Court clears Pita of iTV shares charges

[Bobydog]

12 hours ago, Purdey said:

Young Thais want Pita to succeed but admittedly, it is still touch and go.

And of course, other Countries around the world are not watching this third world stage show.

[SABloke]

Cleared of this, which shows the court to be neutral . This sets it up nicely for a party dissolution next week which then surely wouldn't be political because the court is "neutral". 

[Bangkok Barry]

13 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

Nine-panel vote was 8:1.

 

A potential one-week comeback.

 

I hope he survives the verdict on January 31, Charter Court, where he is accused of violating Article 49 of the Constitution by seeking to overthrow the monarchy through his election campaign to amend the lese majesty law or Article 112 of the Criminal Code.

 

 

Probably, as his plan wasn't to overthrow. Nothing close. Maybe they need to look up 'amend' in a dictionary.

[nikmar]

3 hours ago, flyingtlger said:

 

 

 

[Bangkok Barry]

So after he was banned, helped by unelected senators, from being PM due to a trumped up charge, the real courts declare him innocent after all. Too late though, isn't it. Those with the real power got rid of him until the next time. Add to that the fake accusation of him wanting to abolish the monarchy. What a wonderful country Thailand is. You get the government a few powerful people say you will, like Russia or China or North Korea.

[CANSIAM]

Bet all the old military Goons in the senate are nervous....

[hotchilli]

14 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The Court ruled that iTV is no longer a media business; therefore, Pita’s holding of shares in iTV did not violate the Constitution and the electoral law.

But it robbed him and his party of becoming the rightful PM and future government.

Thai elite won the day by screwing the public of who they voted for.

[hotchilli]

13 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

Nine-panel vote was 8:1.

 

A potential one-week comeback.

 

I hope he survives the verdict on January 31, Charter Court, where he is accused of violating Article 49 of the Constitution by seeking to overthrow the monarchy through his election campaign to amend the lese majesty law or Article 112 of the Criminal Code.

 

That was another joke... he said he wanted to "amend" the lese majeste law... not overthrow the monarchy.

[Skeptic7]

4 hours ago, flyingtlger said:

Couldn't be 2 more opposite people using this gesture. One is a lying moron and a dangerous, self-absorbed, delusional 🦇💩 cray-cray, dangerous freak...

 

...and the other is a brilliant, highly educated and eloquent Thai. 

[jippytum]

He should be prime minister.  He was conned by the  Thaksin supporters who made a pact with thr devil to bring thaksin back and avoid jail. Pita and justice will win eventually. You can't fool all the people all the time. 

[bamnutsak]

55 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

Probably, as his plan wasn't to overthrow. Nothing close. Maybe they need to look up 'amend' in a dictionary.

 

Article 49

 

No person shall exercise the rights or liberties to overthrow the democratic regime of government with the King as Head of State.    Any person who has knowledge of an act under paragraph one shall have the right to petition to the Attorney-General to submit a motion to the Constitutional Court for an order to cease such act.   

 

In the case where the Attorney-General orders a refusal to proceed as petitioned or fails to proceed within fifteen days as from the date of receiving the petition, the person making the petition may submit the petition directly to the Constitutional Court.    The action under this section shall not prejudice the criminal prosecution against the person committing an act under paragraph one. 

 

 

 

You don't have to convince me that political discussions about amending the Constitution, or Criminal Code, should be considered illegal.

 

That said, staunch Nationalists and Royalists feel that allowing ANY discussions about the Monarchy needs to be dealt with extreme prejudice

[mikebell]

14 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The Constitutional Court ruled that iTV can no longer be classified as a media business, since it ceased operations as a media company in 2007.

 

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Constitutional Court judges confirmed that there had been no delay to the court ruling.

I make that a 17 year delay; designed to achieve another bloodless military coup by the army at the expense of democracy.

[mikebell]

17 minutes ago, jippytum said:

You can't fool all the people all the time.

You don't need to fool them; 200 baht cash in hand or a 10,000 baht promise will do the trick.

[flyingtlger]

37 minutes ago, Skeptic7 said:

...and the other is a brilliant, highly educated and eloquent Thai. 

I didn't know Trump spoke Thai

[brianthainess]

14 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

Never going to happen, the military, Thaksin, and he who cannot be named have made it impossible.

Agree two of those want to keep robing the country, and its not Tony.

[bannork]

1 hour ago, Bobydog said:

And of course, other Countries around the world are not watching this third world stage show.

"Thailand: Reformist leader Pita overcomes first court hurdle - BBC News" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-68078182

[TroubleandGrumpy]

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

“I remain a prime ministerial candidate, in accordance with the constitution. So, if anything happens, I am always ready, willing and able to lead this country forward,”

Stretta days are numbered - past May 2024.   Now we know why PT and BJ want to amend the charter/constitution, but leave the Senators in place.  Without the Senators, Pita will become the next PM. The Thai economy is tanking lower than most 'experts' predicted and it aint looking like bouncing back anytime soon. Interesting year in Thai politics ahead. 

