Arriving on new passport

[10years]

My renewal application for a US passport is currently in process. I will enter Thailand visa exempt at Swampy after I get it. It will be completely blank.

 

When I get to the IO at Thai immigration, how will he link the new passport to the old one? Do I need to show the expired passport along with the new one?

 

Before I left Thailand, I managed to get the overstay stamp printed my old passport for arriving one day earlier than planned. Will the IO adorn my brand new passport with that dreaded stamp?

 

I already purchased my air ticket online. I had to input my passport number and expiration date in the personal details section. Since I don't know the new number and expiration date, I put in my old number and made the expiration date for 2025. 

 

When I get the new passport, should I call the airline or just update the information when I check in online?

[Lite Beer]

Enter the country with both passports.

Pop along toy your local Immigration with both passports.

[Upnotover]

I wouldn't worry for 1 second about immigration.  It's not your concern if or how they "link" your new passport to your old one.  And they won't transfer the overstay stamp to the new one either.  Your bigger issue may be the airline, might be a good idea to call them when your new passport appears, or maybe their website will allow you to update the information.

[DFPhuket]

Since you're visa exempt, you should only need to show your new passport and the biometrics/name/birthdate should match the two.

 

I would carry your old cancelled passport with you just in case there is a question. 

[jimn]

16 hours ago, Lite Beer said:

Enter the country with both passports.

Pop along toy your local Immigration with both passports.

You are assuming that he has a visa or extension in his old passport. No mention of that. He just needs to show his new passport and to let the airline know his new passport details. Simple.

[OJAS]

1 hour ago, jimn said:

let the airline know his new passport details

 

Not just letting them know his new passport details, I think. Since he plans to enter Thailand with a 30-day visa exemption he needs to check with them specifically whether or not he will be permitted to board his return flight in the absence of a confirmed onward flight reservation out of Thailand within the following 30 days. IMHO he would be strongly advised to purchase a cheap throwaway ticket for an Air Asia flight within this period to a destination in an adjoining Asean country in any event.

Edited January 20 by OJAS

[sandyf]

19 hours ago, 10years said:

When I get the new passport, should I call the airline or just update the information when I check in online?

You should be able to amend the passenger details for your booking online. You just go the airline website and look for find  bookings,  usually all that is asked for is the flt ref number and last name.

I came back on new passport a few weeks ago, just handed over the new passport at the airport, stamped in no questions asked.

[Thalueng]

If you have a valid extension of stay with reentry permit in your old passport:

1. Bring your expired (old) passport and show both to the immigration officer in the airport

2. visit your local immigration office to transfer your extension of stay from old to new passport 

3. You will have entered the country on your extension, not visa exempt 

 

If you do not have a valid extension of stay and enter on visa exempt no need to bring and show the old passport. 

 

In both cases you must update your valid passport number with your airline, either online or at checkin.

[FritsSikkink]

"overstay stamp printed my old passport for arriving one day earlier than planned"

Sounds like a lot of nonsense.

[Maestro]

20 hours ago, 10years said:

My renewal application for a US passport is currently in process. I will enter Thailand visa exempt at Swampy after I get it. It will be completely blank.

 

When I get to the IO at Thai immigration, how will he link the new passport to the old one? Do I need to show the expired passport along with the new one?

 

Immigration wants to see only your new passport.

[Maestro]

20 hours ago, 10years said:

Before I left Thailand, I managed to get the overstay stamp printed my old passport for arriving one day earlier than planned. Will the IO adorn my brand new passport with that dreaded stamp?

 

The overstay stamp will not copied to your new passport.

[brianthainess]

21 hours ago, 10years said:

When I get to the IO at Thai immigration, how will he link the new passport to the old one? Do I need to show the expired passport along with the new one?

Your old one will be on their database, but IMO no need to show it, but I would carry it with you. in case they ask. Don't bring up the subject yourself.

[10years]

Thanks everyone for your replies. To clarify some points:

 

I already purchased a 30-day roundtrip air ticket using the old passport number.

 

I don't have an extension of stay with a reentry permit. I will try to enter visa exempt.

 

Apparently the passport agency in the US sends you only the new passport first. It returns the old passport and any supporting documents at a later date. Does anyone know how long for the old passport to follow the new one? The old passport might not make it on time for my departure.

 

BTW, i asked my congressman to help me get a two-year extension on my old passport because I paid for 10 years but got only 8 years of use out of it due to the pandemic. But now the law doesn't allow any extensions. I couldn't get a discount on my new passport either. 

 

This isn't as far-fetched as it sounds since my hotels and airlines, with the exception of AirAsia and Scoot, automatically extended the expiration dates of my membership cards and air mileage.

 

And the US passport agency was frustratingly slow in renewing passports, causing travelers much grief. It should have given everyone an extra year or two.

