Protesters claim ‘Zionists control media’ and call for ‘intifada’ on London march

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Yes it is. It calls for political violence. That's terrorism by definition. 

 

Stop it. Is supporting Ukraine's war against Russia also terrorism? Is calling for attacks against Houthis also terrorism?

 

They aren't calling for political violence, they are calling for actual violence in the form of war. Let's not forget who declared this to be a war. Now when people want to defend themselves against a declaration of war you cry foul.

 

 

[Wobblybob]

They are a cult and really haven't a clue what they are protesting about, they are in this cult because their friends from university Hugo and Bunty are in it and they need something to protest about. They chant their warcry "from the river to the sea" but when asked what river and what sea they literally don't know. 

They carry the terrorists flag with them and the woke police are just too dim and scared to arrest them, but you show up with our Union flag and you'll soon be arrested, two tier policing at it's best. Jews are having to close schools in fear of these idiots, and walking the street is not a good idea if you are a Jew, the local lynch mob will be out on patrol looking for these people whose only crime is being born Jewish.

God help the Jewish population, one holocaust is enough!

[Bkk Brian]

Maybe these pro Palestinian protestors should be calling out Hamas and telling them to release the hostages as instructed by the ICJ. 

 

Another smaller rally held did the right thing.

 

‘Rape is not resistance’: London rally calls for release of women held by Hamas

Banners saying “Rape is not resistance” were waved at the rally, and some protesters wore sweatpants with stains between their legs.

The march was held near the offices of the BBC, which the organizers of the march feel has not done enough to cover alleged sexual violence during Hamas’s deadly rampage.

Reports of rape and sexual violence have multiplied since October 7, and at the start of December, Gilad Erdan, Israel’s ambassador to the United Nations, said Hamas used rape and sexual violence as a weapon of war.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/rape-is-not-resistance-london-rally-calls-for-release-of-women-held-by-hamas/

[beautifulthailand99]

I have marched a couple of times before I left for our 3 month stay here. There was a wonderful 1000 strong Jewish bloc with a wide range of British Jews and my old mucker Alexei Sayle. Shalom comrades solidarity with progressives. 

[Jeff the Chef]

48 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

They are a cult and really haven't a clue what they are protesting about, they are in this cult because their friends from university Hugo and Bunty are in it and they need something to protest about. They chant their warcry "from the river to the sea" but when asked what river and what sea they literally don't know. 

They carry the terrorists flag with them and the woke police are just too dim and scared to arrest them, but you show up with our Union flag and you'll soon be arrested, two tier policing at it's best. Jews are having to close schools in fear of these idiots, and walking the street is not a good idea if you are a Jew, the local lynch mob will be out on patrol looking for these people whose only crime is being born Jewish.

God help the Jewish population, one holocaust is enough!

 

It's called Freedom of Speech

[Morch]

3 hours ago, Neeranam said:

What is disgraceful about the demonstration, I missed that bit. 

Many one or two people didn't behave themselves, but that doesn't mean the whole thing was disgraceful. I applaud them for trying to stop this killing of thousands of innocent kids.

 

Read the OP.

Watch the pics and the signs.

 

That you don't find it disgraceful doesn't mean a whole lot.

 

 

[Morch]

3 hours ago, Neeranam said:

There's a big difference to being anti-Isreali policy and being antiJew. 

I think there are more non-Israeli Jews that Israeli ones. 

 

 

 

@Neeranam

 

Some can be anti-Israel, and anti-Jews.

Like you.

[Morch]

2 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

There are hundreds of thousands of Jews who do not accept the Zionist State of Israel. Why does the media never talk about them?

The State of Israel does not represent world Jewry!
https://twitter.com/i/status/1754423001158693078

 

Considering some of them are part of the current Israeli government, its kinda amusing.

