Judge orders Trump and companies to pay nearly $355 million in civil fraud trial

[Chomper Higgot]

I feel Trump supporters are missing the core issue in this news item.

 

It’s not the $ magnitude of the Court’s ruling against Trump, rather how is he going to come up with the money to pay it.

 

Putting aside all political differences, I strongly recommend Trump supporters keep their own money on their own pockets and let Trump pay his own Court penalties.

 

He’s told you he is a Billionaire, in matters of what you do with your own hard earned cash, take him at his word on that claim.

 

You need your money more than he does, or at least that should be your starting position.

 

 

 

[uttradit]

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I feel Trump supporters are missing the core issue in this news item.

 

It’s not the $ magnitude of the Court’s ruling against Trump, rather how is he going to come up with the money to pay it.

 

Putting aside all political differences, I strongly recommend Trump supporters keep their own money on their own pockets and let Trump pay his own Court penalties.

 

He’s told you he is a Billionaire, in matters of what you do with your own hard earned cash, take him at his word on that claim.

 

You need your money more than he does, or at least that should be your starting position.

 

 

 

You think people on here give Trump money? That is hilarious.

[uttradit]

25 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

But, and this is the problem Republicans, Trump and his supporters have:

 

Biden is not doing Putin’s bidding.

Putin endorsed Biden. He wants Biden to win 2024. Weak opposition.

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, uttradit said:

Putin endorsed Biden. He wants Biden to win 2024. Weak opposition.

Putin stated he endorsed Biden, you believed him, then posted evidence of your gullibility online for the world to see…. And just to be sure, you did it twice

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, uttradit said:

You think people on here give Trump money? That is hilarious.

There are Trump supporters on here and there are Trump supporters who give him money.

 

I’m simply putting aside political differences and advising those who might be so inclined as to give Trump money not to do so.

 

Think of it as a friendly gesture across the lines of political disagreement.

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, uttradit said:

You think people on here give Trump money? That is hilarious.

Strange post after user riclag just told us he has donated 

[Roo Island]

4 hours ago, frank83628 said:

my comment was nothing to do with taxes whatsoever, the charges are being pushed politically. 

and the emails are highlighting the double standards. if they both broke the law for whatever reason then both face the consequences..but it doesn't seem to go that way does it.

 

The charges started before Biden was president and Trump started running for president.

 

The legal system is working ok. Unless you only read Faux News.

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, uttradit said:

You think people on here give Trump money? That is hilarious.

You are admitting that you have never donated to Trump?

 

Do you think that people who give Trump money are stupid?

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, uttradit said:

Putin endorsed Biden. He wants Biden to win 2024. Weak opposition.

So, you believe Putin?

[Roo Island]

3 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

You are admitting that you have never donated to Trump?

 

Do you think that people who give Trump money are stupid?

Yes. Not very smart. Giving money to a billionaire. Insane.

 

https://www.salon.com/2020/12/01/trump-bilks-170-million-from-supporters-to-fund-suitsbut-his-pac-pockets-most-of-the-cash-report/

 

Trump bilks $170 million from supporters to fund suits—but his PAC pockets most of the cash: report

 

Trump's "misleading" fundraising appeals draw allegations that his legal crusade is “plain and simple grift"

[Roo Island]

https://apnews.com/article/russia-putin-biden-trump-fb2fece0be7685624a3e3e379a8a3bd3

 

President Vladimir Putin said that Russia would prefer to see U.S. President Joe Biden win a second term, describing him as more experienced and predictable than Donald Trump — even though Moscow strongly disagrees with the current administration’s policies.

[Danderman123]

I still don't know how the State of NY will collect from Trump, or whether Trump needs to post a bond to appeal.

 

Also, were any Federal tax laws violated by Trump in the last 7 years that were revealed during this case?

Edited February 17 by Danderman123

[Roo Island]

2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

I still don't know how the State of NY will collect from Trump, or whether Trump needs to post a bond to appeal.

 

Also, were any Federal tax laws violated by Trump in the last 7 years?

The state will collect. One way or another. Trump either needs to put up the cash, or get very expensive bonds.

 

With so many lawsuits over the years, I'm sure a few had to do with federal tax laws.

 

His foundation and university were just a few of the many

[ujayujay]

13 hours ago, frank83628 said:

is that a Dem voting Judge by any chance?

Is here eventually a Trump Fanboy

[ujayujay]

18 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

I still don't know how the State of NY will collect from Trump, or whether Trump needs to post a bond to appeal.

 

Also, were any Federal tax laws violated by Trump in the last 7 years?

Apparently......

[Danderman123]

15 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

The state will collect. One way or another. Trump either needs to put up the cash, or get very expensive bonds.

Is that a hope, or a confirmed fact about this case?

[Lacessit]

18 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

The state will collect. One way or another. Trump either needs to put up the cash, or get very expensive bonds.

 

With so many lawsuits over the years, I'm sure a few had to do with federal tax laws.

 

His foundation and university were just a few of the many

Trump and his father avoided gift taxes for years with sham transactions.

IIRC, the NY Times called out the IRS for its failure to prosecute.

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Is that a hope, or a confirmed fact about this case?

If he wants to appeal, which we know he does then he's got just 30 days to put up the cash or bond

 

Mr. Trump will appeal the financial penalty but will have to either come up with the money or secure a bond within 30 days. 

https://archive.ph/lIKnr

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/16/nyregion/trump-civil-fraud-trial-ruling.html

[Lacessit]

4 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Is that a hope, or a confirmed fact about this case?

