There are one or two Uber woke members not here yet, either still sleeping off last night's intake or currently enjoying happy hour. I am pretty confident a lynch mob will soon assemble, and anybody who does not hate trump with a vengeance, or does not say so in strong enough terms will be targeted,  Let's wait and see

I would mention some user names but its probably against forum rules, and anyway I'm sure we all know those who I'm referring to

3 minutes ago, riclag said:

Me thinks you described,Trump Derangement Syndrome .

Well I'm not American and don't follow this as closely as maybe I should, its nice to know there is a name for the condition,  I believe one of the worst infected on here comes from Australia but he certainly does not let that hold him back in his outspoken hatred.

            On a slightly different level one thing I personally found disgusting were the protests that were allowed to take place in the UK prior to one of his presidential visits, with the usual woke suspects even displaying grotesque caricatures of him in the form of  orange balloons painted to resemble him. why such a total lack of respect was allowed Is beyond belief.  Furthermore the uber woke BBC virtually rolled their eyes and tut tutted after every mention of his name 

             Now the woke are otherwise occupied publicly demonstrating in support of Hamas   unbelievable and makes me ashamed to be British

The American should understand, in politics, they are the laugh of the world. Trump and Biden should be or on the golf course or in the elderly care home. Better look for some younger talent that can run the country on a proper way. Then also these completely boring threads about those two will end.

1 minute ago, peter zwart said:

The American should understand, in politics, they are the laugh of the world. Trump and Biden should be or on the golf course or in the elderly care home. Better look for some younger talent that can run the country on a proper way. Then also these completely boring threads about those two will end.

Yeah, things are going really great...where is it you said you come from? 

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

I am fascinated by people who are so gullible they actually believe the Trump indictments are something other than political. 

I am fascinated by mentalities so twisted they believe the Trump indictments are not about exposing national secrets to all and sundry, defrauding banks, and inciting insurrection.

Claiming 91 indictments are ALL political is a bridge too far for anyone capable of rational thought.

 

 

5 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I am fascinated by mentalities so twisted they believe the Trump indictments are not about exposing national secrets to all and sundry, defrauding banks, and inciting insurrection.

Claiming 91 indictments are ALL political is a bridge too far for anyone capable of rational thought.

 

 

What national secrets were exposed? Nice that Biden and Clinton both got a pass. 

How was the bank defrauded? Overstating the value of the property? Every real estate appraiser in the business does this. 

No one has been convicted of insurrection. TI think it hilarious that you guy call a bunch of unarmed people run running around the Capital an insurrection, but call months or rioting, looting, burning and killing a "protest". 

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

 

 

No one has been convicted of insurrection. 

 

 

 

The proud boys beg to differ.

 

Sedition, insurrection, what’s the diff?
 

And: In Col. evidence was put before a judge, to which Trump was free to respond. The judge ruled insurrection.

32 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

What national secrets were exposed? Nice that Biden and Clinton both got a pass. 

 

Biden may not get a pass.  They're looking into the boxes of documents behind the corvette.  In the garage his drug addled son, who was on the payroll of several unfriendly nations, had access to.

 

1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

There are one or two Uber woke members not here yet, either still sleeping off last night's intake or currently enjoying happy hour. I am pretty confident a lynch mob will soon assemble, and anybody who does not hate trump with a vengeance, or does not say so in strong enough terms will be targeted,  Let's wait and see

 

2 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Biden may not get a pass.  They're looking into the boxes of documents behind the corvette.  In the garage his drug addled son, who was on the payroll of several unfriendly nations, had access to.

 

You live in cheapskate paradise. You can finally have some kind of sex with an agreeable, thin woman. Finally.

 

Why so glum, Chum?

On 1/15/2024 at 5:50 PM, BigStar said:

Business model. Trump topics get posted often to inflame the countless feminine members, usually hailing from nanny states, suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrom. Guaranteed to generate lots of pages (and so, page views) filled with ignorant assertions repeated from legacy media. There is no cure, fortunately for the model. Trump is one of those gifts that keep on giving.

 

 

 

 

You tend to be fairly logical in your discussion of other topics such as sport and diet. I am not sure if you are a Trump supporter, or simply think opposition to him is overwrought, but it might be interesting to see if you think he is an appropriate and sensible option for president.