[Morch]

2 hours ago, ozimoron said:

 

It was a peaceful demonstration. You might not like the message but you can't call them antisemitic because they support Palestinian causes. That's a bridge too far. Are some of them antisemitic? For sure but you want to paint everyone with a wide brush.

 

@ozimoron

 

What you cannot do is twist what people say.

 

They are not called antisemitic because they support the Palestinian cause.

 

They are called antisemitic when they spread antisemitic conspiracy theories and tropes.

Or when they call for the destruction of Israel.

 

Talk about 'wide brush'.

Pathetic.

[Morch]

1 hour ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Investigation by Haaretz reveals not only that the Israeli military is covertly running a racist, genocide-promoting social media account, 72 Virgins, but that the military lied when challenged about its involvement.

 

https://archive.ph/DqeYw

 

 

And how is this related to the topic?

[Wobblybob]

11 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

It's called Freedom of Speech

It's called hate speech!

[Bkk Brian]

46 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

I have marched a couple of times before I left for our 3 month stay here. There was a wonderful 1000 strong Jewish bloc with a wide range of British Jews and my old mucker Alexei Sayle. Shalom comrades solidarity with progressives. 

Have you got any Rabbi friends?

[Morch]

2 hours ago, ozimoron said:

 

I saw protests about genocide.

 

@ozimoron

 

As Mom used to say, 'you see what you want to see'. You do the same on any discussion of such protests. Blanket denials, or at best 'accepting' that a few were being naughty. That's in the face of facts and evidence.

 

When it comes to Israel, it's the other way around - all you can see is negative.

[Jeff the Chef]

3 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Considering some of them are part of the current Israeli government, its kinda amusing.

 

Good and bad all over the world, sadly.

[Morch]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

 

The protesters are alleging that it did and it's their right to do so regardless of whether others think it did or didn't. Calling for an intifada is not calling for terrorism. You have no evidence whatsoever that anyone in that crowd was calling for terrorism and they would have been arrested had they done so.

 

@ozimoron

 

More bizarre comments.

The Intifada involved a whole lot of cases of terrorism.

[Morch]

1 hour ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Nice deflection away from the point of the original post, which I have included above.

 

Considering your own post was a deflection, not sure what you're complaining about.

[uttradit]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

 

Stop it. Is supporting Ukraine's war against Russia also terrorism? Is calling for attacks against Houthis also terrorism?

 

They aren't calling for political violence, they are calling for actual violence in the form of war. Let's not forget who declared this to be a war. Now when people want to defend themselves against a declaration of war you cry foul.

 

 

You support terrorists. You should be ashamed.

[Morch]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

 

Stop it. Is supporting Ukraine's war against Russia also terrorism? Is calling for attacks against Houthis also terrorism?

 

They aren't calling for political violence, they are calling for actual violence in the form of war. Let's not forget who declared this to be a war. Now when people want to defend themselves against a declaration of war you cry foul.

 

 

 

 

@ozimoron

 

This has nothing to do with Ukraine. And you're intentionally muddying the water with the Houthies reference.

 

Essentially, what you did above is normalize the Hamas attack and Palestinian terrorism in general. Now 'deny' it.

 

You can spin things all you like, they were calling for violence.

[Morch]

20 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

It's called Freedom of Speech

 

There are limits to that too.

[Morch]

6 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Good and bad all over the world, sadly.

 

Meaningless comments from you all over these topics, sadly.

[proton]

9 hours ago, impulse said:

 

They don't seem to take issue with the vast populations of Jews in the world that don't live in Israel.

 

Anti Israeli policies doesn't mean anti-Semitic.  At least, it didn't used to...

 

 

 

Why all the threats and attacks on Jews in other countries then, London Jewish school kids have to hide their school badges for fear of attack

[Walker88]

Does anyone have any images or videos of when these people were in the streets protesting the starving children or the millions of Moslems killed in Yemen? How about in the Syrian Civil War?

