leave the country without a re-entry permit to kill off the agent-assisted extension and apply for a new non-O in a neighbouring country. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 6 minutes ago, Lemsta69 said: In one case I know of, the chap had to leave the country without a re-entry permit to kill off the agent-assisted extension and apply for a new non-O in a neighbouring country. That is correct. He would require a new non O. As you know the financials are checked retrospectively. Believe after killing off the existing non O he could also reenter visa exempt and obtain the non O with 800k in bank. All bit irrelevant as he doesn't have the dosh and at 81 thinking agent is good option given his age. I for one will certainly be using agent if I make mid 70,s 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post proton Posted January 5 Popular Post Share Posted January 5 11 minutes ago, Lemsta69 said: You can live anywhere you like however there are a few niggling drawbacks if you live in a different province to where the visa/extension is issued. Eg. 90-day reporting usually requires you to take or mail your passport to the agent's office and pay a service fee. Obtaining a Certificate of Residence could be difficult too, if not impossible. Also bear in mind that if you want to move away from using the agent in Year 2 then you may run into issues. In one case I know of, the chap had to leave the country without a re-entry permit to kill off the agent-assisted extension and apply for a new non-O in a neighbouring country. Extensions issued from another province via bribery is common, but clearly illegal and you get stuck with an agent 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemsta69 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 15 minutes ago, proton said: Extensions issued from another province via bribery is common, but clearly illegal and you get stuck with an agent Presumably you're saying this for the OP's benefit because I don't give a rat's 🤣🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Sounds to me as though you should reconsider your desire to live in Thailand. Given the situation you describe you will be fringe legal, and will face ongoing hassle here. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 10 minutes ago, Thingamabob said: Given the situation you describe you will be fringe legal, and will face ongoing hassle here. What ongoing hassle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surasak Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 6 hours ago, proton said: Then he does not qualify to be here on a retirement extension and should stay at home, no doubt no medical insurance either. At 81 he would just become a burden on other people for medical costs, or another go fund me. Needs to start acting responsibly, it's not too late! Nothing like a half empty glass! I can imagine you being a bundle of laughs at your local? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 23 minutes ago, Surasak said: Nothing like a half empty glass! I can imagine you being a bundle of laughs at your local? Was @protonwrong in what he said? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrJack54 Posted January 5 Popular Post Share Posted January 5 25 minutes ago, hotandsticky said: Was @protonwrong in what he said? 100% wrong. The OP asked a simple question. Think at age of 81 he has the right to make a call on what he wants, which appears to be use agent for non O and subsequent extensions and live in Thailand. Folk standing on a dias preaching, provide poor advice. 1 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 4 hours ago, Lemsta69 said: So why are you implying that it will be easy for the OP to open a bank account? I said "I've never paid to open a bank account". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 3 hours ago, DrJack54 said: 100% wrong. The OP asked a simple question. Think at age of 81 he has the right to make a call on what he wants, which appears to be use agent for non O and subsequent extensions and live in Thailand. Folk standing on a dias preaching, provide poor advice. what is wrong is stating an extension via an agent from a province you do not live in via bribery is illegal?. Preaching has nothing to do with it, it's the law. Extensions via bribery should not be encouraged on here. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mark1066 Posted January 5 Popular Post Share Posted January 5 6 minutes ago, proton said: what is wrong is stating an extension via an agent from a province you do not live in via bribery is illegal?. Preaching has nothing to do with it, it's the law. Extensions via bribery should not be encouraged on here. Why don't you find another hobby, you nasty little toad? I can't imagine how empty your life must be that you have to get your jollies trolling retirement visa threads on here. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CanadaSam Posted January 5 Popular Post Share Posted January 5 11 hours ago, proton said: Then he does not qualify to be here on a retirement extension and should stay at home, You, Sir, are an idiot. The guy is 80+ years, not a pauper, just looking for help. Stay at home? Advice which is neither appreciated, nor wanted. 1 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) 25 minutes ago, CanadaSam said: You, Sir, are an idiot. The guy is 80+ years, not a pauper, just looking for help. Stay at home? Advice which is neither appreciated, nor wanted. If he has the means he can fill a simple form without having to depend on a leeching agent involved in corruption, if he does not he should indeed stay at home. He asked for advice, thats mine. If he needs his hand held just to get an extension he will not be able to cope with all the other problems here he will come up against, you can't get an agent for everyday life and at 81 he will find it tough going here. Edited January 5 by proton 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Mark1066 said: Why don't you find another hobby, you nasty little toad? I can't imagine how empty your life must be that you have to get your jollies trolling retirement visa threads on here. Ah, no argument so a personal attack, if you have nothing to say on the subject why resort to name calling? Do use use an agent? Edited January 5 by proton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celsius Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 6 hours ago, DrJack54 said: What ongoing hassle. One ongoing hassle would be relying on agents to take care of your visa needs. Giving government property willingly to complete strangers may revoke your passport priviledges especially if the passport gets "lost". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemsta69 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 4 hours ago, youreavinalaff said: I said "I've never paid to open a bank account". Which implies that it's easy to open a bank account without the use of an agent. If the OP follows you're advice hell probably end up in the hospital after schlepping all around Pattaya or Bangkok looking for a bank that he doesn't have to "pay" to get them to open an account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 11 minutes ago, Lemsta69 said: Which implies that it's easy to open a bank account without the use of an agent. If the OP follows you're advice hell probably end up in the hospital after schlepping all around Pattaya or Bangkok looking for a bank that he doesn't have to "pay" to get them to open an account. I didn't give advice. I said " I've never paid to open a bank account". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 2 hours ago, proton said: If he has the means he can fill a simple form without having to depend on a leeching agent involved in corruption, if he does not he should indeed stay at home. He asked for advice, thats mine. If he needs his hand held just to get an extension he will not be able to cope with all the other problems here he will come up against, you can't get an agent for everyday life and at 81 he will find it tough going here. Some good points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemsta69 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, youreavinalaff said: I didn't give advice. I said " I've never paid to open a bank account". Time waster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, Lemsta69 said: Time waster. Actually, no. I've opened 5 bank accounts in my time in Thailand. The longest time it took was about 45 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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