 

In terms of derangement, despite the odd meme such as that which you have posted, the Democrats of course focused and fought the good fight and Biden is president. Such a long road ahead for Trump to get back what he lost but still can't admit he lost. 

That Republicans want him was possibly forgivable in 2016, but to think he is a morally appropriate or a capable candidate in 2024, is hard to comprehend. But if you have a different opinion happy to hear the same logic you use to discuss diet etc. 

17 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

You tend to be fairly logical in your discussion of other topics such as sport and diet. I am not sure if you are a Trump supporter, or simply think opposition to him is overwrought, but it might be interesting to see if you think he is an appropriate and sensible option for president.

 

In terms derangement, despite the odd meme such as that which you have posted, the Democrats of course focused and fought the good fight and Biden is president. Such a long road ahead for Trump to get back what he lost but still can't admit he lost. 

That Republicans want him was possibly forgivable in 2016, but to think he is a morally appropriate or a capable candidate in 2024, is hard to comprehend. But if you have a different opinion happy to hear the same logic you use to discuss diet etc. 

The dems are out-raising the Republicans 2 to 1. Even the Koch Brothers don’t want to toss their money down that futile well. 

 

They’d actually prefer to take it out to a field called Nikki Haley and burn it. Has Nikki Haley ruined Nikki-dom forever? Does she owe Nikki Sixx an apology?

 

And he’s only going to get more crazy. How long will Trumptrash want pay millions for his sexual assault defamation claims? Other than forever? But those are dollars not available for campaigning.

 

Luckily, he’s a magic billionaire who can fund his own campaign out of pocket without breaking a sweat.

 

Just like he claimed last time. And then immediately reneged on.

He's a GOD ... All Hail ... 

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

What national secrets were exposed? Nice that Biden and Clinton both got a pass. 

How was the bank defrauded? Overstating the value of the property? Every real estate appraiser in the business does this. 

No one has been convicted of insurrection. TI think it hilarious that you guy call a bunch of unarmed people run running around the Capital an insurrection, but call months or rioting, looting, burning and killing a "protest". 

 

 

 

Largely, this particular mindset stems from the very basic tool of manipulated propaganda - repeated long, often and loud enough....all becomes real and true. Most are suckered into it without critical, questioning or challenging thought - as it's much more of a comfort thing to go along/get along with the designed agenda of the oligarchs. 

3 minutes ago, zzaa09 said:

Largely, this particular mindset stems from the very basic tool of manipulated propaganda - repeated long, often and loud enough....all becomes real and true. Most are suckered into it without critical, questioning or challenging thought - as it's much more of a comfort thing to go along/get along with the designed agenda of the oligarchs. 

 

It seems, these days, that the USA is existing in a bubble.

 

3 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

What national secrets were exposed? Nice that Biden and Clinton both got a pass. 

How was the bank defrauded? Overstating the value of the property? Every real estate appraiser in the business does this. 

No one has been convicted of insurrection. TI think it hilarious that you guy call a bunch of unarmed people run running around the Capital an insurrection, but call months or rioting, looting, burning and killing a "protest". 

What national secrets? How about the details of US nuclear submarines' tactical capabilities that he leaked to an Australian businessman, Anthony Pratt?

 

Trump bragged to an Australian businessman about a highly secret detail regarding US submarines

 

As for people not being convicted of "insurrection" that's just a question of semantics.

 

What hundreds of them have been convicted of is "seditious conspiracy" which is the legal term used to charge those engaging in an insurrection.

 

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Ahead of the three-year anniversary of the deadly Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol, about 1,000 rioters have either pleaded guilty or been convicted of crimes ranging from felonies such as seditious conspiracy and assaulting police officers to misdemeanors such as trespassing. 

 

3 years after Capitol riot, almost 1,000 convictions

It’s comical to read Trumptrash  here parroting straight up  Kremlin disinformation about wack stuff like cultural marxists somehow impinging on their manly freedom.

 

2 free Guinness pints to any piece of trash here who has met a self admitted cultural Marxist.

 

I actually have. My ex stepson teaches Marxism at a high end college in England. For the Chinese students paying absurd foreign student rates to keep the lights on, it’s an easy A.
 