It's a fact. If Trump wants to appeal either the NY case or the E Jean Carroll case, he has to post cash or a bond equivalent to the amount of the judgment.

If he doesn't appeal, he has to pay. If he does not pay, the plaintiffs can get court orders to seize his assets, and sell them to satisfy the awards.

[Nick Carter icp]

12 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

It's a fact. If Trump wants to appeal either the NY case or the E Jean Carroll case, he has to post cash or a bond equivalent to the amount of the judgment.

If he doesn't appeal, he has to pay. If he does not pay, the plaintiffs can get court orders to seize his assets, and sell them to satisfy the awards.

 

   Can they send Trump to a prison camp in Siberia ?

Is Guantemo bay still open ?

[ozimoron]

57 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

https://apnews.com/article/russia-putin-biden-trump-fb2fece0be7685624a3e3e379a8a3bd3

 

President Vladimir Putin said that Russia would prefer to see U.S. President Joe Biden win a second term, describing him as more experienced and predictable than Donald Trump — even though Moscow strongly disagrees with the current administration’s policies.

 

Putin is of course going to say that. He needs Trump to win badly so his buddies in the MAGA cult retain control of the House and can always go on vacation instead of having to defend not giving weapons to Ukraine. Trump's biggest US public perception liability is his attachment to Putin. That alone is likely to cost him the election. The statement was a ply by Putin to attempt to transfer some his own stench to Biden and distance himself from Trump. If the Republicans lose control of the house then he really needs Trump to veto any allocation of money for Ukraine. Putin is as cunning as an outhouse rat.

 

But back on topic. I had not read anything on here about how Trump can't raise the money from any NY registered banks. That would be all the major banks inj the world including Deutsche Bank. He needs to get the money from either a Russian oligarch or MBS in exchange for Mar a Lago as collateral since he doesn't have a mortgage on it  Mar a Lago is valued by Trump at 4 times the most expensive private residence in the USA.

[G_Money]

4 hours ago, Lacessit said:

It certainly is not, and it is only going to get worse for Trump.

 

His only hope is to get re-elected. He will go to jail if he is not. The odds against him being acquitted in ALL criminal trials are insurmountable.

 

A campaign for the Presidency takes money, lots of it.

 

Trump has raided the RNC's campaign kitty and PAC's to pay his legal bills, $55 million and counting. He's got more appeals going than a butcher has pork chops, and all of the lawyers are billing him in advance for services. It would take a truly dumb or desperate lawyer to trust him to pay. They have Rudy Giuliani as an example.

 

The large donors have all walked away, they can see the writing on the wall, and where their money is going. The remaining small donor rubes are not enough, and are probably exhausted by his constant dunning.

 

I don't understand your mindset. I do understand it is only a matter of time.

 

 

Your crystal ball is murky as usual!

 

Are you the amazing Kreskin?

Edited February 17 by G_Money

[Tug]

12 hours ago, riclag said:

The way I see it, I have a responsibility to help preserve the Republic and the old ways, by throwing my support toward the cause.

Just sent another donation to help out the  next POTUS!

Just doin my part to combat the

Bolshevik's in New York. 
 

imop

 

 

 

 

I hope you made it an automatic grift…oops payment he he he a fool and his money……a sucker born every minute……oh boy better keep an eye on your account he’s been known to help himself he he he ……

[Tug]

6 hours ago, mikebike said:

Really. The GOP would have us believe it's all about lower taxes for the rich, performative border BeeEss, impeaching over policy, and protecting a criminal canditadte. 

You forgot a few like destroying the world order shivving your allies in the guts ruining our country’s reputation and voter suppression more guns ect ect oh and there latest abandonment of the brave heroic Ukrainian people 

[Danderman123]

5 hours ago, uttradit said:

You think people on here give Trump money? That is hilarious.

 

13 hours ago, riclag said:

The way I see it, I have a responsibility to help preserve the Republic and the old ways, by throwing my support toward the cause.

Just sent another donation to help out the  next POTUS!

Just doin my part to combat the

Bolshevik's in New York. 
 

Uttradit vying for the total of Wrongest poster.

[candide]

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

 

Uttradit vying for the total of Wrongest poster.

It's not nice from him to laugh at his MAGA pal Riclag! 🤣

Edited February 17 by candide

[HappyExpat57]

Pro tip:

Do NOT entrust the nuclear codes to a guy who can't operate a hot dog cart on 53rd and 3rd.

[Georgealbert]

10 hours ago, uttradit said:

You think people on here give Trump money? That is hilarious.

Do you have to try hard to come up with your ridiculous posts or does it come naturally?

 

Seems that facts and the truth just passes you by, is it nice in that alternative reality?

 

Edited February 17 by Georgealbert

[Lacessit]

10 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There are Trump supporters on here and there are Trump supporters who give him money.

 

I’m simply putting aside political differences and advising those who might be so inclined as to give Trump money not to do so.

 

Think of it as a friendly gesture across the lines of political disagreement.

First there were RINO's, Republicans In Name Only. Now there are the people who support him, but at least have the sense to not send him money. They are TINO's, Trumpers In Name Only.

[HappyExpat57]

5 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

First there were RINO's, Republicans In Name Only. Now there are the people who support him, but at least have the sense to not send him money. They are TINO's, Trumpers In Name Only.

I often wonder if some on this forum seemingly bending the knee to that fraudster are only here to stir up controversial bull pucky or are they really that gullible and/or stupid?