 

I have no dog in this fight, but if I'm objective, it seems their concern for innocents being killed is rather selective, which makes me wonder if it's less about innocents being killed and more about being anti-Jew.

 

The Arabs have a saying: "Me against my brother; my brother and I against you".

[proton]

12 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Does anyone have any images or videos of when these people were in the streets protesting the starving children or the millions of Moslems killed in Yemen? How about in the Syrian Civil War?

 

I have no dog in this fight, but if I'm objective, it seems their concern for innocents being killed is rather selective, which makes me wonder if it's less about innocents being killed and more about being anti-Jew.

 

The Arabs have a saying: "Me against my brother; my brother and I against you".

 

 

Its all about Jew hatred thats why they could never accept the many offerers of a so called 2 state solution, they can never accept the existence if Israel. Over 98% of the middle east is muslim countries, but they want it all claiming Israel are colonisers, when Islam has in the past invaded and occupied most of those other lands.

[beautifulthailand99]

35 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Have you got any Rabbi friends?

No but I wouldn't mind if they could accept me. Here you are Jewish Voices for Labour and why Jews should have solidarity with the progressive moment and eschew Zionism. We stand on the shoulders of Marx,Trotsky,Rosa Luxemburg and the founder of the British 4th International Tony  Cliff. Momentum in the Labour Party was mostly founded by Jews Jon Lansman. Stop the War Colition,  again Jews play a big role on the steering committee. In the 1930s in Nazi Germany they had common cause against the Nazis and went to their deaths together. Zionism actually divides us not unites us. https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/

[Jingthing]

18 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Does anyone have any images or videos of when these people were in the streets protesting the starving children or the millions of Moslems killed in Yemen? How about in the Syrian Civil War?

 

I have no dog in this fight, but if I'm objective, it seems their concern for innocents being killed is rather selective, which makes me wonder if it's less about innocents being killed and more about being anti-Jew.

 

The Arabs have a saying: "Me against my brother; my brother and I against you".

Bingo. They care when Jews are involved. Otherwise crickets.

[retarius]

I have no time for Israeli policy if it kills innocent kids in their thousands. It is a vile and evil policy pursued by vile and evil men, indecent men, and it needs to change immediately. But Israel has put its middle finger up at the world so they can carry on murdering. No reasonable person would deny their right to kill Hamas terrorists, but moist reasonable people deplore this vile massacre of women and children. I will never forget that Israel did this. I will have no truck with indecent people who condone this massacre.

Hopefully some day karma will come to bite Israel in the ass and pay them back for this atrocity. Until that day I will continue to support the underdog, oppressed for decades by evil oppressors. 

Call me anti-Jew or anti-semitic, I don't care, it is Jews committing vile atrocities every day. I want them to he held accountable for these murders of innocents.

[riclag]

If I had to choose between 

Zionist vs Communist pro Palestine protesters.

I’ll take the descendants that defended Masada !

Imop

[OneMoreFarang]

It's sad that many protest only see the world from this side or the other side.

What is so difficult about condemning the Hamas strike on Israel and condemning the occupation by Israel and working to avoid dead people on both sides?

The situation won't get better when everybody is only blaming the others.

Try to find solutions which are good for everybody. I know it's difficult, but it's possible. And at least people on all sides should try.

[beautifulthailand99]

8 minutes ago, riclag said:

If I had to choose between 

Zionist vs Communist pro Palestine protesters.

I’ll take the descendants that defended Masada !

Imop

With the communist Jews on our side and leading on the strategy and execution of the battle you will lose.  Come out waving a white flag and I promise we won't shoot ( unlike the IDF ! ). I stand with Nornan Finkelstrin.

[beautifulthailand99]

1 hour ago, Morch said:

 

@ozimoron

 

More bizarre comments.

The Intifada involved a whole lot of cases of terrorism.

As did the Jewish war of independence. Do you condemn Haganah,Irgun and the Stern Gang ? Yes or No ?