Other than that, my life is as untouched by cultural Marxism as the average Maga genius who’s quaffing aquarium solvents to beat Covid.

 

1 hour ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

It seems, these days, that the USA is existing in a bubble.

 

Just like you seem to do!

On 1/15/2024 at 1:12 AM, Gaccha said:

 

For midwit liberals, he is everything they despise about the lower classes such as the blunt racism and sexism. To them democracy means a polite sensible bureaucrat on the throne who changes nothing. Any threat to that to them is anti-democracy.

 

 

As one of those "midwit liberals", albeit old school liberal before the left developed its own overly vocal fringe, what I despise about trump is that 1) he is willfully ignorant and 100% self-centered, and 2) he says exactly what he is going to do. I take his idiocy and fascism seriously.

 

I knew full well he never intended to leave office when he was soundly beaten. He stated his intent all too clearly before he actually went about trying to overthrow the government. Only idiots, which is to say his supporters and cult, thought his intent in calling his goobers to DC on 6 January (It'll be WILD! was his Tweet) and his speech that told them to march to the Capitol, "fight like hell or you'll never get your country back", and his sitting idle on his fat a$$ while his goobers went about trying to find and hang the VP and kill the Speaker, was anything but his evil chidl's attempt to stay in power and not be a "loser".

 

As I wrote in another post, and which I know both from published media and grand jury testimony, as well as from friends who were in meetings with trump, the guy actually had the Dept of Defense draw up plans to attack Iran before the Nov 2020 election, in the hope it would help him in the polls. After Biden defeated him, he actually tabled the idea of nuking China, believing he could then declare a State of Emergency and remain in power. He and his disgraced former NatSec Adviser Flynn discussed a plan to have the military seize voting machines and then have trump invoke the ancient (by US standards) Insurrection Act and put troops in the street to quash protests is people took exception to trump declar5ing the vote a fraud.

 

See, some of us who served our country and who took an oath to the Constitution have this quaint notion that the oath means something and that anyone who tries to overthrow or subvert the country and the system that has served the US well for 250 years is a threat. trump is that threat, far more of a threat than the jihadis in the tribal regions of Pakistan and Afghanistan that the agency or JSOC is given authority to eradicate.

1 hour ago, Prubangboy said:

It’s comical to read Trumptrash  here parroting straight up  Kremlin disinformation about wack stuff like cultural marxists somehow impinging on their manly freedom.

 

2 free Guinness pints to any piece of trash here who has met a self admitted cultural Marxist.

 

I actually have. My ex stepson teaches Marxism at a high end college in England. For the Chinese students paying absurd foreign student rates to keep the lights on, it’s an easy A.
 

Other than that, my life is as untouched by cultural Marxism as the average Maga genius who’s quaffing aquarium solvents to beat Covid.

 

magas tend toward weakness and failure in life, but they are incapable of accepting responsibility for what their life is. So many of them fear women, as their 'manliness' is threatened when women enter the marketplace and show far superior skills and ability to earn money. Like any autocrat wannabe, trump tells these losers what they want to hear. He gives them 'others' to blame. They also live vicariously through his nouveau riche garish lifestyle.

 

It's hardly any wonder that trump owns the Incels, QAnon believers, racists, misogynists, Tikitorch marchers, the poorly educated, Conspiracy Theorists, and so many who have been obviated by technological advancement getting in the way of their mediocrity and the lack of skills and talents they bring to the workplace.

 

His cult know full well in the back of their minds they are losers, but along came trump who performs their retribution against the "cool kids" from school and people who are successful in life.

So much of his message is that someone is laughing at or disrespecting his followers. Other than me, that’s largely untrue.

 

It’s like the trans worriers here. These are privileged people with no real discernible problems who are determined to go out with blood hounds and find an imaginary grudge to clutch to their nutty bosoms.

 

I recall Tucker citing Mexican check cashing places as proof that America was being overrun.

 

For Normies, Mexicans cashing checks is hardly a hill to die on.

 

For a Sun-reading oiky Brit here, it’s a completely unfathomable problem that they feel the odd need to claim as their own.
 

Some people just can’t stop being professional pretend victims. Their perma outrage is a kind of narcotic. This derangement syndrome charge cuts both ways.
 

