THE BODY of a young Ukrainian man was found mysteriously hanged with his hands tied behind his back at a remote durian orchard on Koh Samui last evening, Amarin TV said this morning (Jan. 25).

 

Pol. Col. Denduang Thongsrisuk, superintendent of Bo Phut police station, and his team together with forensic officers, a doctor from Koh Samui Hospital and rescuers, went up the steep Tha Sok mountain on four-wheel-drive vehicles to the spot at the durian orchard where the foreign tourist’s body was found hanging from a branch of a tree.

 

He was wearing a pair of shorts and no shirt but a red T-shirt covered half his face. Cable ties had been used to tie his hands behind his back and a red chair had fallen beneath him.

 

His decomposed body was taken to Koh Samui Hospital for autopsy and it was estimated that he had been dead for four to five days.

 

by TNR Staff 

TOP: Rescuers taking the body of the dead Ukrainian man to the hospital for autopsy. Photo: Amarin TV

 

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Couldn't stay, couldn't face going home to Ukraine, went to nirvana instead? 

14 minutes ago, JeffersLos said:

Couldn't stay, couldn't face going home to Ukraine, went to nirvana instead? 

Alternately the description of how he was found would suggest murder?

9 minutes ago, Dmaxdan said:

Alternately the description of how he was found would suggest murder?

 

No.

 

Stand on stool, setup the noose, secure hands behind back, then kickpush the stool away. Standard. 

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Cable ties had been used to tie his hands behind his back

 

59 minutes ago, stoner said:

he tied his own hands behind his back

 

You seem to think that is somewhat difficult. 3 cable ties and about 3 seconds.

 

What is your IQ? 

Probably suicide, case closed... RTP don't like to their job and investigate properly as we have seen many times already..

So they found them with his hands, tied with wires behind his back a shirt over his head and it red chair kicked out. I would be checking for any Russians in the area. Those Russians are pretty tricky. They could’ve made it look like a suicide I still can’t figure out how one would actually tie their hands behind their back then put a rope or noose around their neck, and they kick the chair out, then again TIT

1 hour ago, JeffersLos said:

 

 

You seem to think that is somewhat difficult. 3 cable ties and about 3 seconds.

 

What is your IQ? 

Probably MUCH higher than yours! 

3 hours ago, JeffersLos said:

Couldn't stay, couldn't face going home to Ukraine, went to nirvana instead? 

Yeah, he lost his war already🙏

10 minutes ago, TheFishman1 said:

So they found them with his hands, tied with wires behind his back a shirt over his head and it red chair kicked out. I would be checking for any Russians in the area. Those Russians are pretty tricky. They could’ve made it look like a suicide I still can’t figure out how one would actually tie their hands behind their back then put a rope or noose around their neck, and they kick the chair out, then again TIT

 

Reverse the sequence - stand on red chair, put red t-shirt over head, secure noose around neck, secure hands at the back with cable tie (this could be a bit of a challenge but if the lead is long enough, it's still doable), kick away chair and snap!

 

Not suggesting this is what happened, just saying it is possible. It could be a suicide, or murder made to look like a suicide.

RIP

3 hours ago, JeffersLos said:

Couldn't stay, couldn't face going home to Ukraine, went to nirvana instead? 

The link says he's lived in Thailand for many years, and was now suffering form depression.. maybe suicide.

2 hours ago, JeffersLos said:

 

 

You seem to think that is somewhat difficult. 3 cable ties and about 3 seconds.

 

What is your IQ? 

and why would one do that? a friend of mine, a farmer in Germany, hung himself in his barn, hands by his side.

it'll be those pesky Burmese again - obviously! Cant turn your back for a minute and they're at it. ;-)

4 hours ago, JeffersLos said:

Couldn't stay, couldn't face going home to Ukraine, went to nirvana instead? 

Yeah, off course. You chose:

1. First he hanged himself, and after tied his hands behind his back.
2. First he tied his hands behind his back, and after took a rope and hanged himself.