[Thingamabob]

A welcome result, but a long way to go given the judgement to be made at the end of this month regarding Pita's alleged abuse of the lese majeste law.

[brianthainess]

14 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

 

Says it all: Defeated the Conservative party Supporting the Royalists Military, blocked by Unelected law makers, the Military had appointed, the current PM made a deal with the military.......

The Military still control Thailand, democracy in Thailand is a very long way off. 

[proton]

13 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

A welcome result, but a long way to go given the judgement to be made at the end of this month regarding Pita's alleged abuse of the lese majeste law.

 

Considering 112 has just convicted a man to 50 years in prison a change in this law would be seen as reasonable by most people, and not 'abuse'.

[brianthainess]

2 hours ago, Bobydog said:

And of course, other Countries around the world are not watching this third world stage show.

And yet there it is on a German TV news station.

[spidermike007]

Anything, absolutely anything that can be done to limit the power of the army, and the toxic and corrupt senators they appointed, is a good thing for the nation. The dinosaurs must be made extinct. And the youth must be allowed representation or control. Total control, if possible. They are the only ones who can move this nation forward, and stop the heinous and regressive  army.

 

The most important part of this equation was only 42 seats for Prawit and 37 for Cha Cha. It was a huge repudiation for the status quo. The people said no, I don't think so, you guys are dinosaurs, we don't want you, we don't like you you need to disappear off the face of the earth. 

 

His election was a truly great thing for this nation and shows that the people are both sick of being led by highly ignorant relics, with no interest in progress, and interested in smart, young folks, who are serious, accomplished, capable of change, and interested in insuring that Thailand has a good future. Pita is exactly what this nation needs, at this point in time. 

 

This is a man who interrupted his studies at MIT, during an MBA program at Sloan to rescue his father's rice bran oil business, Agrifood, after this fathers death. He was successful, and is paying down the 100 million baht his father borrowed to start the company. This is a serious man. Very unlike the failures before him. He then went back and finished his MBA, at one of the top business schools on the planet. 

 

If it hadn't been the shares it would have been something else, they simply wanted him out of the way, he was too clean, too progressive, too forward leaning, too intelligent, and too capable of moving the nation forward away from the morass of corruption and moral rot, so the shares were just an excuse.

[newbee2022]

... let's the battle begin...

Good luck, Pita🙏

[gaucan]

15 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

Never going to happen, the military, Thaksin, and he who cannot be named have made it impossible.

Why are u afraid to say his name? its Lord O-demort

[Derek B]

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

 

The Constitutional Court has cleared the former leader of the Move Forward party, Pita Limjaroenrat, of the charge that he contested in last year’s election while holding shares in a media company.

 

The Court ruled that iTV is no longer a media business; therefore, Pita’s holding of shares in iTV did not violate the Constitution and the electoral law.

 

This means that Pita will retain his MP seat and the ruling paves the way for him to make a political comeback after he was suspended from performing his legislative duties since last July.

 

Full story: Thai PBS 2024-01-24

 

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To have a future in Thai polics and not to let his voters down again he needs to be squeaky clean from the get go. He needs better advisors around him.

[Jackbenimble]

15 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

Nine-panel vote was 8:1.

 

A potential one-week comeback.

 

I hope he survives the verdict on January 31, Charter Court, where he is accused of violating Article 49 of the Constitution by seeking to overthrow the monarchy through his election campaign to amend the lese majesty law or Article 112 of the Criminal Code.

 

Me too. This is just another trumped up charge - article 49 was deliberately used by the outgoing "party" to stay in power when everyone wanted them to hold an open and fair election. They not only overstayed their welcome but seized power illegally in the first instance riding into town on an anti-corruption ticket only be more corrupt than every former government before them. I think anyone using Article 49 in this instance - especially after the way it was misappropriated by the former government - has not read the room . 

Edited January 25 by Jackbenimble

[brianthainess]

10 hours ago, Gknrd said:

Throwing him a bone to quiet the other democratic countries. Doesn't matter. Thailand will never be democratic again.

Maybe when someone kicks the bucket, and there is freedom of speech.

[mfd101]

14 hours ago, retarius said:

Honestly we need to grow up a bit. My guess is that Pita is like every other politician...a self serving liar....yes he's new and fresh like Thaksin was in 2000 or whenever. Young people don't know that power corrupts everybody and as soon as Pita gets power he will do a 180. It is the law of people and politics.

Well, it would at least be nice to be able to find out!

[paddypower]

10 hours ago, smedly said:

2 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Good, I was worried ne might get  sentenced to 6 months in a luxury hospital.

the side benefit would be that the Dept. of Correction would have to call him MISTER.

 

5 hours ago, flyingtlger said:

 

[newnative]

Yaa!  He's got my vote . . . if I could vote.  Hey, 'No taxation without representation' just popped into my head.