The venn diagram between fleeced by Noi in Pattaya and gaga Trump love is probably close to a perfect circle.

2 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

Just like you seem to do!

 

And to think, after all these years, I have still not completely shaken off my American roots....!

Boggles the mind, actually.

 

Well a lot of the forum members are US citizens - and naturally Trump will very much be on their minds.

Just now, herfiehandbag said:

Well a lot of the forum members are US citizens - and naturally Trump will very much be on their minds.

 

Being a US citizen does not necessarily mean that Trump is on one's mind, or even a welcome topic of discussion.T
This is the reason for the question posed in my Topic, of course.

 

 

Actually European educated people are more interested in Donald Trump than US educated people.
WHY?
Trump has no use for NATO, nor defending anyones borders, exept US borders. The end of NATO would open the doors for Putin for future military adventurism.

- Without the US, Europe has not the military capabilities to self defend.

This is why Europeans are more concerned about the US November elections than than the US voters.

2 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

Well a lot of the forum members are US citizens - and naturally Trump will very much be on their minds.

I think most members are Brits & Aussies.  I don't recall ever really talking about politics  when in the USA, with family and friends, or now.  I'd like to say never, but who knows, might have had a conversation I forgot about.  I've never asked someone who they voted for, and don't recall someone ever asking me.

 

If not for the forum, I'd never give a thought about politics.  Entertaining as all hell, listening to non Yanks yakking away about it.

 

It'd be like me talking about Euro soccer, and y'all be laughing your butts off about my ignorance 

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

It'd be like me talking about Euro soccer, and y'all be laughing your butts off about my ignorance 

 

No.

It'd be like talking about The Canterbury Tales, on TV, is what you should have said.

 

 

4 hours ago, KhunLA said:

I think most members are Brits & Aussies.  I don't recall ever really talking about politics  when in the USA, with family and friends, or now.  I'd like to say never, but who knows, might have had a conversation I forgot about.  I've never asked someone who they voted for, and don't recall someone ever asking me.

 

If not for the forum, I'd never give a thought about politics.  Entertaining as all hell, listening to non Yanks yakking away about it.

 

It'd be like me talking about Euro soccer, and y'all be laughing your butts off about my ignorance 

If interested in Euro women's soccer, or whatever, why not comment. You can learn stuff and get feedback and be less ignorant.

I don't think being a local, now or 20 years ago, gives one an intrinsic or important insight, that others cannot have on a particular topic, in this modern technological age. Sometimes, a posters outsider status can help them to identify interesting discussion points e.g. they can see that the Emperor has no clothes. 

Though it can be boring and I rarely comment - the topic of American politics is more potentially impactful to many expats - than whether there was an accident in Chiang Mai or an Englishman and a Russian had a fight in a bar in Pattaya - topics that get 100's of the same ol' boring comments. 

I think political discussion adds to this site if only as a contrast to the normal topics such as ladies of the night or the availability of marmite. 

 

17 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

What national secrets were exposed? Nice that Biden and Clinton both got a pass. 

How was the bank defrauded? Overstating the value of the property? Every real estate appraiser in the business does this. 

No one has been convicted of insurrection. TI think it hilarious that you guy call a bunch of unarmed people run running around the Capital an insurrection, but call months or rioting, looting, burning and killing a "protest". 

Congratulations, you have used multiple logical fallacies in your response and perfectly mimicked Trump in the art of 'Logical Fallacy' to appeal to the base.

 

More critical thinkers and certainly the courts use reasoning and logic and to these audiences I suggest your arguments fail as being legitimate and valid.

 

Briefly on analysis, you have used the ‘Tu Quoque’, ‘Hasty Generalization’ and ‘False Equivalence' fallacies.

I could go into more depth and explain these and where you have gone astray but would you really be interested?

7 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

No.

It'd be like talking about The Canterbury Tales, on TV, is what you should have said.

I'm more of a Caesar, Cassius, Mark Anthony kind of a guy.  Depths of imagined power & Senate conflict.  Thieves in the night & conspiracies.

 

Pre industrial English folks come off as too uppity for me.   If going to dissect the social perception of common, real folks, I'll just watch "Stagecoach" or "12 Angry Men" for a good ol' baring of souls.