Maybe, you realize, neither of the above really works. 

4 hours ago, JeffersLos said:

Couldn't stay, couldn't face going home to Ukraine, went to nirvana instead? 

More like expat russkies

3 hours ago, stoner said:

and the award for dumbest comment on AN ever goes to the above. clearly he had nirvana in mind when he tied his own hands behind his back then proceeded to hang himself.

 

of course to achieve nirvana one often walks out into a remote durian orchid....to become one with the universe and all. 

Ditto’s 

Well said

Very easy to place cable ties already looped over hands behind back, he would only need to feel for the ends to tighten. That said, even the Thai experts should be able to rule out suicide or murder.

 

RIP young man. 

RIP.  

 

Having wrestled with the visa choices in my late 40's as the ability to stay long-term became harder, I'm always a little surprised when you read of situations where young people have managed somehow to achieve that, in this unfortunate guy's case presumably for some time since his 20's.

47 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

and why would one do that? a friend of mine, a farmer in Germany, hung himself in his barn, hands by his side.

 

They often do it, so that they cannot change their mind. If they do it without bind their hands together behind their back before kicking the stool away, the natural instinct is of course to struggle to pull themselves up etc.

 

32 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Yeah, off course. You chose:

1. First he hanged himself, and after tied his hands behind his back.
2. First he tied his hands behind his back, and after took a rope and hanged himself.

Maybe, you realize, neither of the above really works. 

 

Cable ties.

 

One around each wrist. then hands behind the back and slip another one through both and pull. It would probably take about 3 seconds for anybody to do it. 

 

 

For frigs sake - this tragic post with a young human being dead, finished has degenerated into a discussion regarding the friggin cable ties.

Get a dam grip here. 

5 minutes ago, harleyclarkey said:

For frigs sake - this tragic post with a young human being dead, finished has degenerated into a discussion regarding the friggin cable ties.

Get a dam grip here. 

Exactly some right <deleted>in weirdos on here.

4 hours ago, stoner said:

the award for dumbest comment on AN ever goes to the above

Nope, I've seen many dumber comments. 

 

 

4 hours ago, JeffersLos said:

 

No.

 

Stand on stool, setup the noose, secure hands behind back, then kickpush the stool away. Standard. 

Could you give us a personal demonstration...

5 hours ago, JeffersLos said:

Couldn't stay, couldn't face going home to Ukraine, went to nirvana instead? 

 

Can't you read or comprehend?

He was murdered, execution style.

I've only ever heard someone hanging themselves with there hands tied in Thailand, why would you tie your hands behind your back before hanging? Or is it just in case you change your mind or do you automatically try to pull yourself up (grabbing rope) etc.

24 minutes ago, sallecc said:

 

Can't you read or comprehend?

He was murdered, execution style.

 

Why are you lying?

 

Why are you making up stories about the report? 

1 hour ago, harleyclarkey said:

For frigs sake - this tragic post with a young human being dead, finished has degenerated into a discussion regarding the friggin cable ties.

Get a dam grip here. 

 

Yes, he's dead and his suffering is over. Did you know or care about him when he was alive?  Why the sudden concern now, when it's of no use to anyone? 

 

Would you prefer 8 pages of idiots writing "RIP", as if the dead guy is reading these comments ?  

"Additionally the autopsy result is awaited to determine the cause of death but it is still uncertain whether he was hanged or hanged himself, they said." (Quote from article.)

Probably difficult to hang oneself with hands tied on the back with cable ties; even if one suffers from depression and is a long time habitant on the island.

 

The are a number of Ukrainians living/staying on Samui, some have been here since before the Covid-pandemic.

RIP, sad end to a young life.

 

Too little information in the article to make any judgement about suicide or not. Leave in to the forensic team to produce the evidence and reach a conclusion.

 

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/courts/sd-me-zahau-knots-20180326-story.html

 

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1556-4029.14567 (Full report behind paywall, but abstract shows how cause conclusion may be determined).