[DrJack54]

39 minutes ago, 10years said:

BTW, i asked my congressman to help me get a two-year extension on my old passport because I paid for 10 years but got only 8 years of use out of it due to the pandemic. But now the law doesn't allow any extensions. I couldn't get a discount on my new passport either. 

Ridiculous that you expect that. 

[NicoBKK]

Inform the Airline when you will get new number - you might have to pay a fee for change of data. 

IO will know about your overstay in the past but will not stamp it again on new passport, all should be ok upon arrival.

 

[jimn]

On 1/20/2024 at 2:23 PM, OJAS said:

 

Not just letting them know his new passport details, I think. Since he plans to enter Thailand with a 30-day visa exemption he needs to check with them specifically whether or not he will be permitted to board his return flight in the absence of a confirmed onward flight reservation out of Thailand within the following 30 days. IMHO he would be strongly advised to purchase a cheap throwaway ticket for an Air Asia flight within this period to a destination in an adjoining Asean country in any event.

Yes agree that as well. I was specifically addressing the OP's question.

[10years]

Update:

 

Bottom line:

Jan 02: mailed passport renewal application.

Jan 29: "received new passport".

 

Details:

1/2: mailed padded envelope by regular priority mail at post office, taking advantage of USPS's Label Broker service. Create a label, take the qr

[10years]

Update:

 

Bottom line:

Jan 02: mailed passport renewal application.

Jan 29: "received" new passport. Less than 4 weeks.

 

Details:

1/2: mail padded envelope by regular priority mail at post office, taking advantage of USPS's Label Broker service. Create a label, take the QR code to the post office, they print the gummy label for free and stick it on your package. Include the $130 check for 52 pages. 

1/5 Bureau of Consular Affairs' Philadelphia office receives my envelope. BCA is often accused of being slow, but they were very prompt in cashing my check.

1/8 receive email stating: Application Status: In Process
The U.S. Department of State has received your application for your passport book on 01/08/2024. We're now reviewing your application and supporting documents.

1/26 8:09 am receive email stating: Application Status: Approved
The U.S. Department of State approved your application for your passport book. We're now printing your passport book and preparing to give it to you.

1/26 2:05 pm receive email stating: Application Status: Shipped
The U.S. Department of State has shipped your passport book on 01/26/2024.
We sent your passport book to you using Priority Mail. Input tracking number into USPS' website and it shows that it has received the new passport.

1/26 4:06 pm receive email stating: Application Status: In Process
The U.S. Department of State has received your application for your passport book on 01/08/2024. We're now reviewing your application and supporting documents.

Note that the last three emails all received on the same day.

1/30 receive new passport in my mailbox. It was out for delivery on 1/29 but never made it.

1/31 old passport sent by first-class mail.

2/5 old passport received.

[zzzzz]

2 minutes ago, 10years said:

Update:

 

Bottom line:

Jan 02: mailed passport renewal application.

Jan 29: "received" new passport. Less than 4 weeks.

 

Details:

1/2: mail padded envelope by regular priority mail at post office, taking advantage of USPS's Label Broker service. Create a label, take the QR code to the post office, they print the gummy label for free and stick it on your package. Include the $130 check for 52 pages. 

1/5 Bureau of Consular Affairs' Philadelphia office receives my envelope. BCA is often accused of being slow, but they were very prompt in cashing my check.

1/8 receive email stating: Application Status: In Process
The U.S. Department of State has received your application for your passport book on 01/08/2024. We're now reviewing your application and supporting documents.

1/26 8:09 am receive email stating: Application Status: Approved
The U.S. Department of State approved your application for your passport book. We're now printing your passport book and preparing to give it to you.

1/26 2:05 pm receive email stating: Application Status: Shipped
The U.S. Department of State has shipped your passport book on 01/26/2024.
We sent your passport book to you using Priority Mail. Input tracking number into USPS' website and it shows that it has received the new passport.

1/26 4:06 pm receive email stating: Application Status: In Process
The U.S. Department of State has received your application for your passport book on 01/08/2024. We're now reviewing your application and supporting documents.

Note that the last three emails all received on the same day.

1/30 receive new passport in my mailbox. It was out for delivery on 1/29 but never made it.

1/31 old passport sent by first-class mail.

2/5 old passport received.

i assume u paid for expedient service?
have heard stories of 2-3 months in the states for new passport>
Plus over here in Nov, i got both passports back same time

Edited February 7 by zzzzz

[10years]

On 2/6/2024 at 7:34 PM, zzzzz said:

i assume u paid for expedient service?
have heard stories of 2-3 months in the states for new passport>
Plus over here in Nov, i got both passports back same time

As I said, I paid $130, which is regular service. In my case, that was for less than a month. But I did send the package by regular priority mail. It also came back by regular priority mai.

[10years]

I forgot to add that my new passport was marked as issued on January 25.

And the name of the agency is the National Passport Office.